{"id":67932,"date":"2006-08-28T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-08-28T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/08\/28\/un-debat-qui-nous-vient-de-mars\/"},"modified":"2006-08-28T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2006-08-28T00:00:00","slug":"un-debat-qui-nous-vient-de-mars","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/08\/28\/un-debat-qui-nous-vient-de-mars\/","title":{"rendered":"Un d\u00e9bat qui nous vient de Mars"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Ceci semble d&rsquo;un surr\u00e9alisme grossier, comme un de ces films des studios hollywoodiens des ann\u00e9es 1950 dont la primarit\u00e9, version Curtiss LeMay, s&rsquo;accordait en contre-point \u00e0 la grande terreur communiste. Un \u00e9conomiste am\u00e9ricain (David R. Henderson) se juge d\u00e9cid\u00e9ment oblig\u00e9 de prendre la plume pour contredire un de ses coll\u00e8gues (Walter Williams), camarade de promotion \u00e0 UCLA, chercheur comme lui \u00e0 la v\u00e9n\u00e9rable Hoover Institution,  coll\u00e8gue honorable s&rsquo;il en est. Williams, le coll\u00e8gue en question, vient de se lamenter <em>in fine<\/em>, cinq jours plus t\u00f4t, parce que les USA n&rsquo;ont pas les tripes (ou bien, les <em>cojones<\/em>, comme disait LeMay) d&rsquo;exp\u00e9dier ou d&rsquo;envisager d&rsquo;exp\u00e9dier une bord\u00e9e de missiles <em>Trident<\/em> (avec huit t\u00eates nucl\u00e9aires chacun) sur la Syrie et sur l&rsquo;Iran. Et qu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;en parlerait plus<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tOn peut lire <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gmu.edu\/departments\/economics\/wew\/articles\/06\/defend.html\" class=\"gen\">l&rsquo;article<\/a> de Williams sur le site de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gmu.edu\/departments\/economics\/wew\/articles.html\" class=\"gen\">George Mason University<\/a>, ou une place lui est faite. Libre \u00e0 chacun de le consulter.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous pr\u00e9f\u00e9rons citer quelques paragraphes de la r\u00e9plique d&rsquo;Henderson.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab <em>In this recent article, Williams at first seems to be advocating dropping nuclear bombs on Iran and Syria. Later in the article, Williams retreats briefly from this viewpoint, sort of.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb <em>Williams writes:<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb <em>Currently, the U.S. has an arsenal of 18 Ohio class submarines. Just one submarine is loaded with 24 Trident nuclear missiles. Each Trident missile has eight nuclear warheads capable of being independently targeted. That means the U.S. alone has the capacity to wipe out Iran, Syria or any other state that supports terrorist groups or engages in terrorism  without risking the life of a single soldier&#8230; I&rsquo;m not suggesting that we rush to use our nuclear capacity to crush states that support terrorism. I&rsquo;m sure there are other less drastic military options. What I am suggesting is that I know of no instances where appeasement, such as the current Western modus operandi, has borne fruit.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb <em>If Williams is not suggesting the use of nuclear weapons, then why did he use most of his article to suggest it? And if he thinks other less drastic military options might work, why doesn&rsquo;t he tell us what these options are? A reasonable conclusion is that he might actually want the U.S. government to drop nuclear bombs on people, but doesn&rsquo;t dare say so until he sees what the reaction is.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb <em>What is Williams&rsquo;s argument for having the U.S. government drop nuclear bombs on people in the Middle East? He doesn&rsquo;t really give one. Williams doesn&rsquo;t bother to establish in what way terrorists in Syria or Iran are a threat to Americans. The closest he gets is to say that Hezbollah, backed by Iran, was responsible for the 1983 murder of 241 U.S. military members in their barracks in Beirut. That was a horrible act, but it was an action against Americans on Hezbollah&rsquo;s own soil. If a U.S. terrorist group had attacked and killed 241 Iranian military members that had established barracks in, say, New Jersey, would Williams think that, 23 years later, the Iranian government would be justified in dropping nuclear bombs on people in the United States? I think he wouldn&rsquo;t. But why not? As long as I have known him, Walter Williams has argued from principle. What principle would he use to say that it&rsquo;s wrong for the Iranian government to bomb Americans in that hypothetical situation?<\/em> \u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tEt ainsi de suite Le plus d\u00e9routant dans cet \u00e9change, apr\u00e8s tout, est bien qu&rsquo;il ait lieu. Cela signifie que des esprits de ce calibre,  celui d&rsquo;un \u00e9conomiste de renom dans le cas de Williams,  con\u00e7oivent tr\u00e8s simplement et s\u00e9rieusement qu&rsquo;il faudrait pouvoir \u00e9ventuellement faire cette sorte d&rsquo;action, dans le contexte qu&rsquo;on conna\u00eet. Ces esprits sont sur une autre plan\u00e8te que la n\u00f4tre (Mars ferait l&rsquo;affaire, comme le sugg\u00e9rait le <em>neocon<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.co.uk\/bbcfour\/documentaries\/profile\/robert-kagan.shtml\" class=\"gen\">Kagan<\/a>, du temps o\u00f9 la puissance am\u00e9ricaniste faisait encore impression).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 28 ao\u00fbt 2006 \u00e0 12H29<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ceci semble d&rsquo;un surr\u00e9alisme grossier, comme un de ces films des studios hollywoodiens des ann\u00e9es 1950 dont la primarit\u00e9, version Curtiss LeMay, s&rsquo;accordait en contre-point \u00e0 la grande terreur communiste. Un \u00e9conomiste am\u00e9ricain (David R. Henderson) se juge d\u00e9cid\u00e9ment oblig\u00e9 de prendre la plume pour contredire un de ses coll\u00e8gues (Walter Williams), camarade de promotion&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[5841,2773,3382,5108,3004,3867,5840],"class_list":["post-67932","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-henderson","tag-iran","tag-kagan","tag-mars","tag-nucleaire","tag-syrie","tag-williams"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67932","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=67932"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/67932\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=67932"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=67932"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=67932"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}