{"id":69014,"date":"2007-07-14T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-07-14T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/07\/14\/la-perception-du-declin-americaniste-en-allemagne\/"},"modified":"2007-07-14T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-07-14T00:00:00","slug":"la-perception-du-declin-americaniste-en-allemagne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/07\/14\/la-perception-du-declin-americaniste-en-allemagne\/","title":{"rendered":"La perception du d\u00e9clin am\u00e9ricaniste en Allemagne"},"content":{"rendered":"

Une int\u00e9ressante appr\u00e9ciation de Steve Clemons, retour d’Allemagne, sur la question du d\u00e9clin US. Il s’agit de notes assez rapides, mises en ligne le 12 juillet<\/a> sur le site m\u00eame de Clemons.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abOne of the unavoidable impressions I got from Europeans and particularly Germans during this trip is that there is widespread regret that America has slipped off its pedestal as a largely benign superpower that promoted liberty and economic opportunity. The dollar’s decline against the euro has only reinforced a widespread view that America can’t afford its global pretensions any longer. While America remains important, it is clear to everyone that it is less so.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbAnd the Germans are angry at Bush and America as a whole for so badly screwing up a number of collective efforts particularly on climate change but also in the Middle East. They are angry that Europe is not in a position to fill the void America is leaving and focus their frustration not on their own leadership problems but at the U.S. for undermining the dynamics of global order.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbA widespread view among elite Germans and the non-elite normal types I spoke to is that America is in fast decline sort of like Britain after World War II. I think that the impressions foreigners have of this decline is overshooting reality as there are many substantive realities about America’s ability to deploy force and purpose in the world that remain formidable.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbBut conversation in some serious circles is turning to what Europe can do to help America stabilize in some position of lesser global stature. There is also a sense that the nation that is filling much of America’s previous geopolitical space is China and that Europe feels tension in its strong alliance with U.S. power in decline and its strategic distance from China clearly ascending.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tCes appr\u00e9ciations sont int\u00e9ressantes dans la mesure des personnalit\u00e9s et des milieux impliqu\u00e9s. Clemons est un mod\u00e9r\u00e9 internationaliste, un atlantiste mod\u00e9r\u00e9 classique, sans aucun doute adversaire affirm\u00e9 des extr\u00e9mistes type n\u00e9o-conservateurs et conservateurs d’extr\u00eame-droite. Les personnalit\u00e9s et les milieux qu’il contacte en Allemagne sont de tendance mod\u00e9r\u00e9e \u00e9galement, et sans aucun doute des milieux atlantistes mod\u00e9r\u00e9s qui sont en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral en contact avec l’establishment<\/em> classique de Washington. Il s’agit donc d’appr\u00e9ciations qui refl\u00e8tent les opinions des milieux politiques et industriels les plus larges dans un pays (l’Allemagne) dont la proximit\u00e9 des USA reste un axe central de sa politique.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tD’autre part, ces confidences allemandes faites \u00e0 un Am\u00e9ricain ne sont pas contraintes par les affirmations d’engagement europ\u00e9en. Elles sont d’autant plus significatives du jugement allemand sur les affaires am\u00e9ricanistes. Il est remarquable que ce sentiment g\u00e9n\u00e9ral allemand porte non plus sur la question du d\u00e9clin US (y a-t-il ou pas d\u00e9clin?) mais sur la question du degr\u00e9 et de la vitesse du d\u00e9clin des USA, \u00e0 partir de leur position d’hyper-puissance h\u00e9g\u00e9monique encore incontestable en 2003.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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\tMis en ligne le 14 juillet 2007 \u00e0 22H31<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Une int\u00e9ressante appr\u00e9ciation de Steve Clemons, retour d’Allemagne, sur la question du d\u00e9clin US. Il s’agit de notes assez rapides, mises en ligne le 12 juillet sur le site m\u00eame de Clemons. \u00abOne of the unavoidable impressions I got from Europeans and particularly Germans during this trip is that there is widespread regret that America… <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2748,6179,2899,2671],"class_list":["post-69014","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-allemagne","tag-clemons","tag-declin","tag-us"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69014","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=69014"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69014\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=69014"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=69014"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=69014"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}