{"id":66907,"date":"2005-10-09T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2005-10-09T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2005\/10\/09\/nom-de-dieu-mon-dieu-oui-ou-non-dieu-parle-t-il-a-george\/"},"modified":"2005-10-09T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2005-10-09T00:00:00","slug":"nom-de-dieu-mon-dieu-oui-ou-non-dieu-parle-t-il-a-george","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2005\/10\/09\/nom-de-dieu-mon-dieu-oui-ou-non-dieu-parle-t-il-a-george\/","title":{"rendered":"Nom de Dieu, mon Dieu, oui ou non Dieu parle-t-il \u00e0 George?!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Nul n&rsquo;en doute, les conversations entre Dieu et GW sont un sujet du plus grand int\u00e9r\u00eat pour l&rsquo;avenir du monde. Ira Chernus, professeur d&rsquo;\u00c9tudes Religieuses \u00e0 l&rsquo;universit\u00e9 du Colorado, donne, sur <a href=\"http:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/views05\/1008-29.htm\" class=\"gen\">le site CommonDreams.com<\/a>, un int\u00e9ressant article \u00e0 propos des d\u00e9m\u00eal\u00e9s avec la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=2046\" class=\"gen\">plus r\u00e9cent rapport<\/a> qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 fait de ces entretiens pr\u00e9sidentiels et divins. L&rsquo;on apprend par exemple, ou bien il nous est rappel\u00e9 que Chernus en avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 parl\u00e9 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.commondreams.org\/views03\/0630-04.htm\" class=\"gen\">le 30 juin 2003 sur le m\u00eame site<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe probl\u00e8me est que les t\u00e9moins palestiniens qui rapportent cette affaire sont aujourd&rsquo;hui \u00e0 nouveau en fonction, et \u00e0 des postes importants. (\u00c9videmment : il s&rsquo;agit de Mahmoud Abbas, leader de l&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 palestinien et d&rsquo;un de ses ministres, Nabil Shaath.) D&rsquo;o\u00f9 leur embarras car, Dieu ou pas Dieu, ils ont besoin de George. Ils ne doivent rien faire qui puisse rendre George ridicule. Le probl\u00e8me pourrait \u00eatre: est-il ridicule de converser directement avec Dieu ? C&rsquo;est une question bien de notre temps.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tManifestement, Chernus s&rsquo;amuse bien \u00e0 tenter de d\u00e9m\u00ealer l&rsquo;imbroglio de d\u00e9clarations embarrass\u00e9es, de d\u00e9mentis qui n&rsquo;en sont pas vraiment, de confirmations qui n&rsquo;en sont pas du tout, de ces confidences du pr\u00e9sident des Etats-Unis d&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique. M\u00eame \u00e0 la Maison-Blanche, on ne s&rsquo;y retrouve pas.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab <em>This week, the BBC announced that it will air a documentary about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In the documentary, another well-respected Palestinian political leader, Nabil Shaath, says that he was at the same meeting in Aqaba: President Bush said to all of us, I&rsquo;m driven with a mission from God. God would tell me: George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan. And I did, and then God would tell me, George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq and I did. And now, again, I feel God&rsquo;s words coming to me  go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East. And by God I&rsquo;m gonna do it.&rsquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb <em>Now, since the story was reported in a mainstream source, media around the world have reported it extensively. White House press briefer Scott McClellan dismissed it: That&rsquo;s absurd. He&rsquo;s never made such comments. But before McClellan issued his flat denial, the BBC called the White House to let them know the story would break. According to news reports, BBC did not get a denial. They got told that the White House wouldn&rsquo;t comment on a private conversation. Unfortunately the U.S. media seem to accept McClellan&rsquo;s denial at face value. They&rsquo;ve still pretty much ignored the story.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb <em>Journalists in other countries followed up by asking Shaath if it&rsquo;s really true. Yes, he confirmed. But he added that he, Abbas, and the others who heard it didn&rsquo;t take it literally: We felt he was saying that he had a mission, a commitment, his faith in God would inspire him &#8230; rather than a metaphysical whisper in his ear. (In &rsquo;03 the Washington Post had an Arabic speaker translate the transcript, and he read it as Bush saying God inspired me.)<\/em> \u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAlors, hein, vrai ou pas vrai ? Chuchotements et tremblements, ou bien conversation, ou bien monologue ou que sais-je,  et encore n&rsquo;a-t-on pas r\u00e9solu ceci: en quelle langue Dieu parle-t-il \u00e0 George ? Tout cela,  <em>si non \u00e8 vero, \u00e8 ben trovato<\/em>,  mais vous savez bien que c&rsquo;est bien assez beau pour \u00eatre vrai<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 9 octobre 2005 \u00e0 15H35<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nul n&rsquo;en doute, les conversations entre Dieu et GW sont un sujet du plus grand int\u00e9r\u00eat pour l&rsquo;avenir du monde. Ira Chernus, professeur d&rsquo;\u00c9tudes Religieuses \u00e0 l&rsquo;universit\u00e9 du Colorado, donne, sur le site CommonDreams.com, un int\u00e9ressant article \u00e0 propos des d\u00e9m\u00eal\u00e9s avec la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 du plus r\u00e9cent rapport qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 fait de ces entretiens&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-66907","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/66907","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=66907"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/66907\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=66907"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=66907"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=66907"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}