{"id":69338,"date":"2007-10-19T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2007-10-19T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/10\/19\/hesitations-et-contradictions-us-dans-la-crise-des-anti-missiles-en-europe-qui-se-melange-a-la-crise-iranienne\/"},"modified":"2007-10-19T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2007-10-19T00:00:00","slug":"hesitations-et-contradictions-us-dans-la-crise-des-anti-missiles-en-europe-qui-se-melange-a-la-crise-iranienne","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2007\/10\/19\/hesitations-et-contradictions-us-dans-la-crise-des-anti-missiles-en-europe-qui-se-melange-a-la-crise-iranienne\/","title":{"rendered":"H\u00e9sitations et contradictions US dans la crise des anti-missiles en Europe qui se m\u00e9lange \u00e0 la crise iranienne"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Mercredi \u00e0 Bruxelles, \u00e0 l&rsquo;OTAN, le secr\u00e9taire d&rsquo;Etat adjoint US pour les affaires europ\u00e9ennes Fried avait laiss\u00e9 entendre que les USA pourraient revoir leur plan de d\u00e9ploiement d&rsquo;anti-missiles US (ABM) en Europe si l&rsquo;Iran abandonnait ses projets de nucl\u00e9aire militaire (ses projets d&rsquo;enrichissement d&rsquo;uranium). Hier, d\u00e9menti: on avait mal compris Fried, semble-t-il Mais d\u00e9menti complet? Il est possible, mais pas du tout clarifi\u00e9, que le d\u00e9menti aille m\u00eame au-del\u00e0, jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 une offre que Gates et Rice (ou Gates sans Rice?) aurait faite \u00e0 Poutine. Curieuse cacophonie.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tMercredi, Fried disait, selon une d\u00e9p\u00e8che AFP du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spacewar.com\/reports\/US_says_no_missile_defense_review_if_Iran_drops_nuclear_program_999.html\" class=\"gen\">18 octobre<\/a> qui nous r\u00e9sume toute l&rsquo;affaire: \u00ab<em>The shield is intended against the major problem we see developing, which is Iran, and if that problem went away or attenuated we would obviously draw conclusions, Fried said.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>This is a threat-based system, and we would be affected if Iran gave up its (uranium) enrichment and worked with the international community, and had a different approach to things, Fried said.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa m\u00eame d\u00e9p\u00eache poursuit en d\u00e9veloppant le d\u00e9menti du d\u00e9partement d&rsquo;Etat. \u00ab<em>But Tom Casey, a State Department spokesman, said Thursday, I think there has a been a great deal of confusion and a great deal of misconstruing of remarks that may or may not have been made out in Brussels.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The US position is clear  there is a threat that exists from rogue states in terms of missiles, that includes missiles armed with convention munitions as well as potentially missiles armed with nuclear and other WMD (weapons of mass destruction) agents, he said.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>I saw some interpretations that seem to say if Iran suspends its enrichment activities, there would be a suspension or a halt or a decision not to proceed with the US missile defense systems. That&rsquo;s simply not true, he said.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tD&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on plus g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, la d\u00e9p\u00eache rapporte sur le mode informel  que le d\u00e9partement d&rsquo;Etat affirme qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;y aura aucune r\u00e9examen (<em>review<\/em>) du programme des ABM en Europe tant que toute la menace iraniennes auront disparues. Ce r\u00e9examen qui n&rsquo;aura pas lieu,  pour l&rsquo;instant,  porte autant, semble-t-il, sur un gel temporaire que sur une r\u00e9duction ou abandon du programme.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The United States said Thursday it would not review plans for a missile defense system in Europe if Iran gave up its sensitive uranium enrichment program.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Any review of the controversial plan would occur only if there was a change in the overall threat posed by Iran, including from its missiles, the State Department said.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tSi ce d\u00e9menti porte sur un gel \u00e9ventuel du d\u00e9ploiement des ABM, comme il semblerait que ce soit le cas si l&rsquo;on s&rsquo;en r\u00e9f\u00e8re \u00e0 la formulation, alors il pourrait concerner \u00e9galement d&rsquo;autres informations. Il s&rsquo;agit, par exemple, de celle du <em>Financial Times<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ft.com\/cms\/s\/e0b22658-7ce8-11dc-aee2-0000779fd2ac,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fe0b22658-7ce8-11dc-aee2-0000779fd2ac.html&#038;_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fworld%2Feurope\" class=\"gen\">17 octobre<\/a>: \u00ab<em>The US has told Russia it would be willing to delay switching on a missile defence system in Europe until both sides agree there was a threat from Iran, according to US officials. Robert Gates, US defence secretary, and Condoleezza Rice, secretary of state, made the offer to Russian President Vladimir Putin last week<\/em>\u00bb C&rsquo;est ce dont <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=4538\" class=\"gen\">parlait<\/a> Poutine \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl semble assez difficile d&rsquo;y voir clair dans la position US. Cette sorte de circonstances est en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral l&rsquo;indication de certaines tensions et contradictions \u00e0 l&rsquo;int\u00e9rieur du camp qui les manifeste (le camp US en l&rsquo;occurrence). Il  semble qu&rsquo;il y ait eu \u00e0 Moscou (Gates-Rice, puis Poutine \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran) l&rsquo;\u00e9vocation de la possibilit\u00e9 de concessions US, relay\u00e9e par Bruxelles (Fried); puis, durcissement g\u00e9n\u00e9ral et affirmation que rien n&rsquo;est envisag\u00e9 tant que l&rsquo;Iran n&rsquo;a pas <strong>tout<\/strong> abandonn\u00e9 de ce qui fait que ce pays est \u00e9tiquet\u00e9 menace. Un durcissement dans ce cas, c&rsquo;est bien le signe d&rsquo;une m\u00e9sentente \u00e0 Washington, entre agences et services. Puisqu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;est pas d&rsquo;accord entre nous, on verrouille.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tEn attendant, un ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne fondamental est en train de se poursuivre et de s&rsquo;acc\u00e9l\u00e9rer \u00e0 la faveur de ces tensions et de ces confusions. (Nous en signalions la possibilit\u00e9 le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=4446\" class=\"gen\">19 septembre<\/a>.) Les deux crises,  la crise iranienne et la crise des ABM en Europe,  apparaissent de plus en plus li\u00e9es l&rsquo;une \u00e0 l&rsquo;autre, de plus en plus connect\u00e9es et m\u00e9lang\u00e9es. Elles ajoutent leurs complications, leurs interf\u00e9rences. Pour les Europ\u00e9ens, le ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne complique fortement une approche d\u00e9j\u00e0 difficile. Il transforme une crise ext\u00e9rieure dont ils pouvaient se tenir \u00e0 distance (la crise iranienne initiale) en une crise nouvelle qui implique \u00e0 la fois cette crise \u00e0 distance et la crise de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 europ\u00e9enne ouverte par le projet US. Le r\u00e9sultat, jusqu&rsquo;ici, pour la diplomatie occidentale\/US, n&rsquo;est pas banal.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 19 octobre 2007 \u00e0 16H13<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mercredi \u00e0 Bruxelles, \u00e0 l&rsquo;OTAN, le secr\u00e9taire d&rsquo;Etat adjoint US pour les affaires europ\u00e9ennes Fried avait laiss\u00e9 entendre que les USA pourraient revoir leur plan de d\u00e9ploiement d&rsquo;anti-missiles US (ABM) en Europe si l&rsquo;Iran abandonnait ses projets de nucl\u00e9aire militaire (ses projets d&rsquo;enrichissement d&rsquo;uranium). Hier, d\u00e9menti: on avait mal compris Fried, semble-t-il Mais d\u00e9menti complet?&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[3453,7144,3984,2773,2707,916],"class_list":["post-69338","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-anti-missiles","tag-fried","tag-gates","tag-iran","tag-moscou","tag-poutine"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69338","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=69338"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69338\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=69338"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=69338"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=69338"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}