Le dialogue, jeudi 16 juin, entre le porte-parole de la Maison-Blanche Scott McClellan et le journaliste de ABC Terry Moran vaut d’\u00eatre lu. Il concerne l’affirmation \u00e9trange du vice-pr\u00e9sident Cheney selon laquelle la r\u00e9sistance irakienne est \u00e0 l’agonie, ou dans ses derniers affres (\u00ab in its last throes<\/em> \u00bb). Il montre que les journalistes am\u00e9ricains, \u00e9puis\u00e9s sans doute par d’harassantes ann\u00e9es de conformisme aveugle, commencent \u00e0 se comporter avec une certaine pusillanimit\u00e9 \u00e0 l’\u00e9gard des officiels am\u00e9ricains.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tQ (Terry Moran): Scott, is the insurgency in Iraq in its last throes?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tMR. McCLELLAN: Terry, you have a desperate group of terrorists in Iraq that are doing everything they can to try to derail the transition to democracy. The Iraqi people have made it clear that they want a free and democratic and peaceful future. And that’s why we’re doing everything we can, along with other countries, to support the Iraqi people as they move forward. The fact that they are making great progress on the political front is significant because that helps defeat the terrorists, because the terrorists don’t want to see democracy take hold. They don’t want lasting democratic institutions to be put in place. And that’s why we are standing with the Iraqi people as they move forward on the political front.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tWe’re also standing with the Iraqi people as they move forward on to address the security situation. We are working side by side with Iraqi forces now to defeat those terrorists and regime elements who want to derail the transition to democracy. And every day we move forward on democracy and training Iraqi security forces is every day closer that we are to succeeding in Iraq.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tQ: But the insurgency is in its last throes?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tMR. McCLELLAN: The Vice President talked about that the other day you have a desperate group of terrorists who recognize how high the stakes are in Iraq. A free Iraq will be a significant blow to their ambitions.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tQ: But they’re killing more Americans, they’re killing more Iraqis. That’s the last throes?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tMR. McCLELLAN: Innocent I say innocent civilians. And it doesn’t take a lot of people to cause mass damage when you’re willing to strap a bomb onto yourself, get in a car and go and attack innocent civilians. That’s the kind of people that we’re dealing with. That’s what I say when we’re talking about a determined enemy.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tQ: Right. What is the evidence that the insurgency is in its last throes?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tMR. McCLELLAN: I think I just explained to you the desperation of terrorists and their tactics.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tQ: What’s the evidence on the ground that it’s being extinguished?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tMR. McCLELLAN: Terry, we’re making great progress to defeat the terrorist and regime elements. You’re seeing Iraqis now playing more of a role in addressing the security threats that they face. They’re working side by side with our coalition forces. They’re working on their own. There are a lot of special forces in Iraq that are taking the battle to the enemy in Iraq. And so this is a period when they are in a desperate mode.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tQ: Well, I’m just wondering what the metric is for measuring the defeat of the insurgency.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tMR. McCLELLAN: Well, you can go back and look at the Vice President’s remarks. I think he talked about it.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tQ: Yes. Is there any idea how long a last throe lasts for?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n <\/p>\n \tMis en ligne le 20 juin 2005 \u00e0 16H35<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Le dialogue, jeudi 16 juin, entre le porte-parole de la Maison-Blanche Scott McClellan et le journaliste de ABC Terry Moran vaut d’\u00eatre lu. Il concerne l’affirmation \u00e9trange du vice-pr\u00e9sident Cheney selon laquelle la r\u00e9sistance irakienne est \u00e0 l’agonie, ou dans ses derniers affres (\u00ab in its last throes \u00bb). 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