{"id":69921,"date":"2008-05-26T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2008-05-26T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/05\/26\/gw-comme-pinochet\/"},"modified":"2008-05-26T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2008-05-26T00:00:00","slug":"gw-comme-pinochet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/05\/26\/gw-comme-pinochet\/","title":{"rendered":"GW comme Pinochet?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dans un petit village du Pays de Galles nomm\u00e9 Hay, a lieu un festival r\u00e9gulier, organis\u00e9 notamment par le Guardian<\/em>. C’est un festival culturel \u00e0 forte orientation politique, o\u00f9 l’on s’autorise diverses activit\u00e9s subversives qu’on pourrait identifier comme proche, dans l’esprit, notamment des altermondialistes, des \u00e9cologistes, etc. Cette ann\u00e9e<\/a>, au Hay Festival 2008, un des invites vedette fut Jimmy Carter, pour la rubrique Fantasy American President<\/em> (l’invit\u00e9, \u00e0 qui il est donn\u00e9 comme r\u00e8gle principale de se figurer comme pr\u00e9sident US \u00e0 la place de Bush, est invit\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00e9noncer son programme).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tJonathan Freedland, qui fait rapport de cette affaire dans le Guardian<\/em> du 25 mai<\/a>, explique comment on peut regretter que le futur pr\u00e9sident des USA ne soit pas Jimmy Carter, 83 ans:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abTonight Hay offered a new collective prayer: if only we could have a man like Jimmy Carter back in the Oval Office. Now 83 years old, the former president so often mocked by his countrymen and a victim of what he called an involuntary retirement when he was booted out in 1980 held his audience spellbound as he set out a radically alternative vision of America’s place in the world. <\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t(Il y eut dix minutes d’expos\u00e9 d’un programme, que certains habitu\u00e9s du conformisme jugerait radical, du futur pr\u00e9sident Jimmy Carter : \u00abWhen I’m the president of the United States, my country will never again torture a prisoner. When I’m the president of the United States, we will never again attack another country unless our security is directly threatened. When I’m the president of the United States, human rights will be the foundation of our foreign policy.<\/em>\u00bb)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tNous nous arr\u00eatons \u00e0 un point annexe mais qui nous semble important, selon l’observation et \u00e0 l’invitation de Freedland lui-m\u00eame. Il concerne une question qui fut pos\u00e9e \u00e0 Carter par l’intervieweur, le Conseiller de la Reine, Philippe Sands<\/a>, professeur de Droit et critique juridique constant de certains aspects de la politique US, notamment la pratique de la torture.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abThe most intriguing exchange came when interviewer Philippe Sands QC pressed the former president on whether George W Bush, who recently admitted authorising interrogation procedures widely seen as amounting to torture, could face prosecution for war crimes. Carter replied that he hoped Bush would live a peaceful productive life in our country. Sands told me afterwards that he understood that as clear confirmation that while Bush would face no challenge in his own country, what happened outside the country was another matter entirely.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbJimmy Carter was at pains not to spell it out too directly proof that while he may be a former president, he is still very much a politician.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tIl s’agit d’une indication tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressante. Carter est politiquement tr\u00e8s actif, comme l’on sait. Il entretient des relations suivies avec diverses milieux et structures d’opposition \u00e0 la politique am\u00e9ricaniste, notamment des structures \u00e0 finalit\u00e9 juridique. Il semble manifeste, avec cette intervention, que Carter est inform\u00e9 de projets juridiques s\u00e9rieux \u00e0 l’encontre de Bush, essentiellement apr\u00e8s qu’il aura quitt\u00e9 la pr\u00e9sidence. Pour r\u00e9sumer l’id\u00e9e, il pourrait s’agir d’actions de la sorte de celle qui fut lanc\u00e9e contre le g\u00e9n\u00e9ral Pinochet.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tC’est un point qui va au-del\u00e0 du symbolique ou de la seule revendication du point de vue du droit, un point qui a une dimension politique. Un ancien pr\u00e9sident des USA n’est pas un ancien pr\u00e9sident chilien, d’autant qu’aucune contestation du point de vue politique formel ne serait intervenue aux USA contre lui dans l’hypoth\u00e8se \u00e9voqu\u00e9e. Si une action juridique \u00e9tait lanc\u00e9e contre l’actuel pr\u00e9sident au terme de son mandat, et relay\u00e9e par une structure de justice ou l’autre, nationale ou internationale, il s’agirait tr\u00e8s vite d’un cas politique impliquant officiellement les USA. Il s’agirait d’un cas d\u00e9licat pour Washington, dans la mesure o\u00f9 un dossier Bush conduirait \u00e0 une obligation d’examen critique de sa politique, qui reste la politique officielle des USA. Une attaque juridique contre Bush pour crimes de guerre risquerait fort de devenir tr\u00e8s vite une attaque contre la politique ext\u00e9rieure US.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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\tMis en ligne le 26 mai 2008 \u00e0 08H57<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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