{"id":68031,"date":"2006-09-26T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-09-26T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/09\/26\/des-mots-transatlantiques\/"},"modified":"2006-09-26T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2006-09-26T00:00:00","slug":"des-mots-transatlantiques","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/09\/26\/des-mots-transatlantiques\/","title":{"rendered":"Des mots transatlantiques"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Malgr\u00e9 les sourires de rigueur lorsqu&rsquo;on se rencontre entre Am\u00e9ricains et Europ\u00e9ens, des indications pr\u00e9cises sont apparues sur un affrontement entre ces m\u00eames Am\u00e9ricains et Europ\u00e9ens lors de leur rencontre en marge de la session annuelle des Nations-Unies. Le sujet \u00e9tait le terrorisme. Le d\u00e9saccord \u00e9tait flagrant, quant \u00e0 la mani\u00e8re de l&rsquo;affronter. Cela s&rsquo;est dit et cela a vol\u00e9 bas.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tSelon une d\u00e9p\u00eache Reuters relay\u00e9e par <a href=\"http:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/story.php?F=2129112&#038;C=europe\" class=\"gen\">Defense News<\/a> le 25 septembre, les choses se sont pass\u00e9es de cette fa\u00e7on :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>a pointed exchange behind closed doors on methods of fighting terrorism between Rice and Finnish Foreign Minister Erkki Tuomioja, whose country holds the rotating EU presidency, highlighted transatlantic tensions lurking below the surface.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>It began near the end of the meeting, according to one participant, when Tuomioja said ministers were bound to be asked if they had discussed the issue of secret Central Intelligence Agency prisons for suspected terrorists and rendition flights&rsquo; to transfer prisoners to states where they may face torture.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Since the matter was not on the official agenda, he suggested they should all agree to say it had not been discussed and that they had agreed on all the points on the agenda.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>According to the participant, Rice responded by saying all countries must keep up the fight against terrorism, noting that the discovery of an alleged plot in Britain last month to blow up trans-Atlantic aircraft showed the persistent danger.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Tuomioja replied: We all agree on the need to fight terrorism but we should do so in a way that does not create more terrorism in the future.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Rice shot back: Let&rsquo;s deal with those who are trying to kill us now and leave the future for some other time.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Unwilling to leave her the last word as the meeting broke up, Tuomioja added: The future is with us today.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes r\u00e9actions avec la publication de cet \u00e9change ont \u00e9t\u00e9 vari\u00e9es. Pas de r\u00e9action du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des Finlandais. Du c\u00f4t\u00e9 du d\u00e9partement d&rsquo;Etat, le porte-parole a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que Rice \u00e9tait parfaitement pr\u00eate \u00e0 discuter de cette question quand celle-ci avait surgi, \u00e0 la fin de la rencontre, et que la discussion telle qu&rsquo;elle est rapport\u00e9e n&rsquo;est pas \u00ab<em>an accurate recounting of the<\/em> [real] <em>discussion<\/em>\u00bb. En d&rsquo;autres termes, c&rsquo;est \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s comme Reuters le rapporte que cet incident s&rsquo;est d\u00e9roul\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;incident ne montre rien de plus que la poursuite de l&rsquo;incompr\u00e9hension totale entre les Am\u00e9ricains et <em>the Rest Of the World<\/em> (les Europ\u00e9ens en premier), notamment sur cette question de la lutte contre le terrorisme, et la mont\u00e9e r\u00e9guli\u00e8re de la tension entre Europe et USA \u00e0 ce propos. Il n&rsquo;y a aucune raison, et toutes les raisons du monde pour l&rsquo;inverse, pour que cette situation ne se poursuive pas et ne s&rsquo;aggrave pas.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 26 septembre 2006 \u00e0 08H19<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Malgr\u00e9 les sourires de rigueur lorsqu&rsquo;on se rencontre entre Am\u00e9ricains et Europ\u00e9ens, des indications pr\u00e9cises sont apparues sur un affrontement entre ces m\u00eames Am\u00e9ricains et Europ\u00e9ens lors de leur rencontre en marge de la session annuelle des Nations-Unies. Le sujet \u00e9tait le terrorisme. Le d\u00e9saccord \u00e9tait flagrant, quant \u00e0 la mani\u00e8re de l&rsquo;affronter. 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