{"id":68861,"date":"2007-06-03T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-06-03T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/06\/03\/les-devoirs-de-vacances-de-giuliani-suite\/"},"modified":"2007-06-03T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-06-03T00:00:00","slug":"les-devoirs-de-vacances-de-giuliani-suite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/06\/03\/les-devoirs-de-vacances-de-giuliani-suite\/","title":{"rendered":"Les devoirs de vacances de Giuliani (suite)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Nous avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 signal\u00e9 les lectures que le professeur Ron Paul a recommand\u00e9es \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9l\u00e8ve Rudy Giuliani, qui s&rsquo;est montr\u00e9 particuli\u00e8rement dissip\u00e9, ignare et  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=4022\" class=\"gen\">d\u00e9pourvu<\/a> en quelques mati\u00e8res essentielles pour comprendre la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 du monde. Parmi les quatre livres dont Ron Paul recommande la lecture, il y a <em>Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of Suicide Terrorism<\/em>, du professeur Robert A. Pape, dont nous avons <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=3001\" class=\"gen\">d\u00e9j\u00e0<\/a> parl\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous y revenons parce que la litt\u00e9rature du professeur Pape est tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressante, m\u00eame si elle ne fait que d\u00e9montrer statistiquement l&rsquo;\u00e9vidence selon le bon sens. Mais l&rsquo;\u00e9vidence, de nos jours, et le bon sens,  ah, voil\u00e0 des mati\u00e8res si rares.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous signalons une interview de Pape par Scott Horton, sur la cha\u00eene radio d&rsquo;<em>Antiwar.com<\/em>, en date du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/blog\/2007\/06\/01\/robert-a-pape\/\" class=\"gen\">1er juin<\/a>. Pape revient sur cette \u00e9vidence qu&rsquo;il a montr\u00e9e par ses recherches statistiques fouill\u00e9es : le terrorisme n&rsquo;est pas en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral l&rsquo;enfant de la folie de Dieu mais le geste de patriotes luttant contre des \u00e9trangers occupant leur patrie. (Il se trouve que nous sommes bien souvent ces \u00e9trangers-l\u00e0.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe m\u00eame Horton avait publi\u00e9 un article tr\u00e8s complet sur le livre de Pape et sur la probl\u00e9matique que le sociologue y d\u00e9veloppait. Ce texte, datant du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/orig\/horton.php?articleid=6720\" class=\"gen\">23 juillet 2005<\/a>, m\u00e9rite sans aucun doute d&rsquo;\u00eatre lu ou relu (sans parler du livre de Pape, certes).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tUn extrait :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Pape has researched the strategic, social, and individual logic of suicide terrorism. He explains that when occupying forces are culturally and\/or religiously alien, they are more vulnerable to demonization. It&rsquo;s the same with the American soldier who wrote to tell me that Iraqis are animals who all look alike and are all guilty of something as his excuse for taking life.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>A major problem with the fringe religion theory is that it ignores the fact that supermajorities in Islamic nations agree with bin Laden&rsquo;s view of American foreign policy, though not necessarily with his tactics. It denies the slightest possibility of a single legitimate grievance that might deserve to be addressed. It also enables our government to maintain its state of war indefinitely.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The profile of the individual suicide bomber is going to need some major revision as well. Pape explains the difference between egoistic and altruistic suicide  the former being the desperate killing of oneself during a period of hopelessness for their own situation, the latter a selfless and noble sacrifice for others, like a soldier jumping on a grenade for his buddies, or a Kamikaze Pilot trying to delay a land invasion of his country. Egoistic suicide has been the model used by westerners to explain suicide bombings. The bombers are losers, they say; young, poor, uneducated, hopeless and full of rage. Having nothing to live for, they murder innocent people because evil Wahhabists brainwash them and promise them virgins in heaven.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>According to Pape, this model must be scrapped. Suicide bombers are typically upper-middle class, well-educated, successful, socially connected people who know exactly what they are doing. For their perception of a greater good, they give their lives to kill people as part of a strategic campaign aimed at the people of the West, to turn us against our governments, and to force them to end the occupations and protections.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous ne soulignerons jamais assez notre \u00e9tonnement que, devant de telles d\u00e9monstrations comme celle de Robert A. Pape, non pas surprenantes mais rencontrant le bon sens, tant d&rsquo;esprits occidentaux et particuli\u00e8rement parmi nos dirigeants, continuent \u00e0 croire \u00e0 la th\u00e8se du terrorisme pour l&rsquo;essentiel fondamentaliste et religieux. Il y a sans aucun doute dans cette <strong>croyance<\/strong> une r\u00e9elle ing\u00e9nuit\u00e9, une sinc\u00e9rit\u00e9 qui ne fait pas de doute. La th\u00e8se du malaise psychologique, proche d&rsquo;une pathologie collective engendr\u00e9e par notre propre perception de l&rsquo;image que nous nous sommes fabriqu\u00e9e de nous-m\u00eames,  virtualisme oblige,  cette th\u00e8se est plus vigoureuse que jamais. On a tort de trop moquer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=4046\" class=\"gen\">GW Bush<\/a>, comme nous le faisons nous-m\u00eames. Nous avons le chef que nous m\u00e9ritons.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 3 juin 2007 \u00e0 16H00<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nous avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 signal\u00e9 les lectures que le professeur Ron Paul a recommand\u00e9es \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9l\u00e8ve Rudy Giuliani, qui s&rsquo;est montr\u00e9 particuli\u00e8rement dissip\u00e9, ignare et d\u00e9pourvu en quelques mati\u00e8res essentielles pour comprendre la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 du monde. Parmi les quatre livres dont Ron Paul recommande la lecture, il y a Dying to Win: The Strategic Logic of&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[6711,6738,2660,3140,3310,1267],"class_list":["post-68861","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-giuliani","tag-horton","tag-pape","tag-paul","tag-ron","tag-terrorisme"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68861","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=68861"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/68861\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=68861"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=68861"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=68861"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}