{"id":69287,"date":"2007-10-04T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-10-04T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/10\/04\/a-propos-de-la-france-devenue-atlantiste-demonstration-par-le-ministre-avec-laide-de-la-force-des-choses\/"},"modified":"2007-10-04T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-10-04T00:00:00","slug":"a-propos-de-la-france-devenue-atlantiste-demonstration-par-le-ministre-avec-laide-de-la-force-des-choses","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/10\/04\/a-propos-de-la-france-devenue-atlantiste-demonstration-par-le-ministre-avec-laide-de-la-force-des-choses\/","title":{"rendered":"A propos de la France devenue atlantiste, d\u00e9monstration par le ministre avec l&rsquo;aide de \u201cla force des choses\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Depuis l&rsquo;\u00e9lection de Sarkozy, le bruit d&rsquo;une France devenue atlantiste ne cesse de faire le tour des r\u00e9dactions et des d\u00eeners en ville. Chacun en veut sa part. Ainsi des dirigeants de deux pays d&rsquo;Europe de l&rsquo;Est, de l&rsquo;UE et de l&rsquo;OTAN, le pr\u00e9sident polonais Lech Kaczynski et le Premier ministre tch\u00e8que Mirek Topolanek, qui viennent lundi \u00e0 Paris, la veille du d\u00e9part de Sarkozy \u00e0 Moscou. Comme l&rsquo;annonce l&rsquo;International <em>Herald Tribune<\/em> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.iht.com\/articles\/2007\/10\/03\/news\/france.php\" class=\"gen\">aujourd&rsquo;hui<\/a>, on parlera des anti-missiles US en Europe et des questions d&rsquo;\u00e9nergie, deux probl\u00e8mes o\u00f9 la Russie est impliqu\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa chose est vue par l&rsquo;IHT comme un signe du changement en question (\u00ab<em>The meetings will almost certainly raise eyebrows in Moscow at a time when French foreign policy appears to be shifting from the views of Sarkozy&rsquo;s predecessor, Jacques Chirac, shared with successive Russian leaders, toward a warming of relations with East European countries.<\/em>\u00bb) Les deux visiteurs partagent \u00e9videmment ce point de vue, notamment le Polonais qui vient avec sa petite valise bien remplie d&rsquo;exigences amicales:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Kaczysnki, who has had strained relations with Russia and Germany since taking office in January 2006, intends to seek French support in three main areas, according to Polish officials. They are French backing in the U.S. missile defense plan, Georgia&rsquo;s ambitions to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and an 18-month dispute in which Moscow banned meat imports from Poland.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tVoire En m\u00eame temps que l&rsquo;IHT publie cette analyse du Caf\u00e9 du Commerce, o\u00f9 on trouve notamment la pr\u00e9cision exotique que Paris se rapprocherait de Varsovie, \u00e0 l&rsquo;invite de Varsovie, pour doubler l&rsquo;Allemagne (\u00ab<em>With Sarkozy seeking to establish himself as the new leader of Europe, challenging the position of the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, Poland in particular wants to use the visit Monday to establish much closer contact with Paris<\/em>\u00bb),  en m\u00eame temps donc, le ministre de la d\u00e9fense Morin donne une interview \u00e0 Reuters (reprise le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.defensenews.com\/story.php?F=3084396&#038;C=europe\" class=\"gen\">3 octobre<\/a> par <em>Defense News<\/em>). Le ministre parle notamment de la demande d&rsquo;adh\u00e9sion de la Georgie \u00e0 l&rsquo;OTAN, pour laquelle les Polonais veulent le soutien de Paris:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>French Defense Minister Herve Morin said Oct. 3 he opposed Georgia joining the NATO alliance if it would antagonize neighboring Russia. In an interview with Reuters television, Morin also dismissed speculation that France under new President Nicolas Sarkozy was preparing a swift return to NATO&rsquo;s military structures after an absence of more than 40 years.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Morin said it was important Russia did not feel encircled but did not say whether other NATO members agreed with the French view, which if adopted by the alliance would effectively give Moscow a say in NATO&rsquo;s eastward expansion.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>I think that any NATO enlargement eastwards, towards the Caucasus &#8230; must not be seen an aggression as regards Russia, Morin said in an interview in his defense ministry office.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Despite all the affection and friendship we have for the Georgians &#8230; and I&rsquo;ve said this to the head of the Georgian government, it can only happen if it is not seen as an additional threat with regards to Russia, he said.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNotons bien ceci: c&rsquo;est la premi\u00e8re fois qu&rsquo;un ministre d&rsquo;un membre aussi important de l&rsquo;OTAN qu&rsquo;est la France dit publiquement qu&rsquo;une adh\u00e9sion \u00e0 l&rsquo;OTAN d\u00e9pend d&rsquo;une mani\u00e8re fondamentale du sentiment de la Russie. C&rsquo;est ce qu&rsquo;on appelle un droit de regard de la Russie sur l&rsquo;OTAN, id\u00e9e qui fr\u00f4le le sacril\u00e8ge pour les int\u00e9gristes otaniens et atlantistes. En g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, cette sorte de r\u00e9serve s&rsquo;exprime en priv\u00e9 (\u00ab<em>While publicly the alliance insists a country&rsquo;s drive for membership cannot be held hostage by Russia, some members privately acknowledge that any decision would have at least to take into account any likely harm to ties with Moscow.<\/em>\u00bb) Morin a donc \u00e9tabli une sorte de jurisprudence qui ne classe pas pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment la France dans le camp atlantiste,  m\u00eame du temps de Chirac, on n&rsquo;osait pas dire publiquement cette sorte de chose.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tOn voit mal, apr\u00e8s qu&rsquo;un de ses ministres ait d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 cette logique pour l&rsquo;adh\u00e9sion de la Georgie \u00e0 l&rsquo;OTAN, comment la France pourrait ne pas monter une certaine sensibilit\u00e9 \u00e0 la m\u00eame logique pour le r\u00e9seau anti-missiles US, qu&rsquo;on pourrait juger avec de bonnes raisons comme bien plus mena\u00e7ant pour la Russie que le Georgie. Paris donnera-t-il comme condition \u00e0 son soutien au r\u00e9seau anti-missiles que la Russie ne se sente pas menac\u00e9e? Cela nous promet de beaux d\u00e9bats.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa d\u00e9monstration dont nous parlons est la suivante. Au plus la France se laisser enfermer dans une image d&rsquo;atlantiste,  et la propagande anglo-saxonne s&rsquo;y entend dans cette sorte d&rsquo;exercice,  au plus elle se trouve et se trouvera oblig\u00e9e de donner des coups de barre brutaux dans l&rsquo;autre sens pour en revenir \u00e0 ses int\u00e9r\u00eats et \u00e0 ses conceptions, et en aviser le monde aux \u00e9coutes. (Cela s&rsquo;appelle remettre les pendules \u00e0 l&rsquo;heure.) Nous ignorons si c&rsquo;est une diplomatie tr\u00e8s avis\u00e9e; la seule chose qui nous para\u00eet \u00e9vidente, c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;existence de ce que de Gaulle nommait la force des choses, qui cr\u00e9e des obligations auxquelles nul n&rsquo;\u00e9chappe.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 4 octobre 2007 \u00e0 10H03<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Depuis l&rsquo;\u00e9lection de Sarkozy, le bruit d&rsquo;une France devenue atlantiste ne cesse de faire le tour des r\u00e9dactions et des d\u00eeners en ville. Chacun en veut sa part. Ainsi des dirigeants de deux pays d&rsquo;Europe de l&rsquo;Est, de l&rsquo;UE et de l&rsquo;OTAN, le pr\u00e9sident polonais Lech Kaczynski et le Premier ministre tch\u00e8que Mirek Topolanek, qui&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[3453,3711,5519,7060,584,2827],"class_list":["post-69287","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-anti-missiles","tag-atlantiste","tag-georgie","tag-morin","tag-otan","tag-pologne"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69287","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=69287"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69287\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=69287"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=69287"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=69287"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}