{"id":70069,"date":"2008-07-25T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-25T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/07\/25\/obama-est-il-un-fuhrer-ou-un-juan-peron-ou-un-fdr\/"},"modified":"2008-07-25T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2008-07-25T00:00:00","slug":"obama-est-il-un-fuhrer-ou-un-juan-peron-ou-un-fdr","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/07\/25\/obama-est-il-un-fuhrer-ou-un-juan-peron-ou-un-fdr\/","title":{"rendered":"Obama est-il un \u201cFuhrer\u201d, ou un Juan Peron, \u2026 ou un FDR?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Pendant que le candidat d\u00e9mocrate Barack Obama ravit les foules allemandes comme s’il \u00e9tait d\u00e9j\u00e0 pr\u00e9sident des USA et JFK r\u00e9incarn\u00e9, Ben Stein<\/a>, speechwriter<\/em> de Nixon et de Ford devenu acteur et pr\u00e9sentateur de TV, pr\u00e9sente quelques jugements assassins sur le comportement \u00e9lectoral du m\u00eame Obama. Cela se passait sur CNN, le 23 juillet (l’\u00e9mission Headline News<\/em>, de Glenn Beck), comme le rapporte MediaMatters.org<\/em> le 24 juillet<\/a>. La discussion portait sur la d\u00e9cision du parti d\u00e9mocrate, annonc\u00e9e le 7 juillet<\/a>, d’ouvrir au public les portes de la Convention de nomination du parti, le mois prochain \u00e0 Denver, lors du discours d’investiture d’Obama. On attend alors une foule d’au moins 75.000 personnes, qu’on nous promet absolument d\u00e9cha\u00een\u00e9e par un enthousiasme consid\u00e9rable et marqu\u00e9 par une \u00e9motion intense.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abBen Stein<\/em> [] stated that he did not like the idea of Senator Obama giving his acceptance speech in front of 75,000 wildly cheering people because [t]hat is not the way we do things in political parties in the United States of America. Stein continued: Seventy-five-thousand people at an outdoor sports palace, well, that’s something the Fuehrer would have done. And I think whoever is advising Senator Obama to do this is bringing up all kinds of very unfortunate images from the past.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbHost Beck: responded that he has been saying that we’re headed towards a Mussolini-style presidency forever. … I mean it’s crazy. Stein then declared, It’s a scary situation. … But 75,000 people screaming in an outdoor arena, that’s just too much. It’s just it’s scarily authoritarian. He continued: It’s like Juan Peron and Evita.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbStein is not the first guest on Glenn Beck to compare Obama to Adolf Hitler. On February 22, National Review Online editor-at-large Jonah Goldberg said: I think one of the things that is decidedly fascistic, or at least just a bad idea, is looking for silver bullets. You know, when Barack Obama campaigns, he’s basically saying, I’m a silver bullet. I’m going to solve all your problems just by electing me.’ FDR, Hitler, all these guys, they basically said, All your problems can be solved.’<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tPour plus de pr\u00e9cisions, MediaMatters.org<\/em> nous offre la transcription du dialogue.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tSTEIN<\/em><\/strong>: I want I’m glad you brought up this Denver thing. I don’t like the idea of Senator Obama giving his acceptance speech in front of 75,000 wildly cheering people. That is not the way we do things in political parties in the United States of America. We have a contained number of people in an arena. Seventy-five-thousand people at an outdoor sports palace, well, that’s something the Fuehrer would have done. And I think whoever is advising Senator Obama to do this is bringing up all kinds of very unfortunate images from the past.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tBECK<\/em><\/strong>: Well, yeah, you know what? I’ve been — I’ve been saying that we’re headed towards a Mussolini-style presidency forever.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tSTEIN<\/em><\/strong>: Well, I think —<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tBECK<\/em><\/strong>: I mean it’s crazy.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tSTEIN<\/em><\/strong>: It’s a scary situation. I mean, I think he has to recognize some bounds on his own ego. I understand politicians are politicians because they have ego deficit problems and they try to cure them by having lots of worship and adulation and adoration. But 75,000 people screaming at an outdoor arena, that’s just too much. It’s just — it’s scarily authoritarian.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tBECK<\/em><\/strong>: Ben<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tSTEIN<\/em><\/strong>: It’s like Juan Peron<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tBECK<\/em><\/strong>: It’s not <\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tSTEIN<\/em><\/strong>: and Evita.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tBECK<\/em><\/strong>: It’s not gonna make a difference.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tCe sont d’int\u00e9ressantes comparaisons qui sont faites \u00e0 propos d’Obama, des comparaisons certes pol\u00e9miques mais qui ne sont pas sans certaines justifications. Il est vrai qu’Obama a, pendant sa campagne des primaires, adopt\u00e9 un ton populiste et un style \u00e9motionnel, voire quasi messianique et proph\u00e9tique, qui a trouv\u00e9 un relais particuli\u00e8rement significatif dans le comportement du public, notamment le public noir. Dans notre F&C<\/em> du 8 f\u00e9vrier 2008<\/a>, nous notions :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abJustement, Obama. Le s\u00e9nateur de l’Illinois est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 comme envahi d’une confiance exceptionnelle dans sa destin\u00e9e politique, c’est-\u00e0-dire sa d\u00e9signation par le parti d\u00e9mocrate et sa victoire en novembre prochain. David Usborne d\u00e9crit, dans The Independent d’aujourd’hui, la visite du s\u00e9nateur-candidat \u00e0 La Nouvelle Orl\u00e9ans, cette ville-symbole de la rupture entre le syst\u00e8me et les citoyens, des citoyens parmi les plus d\u00e9favoris\u00e9s en ce lieu, et Africains-Am\u00e9ricains de surcro\u00eet… A man who sounds like a winner already […] a new Barack Obama, liberated from the anxiety of the multiple Super Tuesday contests, buoyed by the realisation that the knock-out punch that Hillary Clinton had once predicted for herself that day had not come to pass and energised by the new flood of cash being given to his campaign. (Il s’agit des $7,2 millions recueillis par Obama en deux jours apr\u00e8s le Super Tuesday.) Cette supr\u00eame confiance est non seulement partag\u00e9e par ses partisans qui l’acclament \u00e0 La Nouvelle Orl\u00e9ans, elle est transcend\u00e9e en un enthousiasme que Usborne d\u00e9crit lui-m\u00eame, a-t-il lu Joe Klein? avec des termes qui renvoient \u00e0 la musique de jazz ou au langage des cultes: The near-messianic cadences… des manifestations d’enthousiasme saluant Obama.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tOn conclura qu’Obama n’a pas abandonn\u00e9 sa m\u00e9thode malgr\u00e9 les appr\u00e9ciations critiques et que le parti d\u00e9mocrate entend l’utiliser \u00e0 fond lors de la convention d\u00e9mocrate. Les experts d\u00e9mocrates de la communication ont conclu que c’est le meilleur moyen d’assurer sa victoire; si Obama devient un candidat comme les autres, pensent-ils, il risque de se trouver expos\u00e9 aux effets de ses handicaps naturels chez l’\u00e9lectorat US (le fait qu’il soit Africain Am\u00e9ricain, pour les \u00e9lecteurs blancs). Au contraire, le rythme actuel, avec toutes ses d\u00e9rives d\u00e9magogiques et autres, est fait pour emporter l’\u00e9motion et r\u00e9duire ces m\u00eames handicaps \u00e0 peu de choses. Il y a l\u00e0 une cause tactique, qui, en m\u00eame temps, risque de rencontrer, de justifier et de magnifier un style de tribun qui suscite de graves soup\u00e7ons chez divers commentateurs US. La chose peut avoir des cons\u00e9quences politiques.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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\tMis en ligne le 25 juillet 2008 \u00e0 11H40<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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