{"id":68088,"date":"2006-10-11T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-10-11T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/10\/11\/des-gens-serieux-nous-disent-tout-compte-fait-quil-y-a-eu-655000-morts-en-irak-depuis-mars-2003-pensez-y\/"},"modified":"2006-10-11T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2006-10-11T00:00:00","slug":"des-gens-serieux-nous-disent-tout-compte-fait-quil-y-a-eu-655000-morts-en-irak-depuis-mars-2003-pensez-y","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/10\/11\/des-gens-serieux-nous-disent-tout-compte-fait-quil-y-a-eu-655000-morts-en-irak-depuis-mars-2003-pensez-y\/","title":{"rendered":"Des gens s\u00e9rieux nous disent, tout compte fait, qu&rsquo;il y a eu 655.000 morts en Irak depuis mars 2003 \u2014 pensez-y"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Finalement, les critiques de l&rsquo;efficacit\u00e9 des arm\u00e9es am\u00e9ricanistes en Irak pourraient se trouver s\u00e8chement remball\u00e9s. Les derni\u00e8res estimations calcul\u00e9es des pertes en Irak, depuis mars 2003 et le conflit d\u00e9clench\u00e9 par ces m\u00eames forces,  ce qui implique directement ou indirectement leur responsabilit\u00e9 dans ces pertes,  sont impressionnantes. Elles font de l&rsquo;Irak un conflit meurtrier, une vraie guerre si l&rsquo;on veut. Diantre : 655.000 morts depuis mars 2003 (Selon les calculs : 601.000 morts directement dues aux violences, le reste d\u00fb \u00e0 des maladies et causes diverses connect\u00e9es \u00e0 la guerre.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;\u00e9tude devrait normalement faire du bruit. Elle est le fait d&rsquo;une \u00e9quipe d\u00e9j\u00e0 connue, qui pr\u00e9sente des garanties de s\u00e9rieux indiscutables, en plus nimb\u00e9e de toutes les vertus du s\u00e9rieux anglo-saxon. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tSelon le Washington <em>Post<\/em>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2006\/10\/10\/AR2006101001442_pf.html\" class=\"gen\">aujourd&rsquo;hui<\/a> :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The survey was done by Iraqi physicians and overseen by epidemiologists at Johns Hopkins University&rsquo;s Bloomberg School of Public Health. The findings are being published online today by the British medical journal the Lancet.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The same group in 2004 published an estimate of roughly 100,000 deaths in the first 18 months after the invasion. That figure was much higher than expected, and was controversial. The new study estimates that about 500,000 more Iraqis, both civilian and military, have died since then  a finding likely to be equally controversial.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t()<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Ronald Waldman, an epidemiologist at Columbia University who worked at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for many years, called the survey method tried and true, and added that this is the best estimate of mortality we have.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>This viewed was echoed by Sarah Leah Whitson, an official of Human Rights Watch in New York, who said, We have no reason to question the findings or the accuracy of the survey.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>I expect that people will be surprised by these figures, she said. I think it is very important that, rather than questioning them, people realize there is very, very little reliable data coming out of Iraq.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;\u00e9tude a le m\u00e9rite, pour ceux qui voudront bien s&rsquo;y attarder, de nous projeter un instant dans la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 sanglante terrifiante de l&rsquo;Irak. A cette lumi\u00e8re, l&rsquo;extraordinaire absurdit\u00e9 de ce conflit, d\u00e8s son origine et sa conception par des psychologies malades, acquiert des dimensions bouleversantes. De telles estimations qui prennent l&rsquo;allure d&rsquo;une r\u00e9v\u00e9lation sur la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 du monde que nous fabriquons, dont nous sommes \u00e0 la fois les concepteurs et les responsables, doivent normalement contribuer d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on int\u00e9ressante \u00e0 la d\u00e9stabilisation de nos propres certitudes occidentales. Face \u00e0 cette masse de souffrances et de morts, nos mythes rassurants et assur\u00e9s sur les vertus du progr\u00e8s et de la d\u00e9mocratie occidentale, et notre trouille courante et justificatrice des pires comportements du conflit des civilisations, devraient normalement \u00eatre soumis \u00e0 une interrogation troubl\u00e9e. Dans tous les cas, cela pourrait arriver<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 11 octobre 2006 \u00e0 14H03<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Finalement, les critiques de l&rsquo;efficacit\u00e9 des arm\u00e9es am\u00e9ricanistes en Irak pourraient se trouver s\u00e8chement remball\u00e9s. Les derni\u00e8res estimations calcul\u00e9es des pertes en Irak, depuis mars 2003 et le conflit d\u00e9clench\u00e9 par ces m\u00eames forces, ce qui implique directement ou indirectement leur responsabilit\u00e9 dans ces pertes, sont impressionnantes. Elles font de l&rsquo;Irak un conflit meurtrier, une&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[857,4379,4394],"class_list":["post-68088","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-irak","tag-lancet","tag-pertes"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68088","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=68088"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68088\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=68088"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=68088"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=68088"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}