{"id":69689,"date":"2008-02-18T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2008-02-18T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/02\/18\/extremement-plus-dure-sera-la-chute\/"},"modified":"2008-02-18T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2008-02-18T00:00:00","slug":"extremement-plus-dure-sera-la-chute","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/02\/18\/extremement-plus-dure-sera-la-chute\/","title":{"rendered":"Extr\u00eamement plus dure sera la chute"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>La notion que les USA font ce qu&rsquo;ils veulent, o\u00f9 ils veulent, comme ils veulent, est largement renvoy\u00e9e dans le rayon des accessoires, du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des <em>dodo bird<\/em> (\u00ab<em> seems largely to have gone the way of the dodo bird<\/em>\u00bb),  nous dit Jim Lobe, dans une chronique du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/lobe\/?articleid=12380\" class=\"gen\">jour<\/a>, sur <em>Antiwar.com<\/em> et sur IPS.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tJim Lobe nous donne cette chronique sur le d\u00e9clin de la puissance US, mettant en \u00e9vidence qu&rsquo;aujourd&rsquo;hui le principal probl\u00e8me est de savoir comment Washington va g\u00e9rer ce d\u00e9clin,  faire en sorte qu&rsquo;il ne soit pas trop brutal, trop d\u00e9vastateur, etc.  Lisez ce passage de cette chronique, o\u00f9 Lobe rappelle les jappements d&rsquo;<em>hubris<\/em> des divers historiens et chroniqueurs appoint\u00e9s, il y a seulement 5 ans, et ce qu&rsquo;il en reste aujourd&rsquo;hui,  avec des noms comme Paul Kennedy, Krauthammer, Kagan,  tous ces intellectuels qui restent hautement respect\u00e9s en Europe comme experts imbattables. (On dirait que l&rsquo;erreur de la prospective semblant \u00eatre d\u00e9sormais la marque de la sagesse et du bon jugement Tous ces experts et historiens, apr\u00e8s s&rsquo;\u00eatre si compl\u00e8tement tromp\u00e9s en toutes choses, gardent pignon sur rue et sont aujourd&rsquo;hui comme hier consult\u00e9s avec un respect sans fin. M\u00e9ditez cette \u00e9trange r\u00e9alit\u00e9.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>At the time<\/em> [2002], <em>Kennedy himself suggested that Washington may have somehow escaped the laws of history, noting that the sheer size of the U.S. economy, and its technological prowess and military dominance, were unprecedented. I&rsquo;ve gone back in history and never seen anything like it, he exclaimed at one seminar.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>People are now coming out of the closet on the word empire,&rsquo; exulted Krauthammer. The fact is no country has been as dominant culturally, economically, technologically, and militarily in the history of the world since the Roman Empire.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>What a difference five years and an invasion and bungled occupation of Iraq make! References to the Roman Empire at this point are more likely to refer to its decline than to its power  an observation confirmed even by Donald Kagan, a dean of neoconservatism and Kennedy&rsquo;s colleague at Yale, whose sons, Robert and Frederick, have been champions of the Bush Doctrine and the Iraq War.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>I&rsquo;ve argued that not since the Roman Empire has anyone had such extraordinary power as the United States after the Cold War, Kagan told Kitfield. But all of the elements of our strength are now being challenged, and it&rsquo;s perfectly possible that we are seeing a relative decline in U.S. power that will prove lasting.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tDevant cet extraordinaire effondrement de la puissance am\u00e9ricaniste,  voil\u00e0 qui, en v\u00e9rit\u00e9, est sans pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent dans l&rsquo;Histoire, n&rsquo;est-ce pas Paul Kennedy, \u00ab<em>I&rsquo;ve gone back in history and never seen anything like it<\/em>\u00bb?  devant ce ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne, il y a aussi le cas europ\u00e9en. Nombre de commentateurs europ\u00e9ens, parfois relay\u00e9s par des lecteurs, ont rapport\u00e9 leur appr\u00e9ciation effray\u00e9e, leur alarme consid\u00e9rable devant <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=4895\" class=\"gen\">le cas<\/a> de Robert Gates, lors de la r\u00e9union des ministres de la d\u00e9fense des pays de l&rsquo;OTAN \u00e0 Vilnius au d\u00e9but du mois, manipulant les Europ\u00e9ens en exigeant d&rsquo;eux 7.000 hommes suppl\u00e9mentaires en Afghanistan. Vue d&rsquo;Europe, cette exigence est un complot, comme si l&rsquo;Europe ne pouvait se vivre sans \u00eatre \u00e9ternellement la victime expiatoire d&rsquo;un permanent et irr\u00e9sistible complot am\u00e9ricaniste. Lisez donc comment la chose est per\u00e7ue, du c\u00f4t\u00e9 am\u00e9ricaniste,  \u00e0 moins que Lobe lui-m\u00eame ne fasse partie du complot et ne nous conduise encore une fois dans les rets de notre propre servilit\u00e9?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>We are in a multipolar world, Defense Secretary Robert Gates told a Washington Post columnist recently in what has to be considered the ultimate heresy to pro-war hawks led by the likes of Vice President Dick Cheney and Gates&rsquo; predecessor, Donald Rumsfeld.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Indeed, last month&rsquo;s image of President George W. Bush imploring King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia to increase oil production to boost the battered U.S. economy helped bring home the notion that the commander in chief&rsquo;s word no longer serves as an imperial command.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>It&rsquo;s affected our families. Paying more for gasoline hurts some of the American families, Bush told reporters just before his meeting with the king. After the meeting Saudi Arabia&rsquo;s oil minister made clear that Riyadh would increase production only when the market justifies it and not before.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Almost as pathetic in their own way were the recent exhortations by Gates  the steward of a military establishment that spends more money each year than the combined defense budgets of all of the world&rsquo;s other nations  for Washington&rsquo;s NATO allies to contribute 7,000 more troops to help U.S. forces pacify Afghanistan six years after Rumsfeld and his neoconservative advisers contemptuously spurned their offers of help.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>That the response Gates received was not much more favorable than that delivered by Saudi Arabia&rsquo;s oil minister to Bush&rsquo;s entreaties spoke volumes not only about the way that his administration has both misunderstood and mishandled its global war on terror, but, more ominously, about the weakness and fragility of the alliance which Washington led to victory against the Soviet Union in the Cold War.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t(Notre avis est bien que l&rsquo;asservissement europ\u00e9en aux USA se trouve d&rsquo;abord dans la perception des Europ\u00e9ens, aussi bien les pro- que les anti-am\u00e9ricanistes, de la puissance US. Nous sommes les prisonniers de nos propres fantasmes \u00e0 propos de la puissance am\u00e9ricaniste, qui pour s&rsquo;y blottir d\u00e9licieusement en la jurant infinie, qui pour la d\u00e9tester d&rsquo;autant plus rageusement que c&rsquo;est par avance sans espoir de la voir s&rsquo;abaisser puisqu&rsquo;elle ne cesse de comploter avec succ\u00e8s. L&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique serait-elle l&rsquo;excuse supr\u00eame des Europ\u00e9ens pour \u00e9carter le poids du constat que les conceptions modernistes que l&rsquo;Europe a impos\u00e9es au monde constituent l&rsquo;\u00e9chec le plus accablant qu&rsquo;ait connu l&rsquo;Histoire? Il y a de cela dans nos accusations contre l&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique,  \u00e0 cause des d\u00e9g\u00e2ts caus\u00e9s par sa puissance immorale,  et notre fascination de l&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique,  notre incapacit\u00e9 d&rsquo;accepter son d\u00e9clin d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on ou l&rsquo;autre; tout se passe comme si l&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique portait, dans notre perception, \u00e0 la fois la responsabilit\u00e9 d&rsquo;avoir galvaud\u00e9 nos valeurs modernistes, et l&rsquo;ultime preuve que ces valeurs sont tout de m\u00eame sup\u00e9rieures au reste.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 18 f\u00e9vrier 2008 \u00e0 12H49<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La notion que les USA font ce qu&rsquo;ils veulent, o\u00f9 ils veulent, comme ils veulent, est largement renvoy\u00e9e dans le rayon des accessoires, du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des dodo bird (\u00ab seems largely to have gone the way of the dodo bird\u00bb), nous dit Jim Lobe, dans une chronique du jour, sur Antiwar.com et sur IPS. 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