{"id":68117,"date":"2006-10-20T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2006-10-20T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/10\/20\/rumsfeld-apres-ou-avant-bagdad\/"},"modified":"2006-10-20T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2006-10-20T00:00:00","slug":"rumsfeld-apres-ou-avant-bagdad","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2006\/10\/20\/rumsfeld-apres-ou-avant-bagdad\/","title":{"rendered":"<strong><em>Rumsfeld apr\u00e8s ou avant Bagdad ?<\/em><\/strong>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h2 class=\"common-article\">Rumsfeld apr\u00e8s ou avant Bagdad ?<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\t20 octobre 2006  Deux nouvelles en apparence contradictoires et en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 compl\u00e9mentaires viennent d&rsquo;\u00eatre publi\u00e9es. Elles sont bien s\u00fbr \u00e0 consid\u00e9rer \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re des nouvelles alarmantes concernant l&rsquo;Irak, et <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=3279\" class=\"gen\">Bagdad pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t  La premi\u00e8re vient du Washington <em>Post<\/em>, o\u00f9 Rumsfeld est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 comme le parfait bouc-\u00e9missaire de la d\u00e9faite qui se pr\u00e9cise chaque jour davantage en Irak  et qu&rsquo;il en a assez, et qu&rsquo;il pr\u00e9pare son d\u00e9part pour se reconvertir (savourez l&rsquo;ironie m\u00eame pr\u00e9sente dans les destins tragiques) dans le <em>charity business<\/em> ou l&rsquo;humanitarisme.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t  La seconde est un soutien inattendu de certains g\u00e9n\u00e9raux de la hi\u00e9rarchie, qui ont publiquement fait le pan\u00e9gyrique du secr\u00e9taire \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense  comme s&rsquo;ils voulaient dire : Ne partez pas, nous avons encore besoin de vous   comme bouc-\u00e9missaire?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tC&rsquo;est Sally Quinn, dans le Washington <em>Post<\/em>, qui d\u00e9taille le r\u00f4le de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2006\/10\/18\/AR2006101801503_pf.html\" class=\"gen\">parfait bouc-\u00e9missaire<\/a> que tient Rumsfeld aujourd&rsquo;hui, et qui conclut :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>And it&rsquo;s improbable that Rumsfeld can last. He may not have an exit strategy for Iraq, but, old Washington hand that he is, he undoubtedly has one for himself.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>I suspect that he has already told the president and Cheney that he will leave after the midterm elections, saying that the country needs new leadership to wind down the war. And he will resign to take a job in some sort of humanitarian venture, thereby creating the perception that he is a caring person who left of his own accord to devote the rest of his life to good works.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Bush and Cheney, who don&rsquo;t want him gone, will then have to contend with the reality of the new situation: One goat must be sent off into the wilderness. Who will it be?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tQuant aux g\u00e9n\u00e9raux en place, sans doute peut-on avancer qu&rsquo;ils pourraient craindre, eux aussi, de se trouver en premi\u00e8re ligne, \u00e9galement comme bouc-\u00e9missaires de remplacement, si Rumsfeld s&rsquo;en va. D&rsquo;o\u00f9, selon un rapport d&rsquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/rawstory.com\/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fs%2Fafp%2F20061019%2Fpl_afp%2Fusmilitarypolitics_061019193550\" class=\"gen\">AFP<\/a>, une avalanche de compliments inattendus, allant jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 l&rsquo;inspiration divine qu&rsquo;on croyait jusqu&rsquo;alors r\u00e9serv\u00e9e \u00e0 GW (mais cela ne signifie-t-il pas, apr\u00e8s tout, que Dieu pourrait \u00eatre le bouc-\u00e9missaire ultime si tout craquait \u00e0 Washington ?) :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>He leads in a way that the good Lord tells him is best for our country, said Marine General Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Rumsfeld is a man whose patriotism focus, energy, drive, is exceeded by no one else I know &#8230; quite simply, he works harder than anybody else in our building, Pace said at a ceremony at the Southern Command (Southcom) in Miami.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Rumsfeld has faced a storm of criticism and calls for his resignation, largely over his handling of the Iraq war. But he got a strong show of support from the military establishment at Thursday&rsquo;s ceremony, where Navy Admiral James Stavridis took over Southcom&rsquo;s command from General Bantz Craddock.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>He comes to work everyday with a single-minded focus to make this country safe, said Stavridis who was a senior aide to Rumsfeld before taking on the Southcom job.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<h3>Retour sur le mois d&rsquo;ao\u00fbt 2006 : solitude et d\u00e9sarroi de Rumsfeld<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t[<strong><em>Note Bene<\/em><\/strong> <em>: au mois d&rsquo;ao\u00fbt, lors de l&rsquo;affrontement entre Isra\u00ebl et le Hezbollah, nous avions not\u00e9 ceci (notes non publi\u00e9es mais qui m\u00e9ritent de l&rsquo;\u00eatre aujourd&rsquo;hui \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re des rumeurs autour de Rumsfeld),  que nous retranscrivons fid\u00e8lement, avec quelques am\u00e9nagements n\u00e9cessaires mais en gardant la forme temporelle de l&rsquo;\u00e9poque, alors que les hypoth\u00e8ses allaient bon train sur l&rsquo;extension du conflit \u00e0 l&rsquo;Iran.<\/em>]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tDonald Rumsfeld est-il en train de devenir un personnage tragique? Il y a bien des remarques, ces derniers jours, sur le silence du secr\u00e9taire \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9gard de l&rsquo;affaire libanaise, sur les craintes qu&rsquo;il \u00e9prouverait sur le sort du corps exp\u00e9ditionnaire US en Irak en cas de conflit avec l&rsquo;Iran, etc.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tOn a d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=3038\" class=\"gen\">certaines<\/a> de ces <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=3038\" class=\"gen\">remarques<\/a>. D&rsquo;autres viennent les renforcer.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t  Un article de <em>RAW Story<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rawstory.com\/news\/2006\/Moonowned_paper_features_BushRumsfeld_conflict_0814.html\" class=\"gen\">14 ao\u00fbt<\/a> signale un autre article (du <em>Middle East Times<\/em>) sur la position de Rumsfeld. <em>RAW Story<\/em> fait grand cas de l&rsquo;appartenance de <em>Middle East Times<\/em> au r\u00e9v\u00e9rend Moon, qui tient son r\u00f4le dans la politique int\u00e9rieure US, et au fait que la publication de <em>Middle East Times<\/em> d\u00e9pend de l&rsquo;approbation des autorit\u00e9s \u00e9gyptiennes.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t  Cet article du <em>Middle East Times<\/em>, en date du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.metimes.com\/articles\/normal.php?StoryID=20060814-035136-1700r<D\" class=\"gen\">14 ao\u00fbt<\/a>, analyse la situation en Irak \u00e0 partir de la mention de ce d\u00e9saccord entre Rumsfeld et Bush : \u00ab <em>It is an open secret in Washington US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld wants to extricate himself from Iraq but President George W. Bush remains resolute, thus the US hangs on, a US investigative reporter has written.<\/em> \u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous int\u00e9resse surtout, dans le cas tel qu&rsquo;il est abord\u00e9 ici, le personnage de Rumsfeld, moins la querelle sur l&rsquo;Irak. [] Il y a un passage d&rsquo;une interview de Seymour  Hersh avec Any Goodman, le 14 ao\u00fbt 2006,  sur <a href=\"http:\/\/www.democracynow.org\/article.pl?sid=06\/08\/14\/1358255\" class=\"gen\">Democracy Now !<\/a> qui est particuli\u00e8rement int\u00e9ressant. Nous le reproduisons ci-apr\u00e8s.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>AMY GOODMAN<\/em><\/strong>: <em>You also talk about Elliott Abrams, and you talk about Donald Rumsfeld&rsquo;s role.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>SEYMOUR HERSH<\/em><\/strong>: <em>Well, what&rsquo;s interesting about Rumsfeld, because for the first time  and not everybody agreed, but people that  you know, I&rsquo;m long of tooth, Amy, and I&rsquo;ve been around this town a long time, and obviously, since 9\/11, a lot of people talk to me. And for the first time, Rummy doesn&rsquo;t seem to be on board, is what I&rsquo;m hearing. Actually, somebody even suggested he&rsquo;s getting a little bit like Robert McNamara. If you remember, McNamara, the Secretary of Defense who, under both Kennedy and Johnson, was a great advocate of the Vietnam War and its chief salesman, basically, one of its chief salesmen all during the &rsquo;60s, and by &rsquo;67, he decided it wasn&rsquo;t winnable and ended up being shoved out and put in the World Bank.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<em>Rumsfeld is very concerned about the 150,000 American troops on the ground in Iraq, who are potentially in a very untenable position. There&rsquo;s no question Iraq&rsquo;s lost. There&rsquo;s a lot of question about what we&rsquo;re doing in Afghanistan. We&rsquo;re sort of 0-for-2 in those two. And so, Rumsfeld was not happy about this policy, about going in in a protracted war in Southern Lebanon with Nasrallah, because, of course  I think Nasrallah is his own man. None of us really know. I think he decides what he wants to do. I don&rsquo;t think Syria and Iran control him the way Washington, this White House seems to believe everything comes from Iran. You know, anybody who meets Nasrallah, as I have a couple of times, he&rsquo;s rather formidable. In any case<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t()<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<em>In any case, the whole point here is, Rumsfeld to get back to Rumsfeld, there&rsquo;s no question that Iran has enormous influence inside Iraq, dominated now by the Shia, Shia Iran, and I think Rumsfeld&rsquo;s concern, I was told, is that a protracted war against Nasrallah will only cause the Iranians, in support of Hezbollah, to start squeezing our troops in Iraq.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<em>And we&rsquo;re  you know, as I say, it&rsquo;s an untenable position in Iraq. And nobody quite knows  this government has no idea on how to get out, just like I don&rsquo;t think the Israelis  you know, the same pattern you saw in Israel as you saw with this Bush White House going into Iraq: they were so sure of victory that they never looked at the downside. Actually, I quote somebody in this article in the New Yorker, a really high-level guy in one of the military services, saying, You can&rsquo;t get this White House to think about the downside of anything. And you saw that with the Israelis. They had no idea, once they got into the quagmire, of how to extract, except to add more forces and increase the death toll to themselves, too.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t[<strong><em>Note Bene (bis)<\/em><\/strong> <em>: fin de la transcription de nos notes d&rsquo;ao\u00fbt 2006.<\/em>]<\/p>\n<h3>La trag\u00e9die s&rsquo;installe sous nos yeux<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPolitique, psychologie et destin personnel, tout cela sur le mode de la trag\u00e9die que d\u00e9teste l&rsquo;am\u00e9ricanisme, se m\u00e9langent ici. A la derni\u00e8re r\u00e9union des ministres de la d\u00e9fense des ministres de l&rsquo;OTAN, en Slov\u00e9nie, fin septembre 2006, le commentaire principal que nous fit une source officielle sur Rumsfeld est celui-ci, brutal mais significatif \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de ce que nous observons aujourd&rsquo;hui : \u00ab<em>Ce qui est apparu \u00e0 la r\u00e9union, c&rsquo;est que Rumsfeld est vieux.<\/em>\u00bb Transcrivons \u00e0 notre estime : Soudain, Rumsfeld porte son \u00e2ge comme un fardeau (il a d\u00e9pass\u00e9 les 70 ans). Le d\u00e9couragement psychologique, la d\u00e9pression peut-\u00eatre, s&rsquo;installent et la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 physique de l&rsquo;homme appara\u00eet.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes destins personnels tragiques sont monnaie courante au Pentagone, bien qu&rsquo;on \u00e9vite d&rsquo;en faire la publicit\u00e9 et encore moins d&rsquo;en tirer quelque conclusion que ce soit \u00e0 propos du syst\u00e8me. James Forrestal s&rsquo;est suicid\u00e9 en 1949, Robert McNamara fr\u00f4la l&rsquo;effondrement psychologique. La machine d\u00e9vore les hommes, quels que soient leurs choix personnels, quelle que soit l&rsquo;estime ou la haine qu&rsquo;on leur voue. M\u00eame les plus durs  Rumsfeld bien s\u00fbr  n&rsquo;\u00e9chappent pas \u00e0 cette pression inhumaine.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes destins personnels pars\u00e8ment la trag\u00e9die majeure qui, aujourd&rsquo;hui, est en train d&rsquo;envelopper Washington dans la fournaise que constitue le grand heurt avec la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 du d\u00e9sastre irakien. R\u00e9p\u00e9tons-le, l&rsquo;am\u00e9ricanisme d\u00e9teste l&rsquo;id\u00e9e de trag\u00e9die. La trag\u00e9die est particuli\u00e8rement <em>un-american<\/em> parce qu&rsquo;elle est fond\u00e9e sur le pessimisme (particuli\u00e8rement le pessimisme nietzsch\u00e9en dont les am\u00e9ricanistes n&rsquo;ont jamais saisi la grandeur \u00e9l\u00e9vatrice et qu&rsquo;ils craignent comme leur ennemi intime puisqu&rsquo;ils ont construit toute leur existence sur un optimisme forcen\u00e9 qui n&rsquo;est que contrainte tordue de la r\u00e9alit\u00e9). <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl faut aussi distinguer la grandeur de l&rsquo;Histoire dans ce qui se passe,  l&rsquo;Histoire qui se fait sous nos yeux, en un ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne extraordinaire d\u00fb \u00e0 nos sorcelleries de communication, comme une immense trag\u00e9die en train de se faire  sous nos yeux \u00e9galement. Les \u00eatres y ont leur place, et leurs psychologies bien s\u00fbr, et Rumsfeld comme un autre. Cette pr\u00e9sence persistante et cette importance tragique de l&rsquo;humain, dans un syst\u00e8me enti\u00e8rement prisonnier de la machine, constituent un espoir paradoxal dans le chaos d\u00e9sesp\u00e9rant de leur monde.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rumsfeld apr\u00e8s ou avant Bagdad ? 20 octobre 2006 Deux nouvelles en apparence contradictoires et en r\u00e9alit\u00e9 compl\u00e9mentaires viennent d&rsquo;\u00eatre publi\u00e9es. Elles sont bien s\u00fbr \u00e0 consid\u00e9rer \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re des nouvelles alarmantes concernant l&rsquo;Irak, et Bagdad pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment. La premi\u00e8re vient du Washington Post, o\u00f9 Rumsfeld est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 comme le parfait bouc-\u00e9missaire de la d\u00e9faite&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[632,6029,5355,3083,6030,4472,2773,569,3819],"class_list":["post-68117","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-faits-et-commentaires","tag-bagdad","tag-bouc","tag-demission","tag-depression","tag-emissaire","tag-hezbollah","tag-iran","tag-rumsfeld","tag-tragedie"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68117","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=68117"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68117\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=68117"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=68117"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=68117"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}