{"id":67053,"date":"2005-11-28T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2005-11-28T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2005\/11\/28\/quand-la-victoire-vous-met-en-deroute\/"},"modified":"2005-11-28T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2005-11-28T00:00:00","slug":"quand-la-victoire-vous-met-en-deroute","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2005\/11\/28\/quand-la-victoire-vous-met-en-deroute\/","title":{"rendered":"Quand la victoire vous met en d\u00e9route<\/em><\/strong>"},"content":{"rendered":"

Quand la victoire vous met en d\u00e9route<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n

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\t28 novembre 2005 Avant, quand tout allait mal, on disait \u00e0 Washington : Proclamons la victoire et partons. Aujourd’hui, \u00e0 Washington on fait mieux : Proclamons la victoire dans six mois et nous partirons vite fait. Conclusion \u00e0 ce point : les six prochains mois verront le plus formidable d\u00e9cha\u00eenement de virtualisme qu’on puisse imaginer.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tIl existe d\u00e9sormais un plan \u00e0 la Maison-Blanche pour se retirer d’Irak, en annon\u00e7ant par avance que cette d\u00e9route se fera sous la pression de la victoire. Tout l’establishment<\/em> est \u00e0 l’uvre pour sauver le b\u00e9b\u00e9 (la r\u00e9putation des USA) qu’on avait jet\u00e9 avec l’eau du bain, et \u00e9viter une d\u00e9faite strat\u00e9gique aux cons\u00e9quences incalculables. En premi\u00e8re ligne, les d\u00e9mocrates, qui ach\u00e8vent ainsi un parcours particuli\u00e8rement ignominieux entrepris depuis le 11 septembre 2001. En t\u00eate des architectes de la d\u00e9faite maquill\u00e9e en victoire : le s\u00e9nateur Biden. Les insurg\u00e9s sont \u00e9galement invit\u00e9s \u00e0 cautionner le plan de d\u00e9route-victoire des Etats-Unis.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tD\u00e9sormais, la bataille \u00e0 Washington est pour verrouiller la paternit\u00e9 du plan d\u00e9route-victoire, extraordinairement baptis\u00e9 Administration’s Plan For Victory In Iraq<\/em>. L’affaire est marqu\u00e9e par plusieurs \u00e9v\u00e9nements en rapide succession :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t• Les d\u00e9clarations du d\u00e9put\u00e9 d\u00e9mocrate Murtha<\/a> et l’effondrement du soutien populaire \u00e0 la guerre.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t• Un article du s\u00e9nateur Biden dans le Washington Post<\/em> d\u00e9taillant un plan de retrait (lequel lui a \u00e9t\u00e9 transmis par ses sources \u00e0 la Maison-Blanche, sur instruction).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t• Une intervention de la Maison-Blanche pour proclamer : Biden nous a copi\u00e9s, ce plan est \u00e0 nous.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tQuelques paragraphes de la d\u00e9p\u00eache de AFP<\/a> sur l’affaire : \u00ab The White House for the first time has claimed possession of an Iraq withdrawal plan, arguing that a troop pullout blueprint unveiled this past week by a Democratic senator was remarkably similar to its own.<\/em> (…)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bb The statement late Saturday by White House spokesman Scott McClellan came in response to a commentary published in The Washington Post by Joseph Biden, the top Democrat of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, in which he said US forces will begin leaving Iraq next year in large numbers. According to Biden, the United States will move about 50,000 servicemen out of the country by the end of 2006, and a significant number of the remaining 100,000 the year after. The blueprint also calls for leaving only an unspecified small force either in Iraq or across the border to strike at concentrations of insurgents, if necessary.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bb In the White House statement, which was released under the headline Senator Biden Adopts Key Portions Of Administration’s Plan For Victory In Iraq, McClellan said the administration of President George W. Bush welcomed Biden’s voice in the debate. Today, Senator Biden described a plan remarkably similar to the administration’s plan to fight and win the war on terror, the spokesman went on to say. McClellan added that as Iraqi security forces gain strength and experience, we can lessen our troop presence in the country without losing our capability to effectively defeat the terrorists. McClellan said the White House now saw a strong consensus building in Washington in favor of Bush’s strategy in Iraq.<\/em> \u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tUn texte de Patrick J. Buchanan<\/a>, de ce matin, est d’un plus grand int\u00e9r\u00eat que les d\u00e9clarations de McClellan ou les r\u00e9flexions de Biden pour comprendre l’\u00e9volution de la situation. Buchanan r\u00e9sume les \u00e9v\u00e9nements depuis le 20 novembre, qui conduisent \u00e0 l’in\u00e9luctable d\u00e9cision de retrait. Il conclut sur les perspectives et ce sont \u00e9videmment celles-ci qui nous int\u00e9ressent. Elles sont de deux ordres :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t• Le retrait est d\u00e9sormais programm\u00e9, mais les insurg\u00e9s laisseront-ils faire? On a vu jusqu’ici qu’ils faisaient \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s ce qui leur pla\u00eet, jusqu’\u00e0 tirer un obus de mortier dans une cour o\u00f9 avait lieu une c\u00e9r\u00e9monie officielle, dans la zone verte, avec la pr\u00e9sence de l’ambassadeur US \u00e0 Bagdad et du commandant en chef des forces US. Posons la question autrement : \u00e0 quel prix les insurg\u00e9s laisseront-ils \u00e9ventuellement faire? Ou bien, pour r\u00e9pondre en partie aux deux questions pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes, faudra-t-il se tourner vers une aide ext\u00e9rieure, qui donc? L’Iran pardi, selon Newsweek<\/a> : \u00ab President Bush is also doing what he has been loath to do: asking neighboring countries for help, even the rabid anti-American Islamists in Tehran. <\/em> [The U.S. ambassador to Iraq] Khalilzad revealed to Newsweek that he has received explicit permission from Bush to begin a diplomatic dialogue with Iran, which has meddled politically in Iraq. I’ve been authorized by the president to engage the Iranians as I engaged them in Afghanistan directly, says Khalilzad. There will be meetings, and that’s also a departure and an adjustment.<\/em> \u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t• La deuxi\u00e8me perspective est la plus int\u00e9ressante: la d\u00e9route-victoire d’Irak devrait ouvrir \u00e0 Washington un grand d\u00e9bat sur la politique \u00e9trang\u00e8re, ses orientations, ses ambitions et ses \u00e9checs. \u00ab Bush has three years left, but the time is approaching when debate on a new U.S. foreign policy for the post-Bush era must begin. One lesson from this war is already clear: Americans will not long support spilling the blood of their soldier sons in a war for ideals like democracy in the Arab world unless they are convinced national security or U.S. vital interests are imperiled.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bb Months back, as opponents of the war became the majority, I predicted a Gene McCarthy would rise to lead the antiwar movement. No one expected it to be Rep. John Murtha, a combat veteran with 37 years in Marine Corps service. But Murtha’s emotional call for withdrawal has proven a catalyst for Congress and the country.<\/em> \u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tCe grand d\u00e9bat aura-t-il lieu, ce grand d\u00e9bat sur une v\u00e9ritable politique ext\u00e9rieure US post-Guerre froide? On l’annonce r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement depuis 15 ans (depuis la fin de la Guerre froide, bien s\u00fbr). Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement \u00e9lud\u00e9 au profit de tendances incontr\u00f4lables d’affirmations vaniteuses de puissance conduisant \u00e0 des culs-de-sac comme l’est aujourd’hui l’Irak. La crainte g\u00e9n\u00e9rale de l’establishment<\/em> est qu’un tel d\u00e9bat aboutisse \u00e0 l’affirmation d’une tendance de retrait proche de l’isolationnisme.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tLa logique voudrait que ce d\u00e9bat ait lieu. Il y a beau temps que la logique n’a plus la haute main sur l’esprit des hommes dans notre temps historique.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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