{"id":70078,"date":"2008-07-29T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-29T00:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/07\/29\/la-guerre-dafghanistan-emprisonne-le-futur-president\/"},"modified":"2008-07-29T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"2008-07-29T00:00:00","slug":"la-guerre-dafghanistan-emprisonne-le-futur-president","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/07\/29\/la-guerre-dafghanistan-emprisonne-le-futur-president\/","title":{"rendered":"La guerre d&rsquo;Afghanistan emprisonne le futur pr\u00e9sident"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Ainsi s&rsquo;av\u00e8re-t-il de plus en plus \u00e9vident que Barack Obama, quasi-d&rsquo;ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0 pr\u00e9sident, ou McCain, sans doute pr\u00e9sident si l&rsquo;occasion se pr\u00e9sentait, va s&rsquo;engager sur la voie du changement de champ de bataille prioritaire, passant de l&rsquo;Irak \u00e0 l&rsquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article.php?art_id=5302\" class=\"gen\">Afghanistan<\/a>. Par cons\u00e9quent, cette \u00e9volution en train de se faire int\u00e9resse les commentateurs, qui s&rsquo;interrogent pour savoir de quelle guerre il s&rsquo;agit, pourquoi elle est faite, \u00e0 quoi elle sert et ainsi de suite. Les questions qui tuent, en un sens, puisqu&rsquo;elles conduisent \u00e0 s&rsquo;interroger pour savoir si cette guerre a un sens.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous retenons deux de ces commentateurs, pour pr\u00e9senter par leur interm\u00e9diaire deux axes d&rsquo;appr\u00e9ciations \u00e9videmment critiques de cet engagement US.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Pourquoi cette guerre? s&rsquo;interroge William Pfaff le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.williampfaff.com\/modules\/news\/article.php?storyid=330\" class=\"gen\">22 juillet<\/a>. Quel sens et quelle n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 Obama lui trouve-t-il? Que fait l&rsquo;OTAN dans ce pays? Pourquoi se battre contre les talibans alors que ce sont les terroristes d&rsquo;Al Qa\u00efda que l&rsquo;on recherche?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>I am more inclined to think, with regret, that Obama has swallowed Washington&rsquo;s Kool Aid on Afghanistan and Pakistan: that Force is the only thing Natives understand. This would seem surprising, given that he saw the trap in Iraq from the start, and knows what happened to the U.S. in Viet Nam. But he certainly sounds as if he thinks he has located the answer to the war on terror. <\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>At least in Vietnam one fought the actual enemy. In Pakistan-Afghanistan one is playing billiards. The U.S. threatens the Pakistanis; that is expected to make them do bad things to the Taliban; so that the Taliban then hand over Osama bin Ladin.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Al Qaeda is mainly Saudi Arabian and Arab. The Taliban are not terrorists; they have never attacked the United States or European NATO. They just want their country back. They were running Afghanistan when the Americans came in 2001.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>They are not people you and I want to govern us. They oppress women, ban higher education, and apply Sharia law. But that surely is the Afghan people&rsquo;s problem. They let the Taliban take over their country in 1996, and perhaps they are ready to do so again. What has this to do with NATO?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>As for al Qaeda and the terrorists, even if the Taliban won&rsquo;t turn them in to the U.S., and the Pakistan army can&rsquo;t or won&rsquo;t catch them, it would seem madness for NATO to attack or invade the Tribal Territories. Western armies throughout history have fared badly in the Pakistan-Afghanistan badlands.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Anyway, Osama bin Laden and his men have a lot of other places where they can go. They have only to pack their bags and vanish. They can expect a lot of help. They don&rsquo;t have to let themselves get pinned down in Waziristan. <\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Patrick Buchanan choisit une autre approche (sur <em>Antiwar.com<\/em>, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.antiwar.com\/pat\/?articleid=13218\" class=\"gen\">29 juillet<\/a>). Il s&rsquo;interroge plut\u00f4t sur la destin\u00e9e de cette guerre, du point de vue am\u00e9ricaniste, et lui trouve bien des similitudes avec le Vietnam, bien plus que l&rsquo;Irak. Pour lui, Obama devenu pr\u00e9sident, si c&rsquo;est la destin\u00e9e que se choisit l&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique, sera conduit \u00e0 faire comme Johnson,  engager de plus en plus de troupes (l&rsquo;escalade) pour un r\u00e9sultat toujours insaisissable, le Pakistan jouant le r\u00f4le du Nord-Vietnam par rapport au Sud-Vietnam. (Ce qui nous conduit d&rsquo;ailleurs aux m\u00eames in\u00e9vitables questions sans r\u00e9ponses: \u00ab<em>Is a vital U.S. interest imperiled here? Do we have a defined and attainable objective? Have the risks and costs been fully weighed? Is there an exit strategy? Is the war supported by a united nation?<\/em>\u00bb) Sur l&rsquo;analogie Afghanistan-Vietnam:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>We have to be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in, says Barack Obama of the U.S. war in Iraq. Wise counsel.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>But is Barack taking his own advice? For he pledges to shift two U.S. combat brigades, 10,000 troops, out of Iraq and into Afghanistan, raising American forces in that country from 33,000 to 43,000.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Why does Barack think a surge of 10,000 troops will succeed in winning a war in which we have failed to prevail after seven years of fighting? How many more troops is he prepared to commit? Is the Obama commitment open-ended?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>For, without any visible strategy for victory, Barack is recommending the same course LBJ took after the death of JFK. Johnson bombed North Vietnam in 1964, landed Marines in 1965 and built U.S. forces from 16,000 advisers on Nov. 22, 1963, to 525,000 troops in January of 1969.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Gradual escalation, which is exactly what Barack is recommending.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>LBJ never thought through to the end game: how to break Hanoi, withdraw and leave a South peaceful, prosperous and pro-American.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Has Barack thought his way through to how this war ends in victory and we withdraw all U.S. ground troops from Afghanistan? For this writer cannot see anywhere on the horizon any such ending.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>If the old rule applies  the guerrilla wins if he does not lose  the United States, about to enter its eighth year of combat, is losing. And, using the old 10-to-one ratio of regular troops needed to defeat guerrillas, if the Taliban can recruit 1,000 new fighters, they can see Obama&rsquo;s two-brigade bet, and raise him. Just as Uncle Ho raised LBJ again and again.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAinsi en est-il de plus en plus de ce changement de strat\u00e9gie  de l&rsquo;Irak vers l&rsquo;Afghanistan. Il est de plus en plus identifi\u00e9 \u00e0 Obama et l&rsquo;Afghanistan devient de plus en la guerre d&rsquo;Obama; avant m\u00eame qu&rsquo;il soit \u00e9lu pr\u00e9sident (au fait, le sera-t-il?), Obama, s&rsquo;il n&rsquo;y prend garde, va \u00eatre de plus en plus identifi\u00e9 \u00e0 cette guerre, de plus en plus pieds et poings li\u00e9s au destin de cette guerre. C&rsquo;est une \u00e9trange alchimie qui s&rsquo;\u00e9bauche, qui n&rsquo;aurait pas de pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent dans sa rapidit\u00e9 et dans sa chronologie.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tQuelques rares commentateurs, plus habiles dans l&rsquo;appr\u00e9ciation des constructions rationnelles, font un grand cr\u00e9dit \u00e0 Obama en voyant au contraire dans sa d\u00e9marche, et paradoxalement, une habile d\u00e9marche anti-guerre. Pfaff cite Gwynne Dyer: \u00ab<em>The broadcaster and commentator Gwynne Dyer suggests, in an article in Arab News (in Jeddah), that Barack Obama&rsquo;s promise to reinforce American troops in Afghanistan, and to attack Pakistan&rsquo;s frontier territories if the Pakistan authorities won&rsquo;t control its radical tribesmen (which they never have been able to do, and for the most part, wisely, do not attempt to do), is a political smokescreen covering his intended withdrawal from Iraq. He can&rsquo;t be accused of weakness on Iraq and Iran if he is enlarging the war in Afghanistan and attacking Pakistan. <\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;explication de Gwynne Dyer fait la part belle au machiav\u00e9lisme ang\u00e9lique et \u00e0 l&rsquo;habilet\u00e9 visionnaire d&rsquo;Obama, et surtout \u00e0 une exceptionnelle ma\u00eetrise de l&rsquo;action tactique qui serait n\u00e9cessaire pour conduire une telle manuvre. On verra,  quoiqu&rsquo;on ait envie d&rsquo;ajouter: c&rsquo;est tout vu. C&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;il y a la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 de la guerre qui impose son rythme, alors que les engagements actuels d&rsquo;Obama, quelles qu&rsquo;en soient les intentions cach\u00e9es, sont en train de verrouiller le candidat d\u00e9mocrate qu&rsquo;il est encore dans la perspective de la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de poursuivre la guerre dans la forme que go\u00fbte habituellement la conception am\u00e9ricaniste de la chose: jusquau bout, jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 la capitulation sans conditions. L&rsquo;hypoth\u00e8se de Dyer impliquerait, au contraire, qu&rsquo;on puisse rompre \u00e0 un moment cette logique pour entamer des pourparlers qui conduiraient \u00e0 un compromis faisant n\u00e9cessairement la partie belle aux talibans.  On ne voit gu\u00e8re une situation \u00e0 Washington, avec un nouveau pr\u00e9sident, qui puisse favoriser une telle issue.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes tambours de la guerre en Afghanistan battant pour \u00e9loigner du pi\u00e8ge de l&rsquo;Irak, au moment d&rsquo;ailleurs o\u00f9 ce pi\u00e8ge desserre ses dents, conduisent tout droit \u00e0 une sorte de n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 guerri\u00e8re en Afghanistan. En plus qu&rsquo;Obama soit en train de devenir le pr\u00e9sident de la guerre en Afghanistan,  avant d&rsquo;\u00eatre pr\u00e9sident et \u00e0 condition qu&rsquo;il le soit!  c&rsquo;est le rythme m\u00eame de la guerre d&rsquo;Afghanistan qui est en train de s&rsquo;imposer dans la politique centrale du syst\u00e8me am\u00e9ricaniste,  au reste, quel que soit le pr\u00e9sident. Dr\u00f4le d&rsquo;alchimie.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 29 juillet 2008 \u00e0 14H24<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ainsi s&rsquo;av\u00e8re-t-il de plus en plus \u00e9vident que Barack Obama, quasi-d&rsquo;ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0 pr\u00e9sident, ou McCain, sans doute pr\u00e9sident si l&rsquo;occasion se pr\u00e9sentait, va s&rsquo;engager sur la voie du changement de champ de bataille prioritaire, passant de l&rsquo;Irak \u00e0 l&rsquo;Afghanistan. Par cons\u00e9quent, cette \u00e9volution en train de se faire int\u00e9resse les commentateurs, qui s&rsquo;interrogent pour&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[3236,3335,2645,4063,6208,3379,1131,1010],"class_list":["post-70078","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-afghanistan","tag-buchanan","tag-guerre","tag-mccain","tag-obama","tag-pakistan","tag-pfaff","tag-vietnam"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70078","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=70078"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70078\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70078"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70078"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70078"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}