{"id":69916,"date":"2008-05-23T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-23T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/05\/23\/torture-le-congres-nen-a-rien-a-cirer\/"},"modified":"2008-05-23T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-23T00:00:00","slug":"torture-le-congres-nen-a-rien-a-cirer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/05\/23\/torture-le-congres-nen-a-rien-a-cirer\/","title":{"rendered":"Torture? Le Congr\u00e8s n&rsquo;en a rien \u00e0 cirer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Cette sorte de sc\u00e8ne vaut tout un long discours, bien des analyses savantes, nombre de plaidoiries passionn\u00e9es, et elle doit \u00eatre offerte en cadeau aux quelques amoureux de l&rsquo;<em>American Dream<\/em> qui subsistent, surtout en France \u00e9videmment (qui viennent parfois nous rendre visite, la civilit\u00e9 en sautoir et la morale en boucle). Il s&rsquo;agit de l&rsquo;audition par t\u00e9l\u00e9vid\u00e9o, devant une commission de la Chambre des Repr\u00e9sentants, d&rsquo;un Allemand d&rsquo;origine turc qui a pass\u00e9 pr\u00e8s de 5 ans dans les prisons US, d&rsquo;Afghanistan \u00e0 la fameuse g\u00e9\u00f4le de Guantanamo, avant d&rsquo;\u00eatre relach\u00e9 puisqu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;a pas r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 d\u00e9couvrir le crime pour lequel on l&rsquo;avait emprisonn\u00e9. Murat Kurnaz \u00e9tait bien c\u00f4t\u00e9: les USA avaient pay\u00e9 $3.000 \u00e0 l&rsquo;automne 2001 pour se le faire livrer par le Pakistan. Suivit l&rsquo;habituel cort\u00e8ge d&rsquo;horreurs <em>made in USA<\/em>. Kurnaz \u00e9tait depuis longtemps reconnu inapte au r\u00f4le de coupable mais on continua \u00e0 le tourmenter, au cas o\u00f9 l&rsquo;imbroglio kafka\u00efesque de ces imb\u00e9ciles born\u00e9s d\u00e9boucherait sur quelque part (\u00ab<em>US authorities determined in 2002 that Kurnaz had no terror links, but claimed that he remained a danger because one of his friends had committed a suicide attack  even though the friend in question is alive, and has never been found to have terror ties.<\/em>\u00bb)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tMais ce qui nous arr\u00eate, c&rsquo;est la r\u00e9ception du t\u00e9moignage par la commission du Congr\u00e8s. Une d\u00e9p\u00eache AFP, par <em>Yahoo<\/em> le <a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/s\/afp\/uscongressgermanyturkeyattacksjustice&#038;printer=1;_ylt=Ai2Y491Eq0Gppt6v2CYjO66tOrgF\" class=\"gen\">21 mai<\/a>, nous en informe.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Kurnaz, his hair trimmed short and dressed in a black suit, gripped his notes and began to speak, but a technical difficulty prevented the audio from reaching Washington.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Some reporters and members of the public gave up waiting, but after around a half hour Kurnaz was able to be heard  and he recounted some of the horrific details of his travail.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t(&#8230;)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Facing the screen, the majority of seats for committee members sat empty. Barely half a dozen lawmakers came to listen to the former detainee, and most were unable to remember his name, with one even calling him Mr. Karzai.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The first to speak after Kurnaz was finished was ranking member on the committee, Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, who expressed doubts about the testimony and recalled that the United States was at war and needed to protect itself even at the price of making some errors.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>And when it came to the question of where ex-inmates should go when their home country refuses them, Rohrabacher said: I would suggest that any of our allies who have criticized the US should take some of them themselves.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPuisqu&rsquo;il fallait bien enfin que quelqu&rsquo;un tent\u00e2t de rattraper cette p\u00e9nible s\u00e9ance, ce fut le d\u00e9mocrate Nadler qui s&rsquo;en chargea. Simplement, on esp\u00e8re qu&rsquo;il pensait ce qu&rsquo;il disait: \u00ab<em>The people who tortured you were committing crimes under American law. I hope in the next few years these people will be held accountable. I wanted in the name of the United States to express for you my regrets and my apologies.<\/em>\u00bb La d\u00e9p\u00eache note qu&rsquo;il y eut quelques timides applaudissements dans le public.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl n&rsquo;y a pas de moment plus significatif du caract\u00e8re ind\u00e9cent, grossier et arrogant de la psychologie am\u00e9ricaniste, chez ceux qui sont les repr\u00e9sentants du syst\u00e8me les plus assur\u00e9s de leur propre vertu. Ces attitudes valent effectivement tous les r\u00e9quisitoires du monde. Elles montrent qu&rsquo;il existe une certaine impossibilit\u00e9 d&rsquo;\u00e9tablir des rapports acceptables avec des gens dont la psychologie est aussi compl\u00e8tement pervertie, qui ne trouvent pas la d\u00e9cence de s&rsquo;int\u00e9resser \u00e0 une existence massacr\u00e9e, dans la plus compl\u00e8te ill\u00e9galit\u00e9 et une cruaut\u00e9 \u00e9tal\u00e9e sans \u00e9tat d&rsquo;\u00e2me, par le syst\u00e8me dont eux-m\u00eames sont les cr\u00e9atures.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=2679\" class=\"gen\">inculpabilit\u00e9<\/a> US (que nous avions justement mise en \u00e9vidence \u00e0 propos de la torture) est particuli\u00e8rement insupportable lorsqu&rsquo;elle prend le visage de nouveau riche inculte qui est en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral celui des parlementaires US. On ignore si la d\u00e9mocratie est le pire des r\u00e9gimes sauf qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;y a pas d&rsquo;autre mais on sait bien qu&rsquo;elle est sans doute la seule \u00e0 procurer cette sorte d&rsquo;arrogance patin\u00e9e d&rsquo;une vertu qui va de soi, d&rsquo;un parlementaire US n&rsquo;\u00e9coutant pas le t\u00e9moignage d&rsquo;un homme qui a subi pendant 5 ans les prisons et la torture de son propre syst\u00e8me, en toute ill\u00e9galit\u00e9, en toute impunit\u00e9, pour un crime ind\u00e9fini qui n&rsquo;a pas eu lieu. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 23 mai 2008 \u00e0 13H34<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cette sorte de sc\u00e8ne vaut tout un long discours, bien des analyses savantes, nombre de plaidoiries passionn\u00e9es, et elle doit \u00eatre offerte en cadeau aux quelques amoureux de l&rsquo;American Dream qui subsistent, surtout en France \u00e9videmment (qui viennent parfois nous rendre visite, la civilit\u00e9 en sautoir et la morale en boucle). Il s&rsquo;agit de l&rsquo;audition&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[3285,3634,7591,4281],"class_list":["post-69916","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-congres","tag-inculpabilite","tag-kurnaz","tag-torture"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69916","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=69916"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/69916\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=69916"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=69916"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=69916"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}