{"id":70272,"date":"2008-10-13T13:59:01","date_gmt":"2008-10-13T13:59:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/10\/13\/parler-aux-talibans-avec-des-arriere-pensees\/"},"modified":"2008-10-13T13:59:01","modified_gmt":"2008-10-13T13:59:01","slug":"parler-aux-talibans-avec-des-arriere-pensees","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/10\/13\/parler-aux-talibans-avec-des-arriere-pensees\/","title":{"rendered":"Parler aux talibans avec des arri\u00e8re-pens\u00e9es?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Il y a beaucoup de rumeurs tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9cises de pourparlers avec les talibans. Dans un premier temps, des suggestions britanniques en faveur de cette possibilit\u00e9 ont amen\u00e9 une certaine tension avec les USA. Cette tension devrait \u00eatre en voie d&rsquo;effacement si l&rsquo;on en croit ce qui suit,  ou bien s&rsquo;agit-il simplement d&rsquo;une intervention personnelle de Robert Gates, cit\u00e9 ci-apr\u00e8s, qui ne repr\u00e9senterait pas pour autant l&rsquo;avis de l&rsquo;administration Bush elle-m\u00eame, puisque la chose existerait encore? Dans tous les cas, Gates a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que l&rsquo;on pouvait effectivement envisager de tels pourparler avec les talibans sous certaines conditions,  selon le <em>Financial Times<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ft.com\/cms\/s\/0\/66faed7a-9666-11dd-9dce-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1\" class=\"gen\">9 octobre<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, said last night that Washington could ultimately contemplate the idea of negotiating with the Taliban to secure a political settlement in Afghanistan, if the Afghan government were to pursue such talks.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>In comments that add to the growing sense across Nato that the alliance will never achieve a comprehensive military victory in Afghanistan, Mr Gates said a political settlement with the Taliban was conceivable.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>However, he insisted the US would never negotiate with al-Qaeda forces, who are also seeking to destabilise Hamid Karzai&rsquo;s Afghan government. There has to be ultimately, and I&rsquo;ll underscore ultimately, reconciliation as part of a political outcome to this, Mr Gates told reporters at a summit of Nato defence ministers in Budapest. That&rsquo;s ultimately the exit strategy for all of us.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCette prise de position de Robert Gates,  il est important que ce soit lui qui parle, en l&rsquo;occurrence,  pourrait avoir un rapport avec de nouvelles circonstances pressantes qui affectent le Pentagone, et qui concerneront particuli\u00e8rement la future administration. La crise financi\u00e8re avec ses r\u00e9percussions budg\u00e9taires commence \u00e0 faire admettre que les r\u00e9percussions sur le budget du Pentagone seront r\u00e9elles et peut-\u00eatre profondes. Les cons\u00e9quences envisag\u00e9es porteraient sur les missions et les engagements US, selon divers experts. (Selon Travis Sharp, un analyste du Center for Arms Control Policy, parlant \u00e0 <em>Defense News<\/em> le 10 octobre: \u00ab<em>The Department of Defense is no longer going to have the luxury of not having to make choices. They are going to have to start making some real decisions about what are the core missions for the United States military and the world, where are American interests fundamentally threatened, where do we need to be operating.<\/em>\u00bb)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tC&rsquo;est dans ce contexte qu&rsquo;on devait consid\u00e9rer la prise de position de Robert Gates, pour lui donner tout son sens. Le secr\u00e9taire \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense a de fortes chances de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-avec_obama_gates_succedera_a_gates_au_pentagone_03_10_2008.html\" class=\"gen\">rester \u00e0 son poste<\/a> si Obama est \u00e9lu, et Obama a de fortes chances d&rsquo;\u00eatre \u00e9lu. Dans ce cas, Gates a de fortes chances (?) de devoir administrer une situation <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-un_modele_pour_la_reforme_du_pentagone_13_10_2008.html\" class=\"gen\">tr\u00e8s difficile<\/a>, avec un programme probable de r\u00e9formes fondamentales et des r\u00e9ductions budg\u00e9taires. La r\u00e9duction des engagements pour r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 ces restrictions budg\u00e9taires probables pourrait effectivement impliquer la recherche d&rsquo;un retrait tr\u00e8s rapide d&rsquo;Afghanistan,  et des n\u00e9gociations avec les talibans seraient une approche \u00e9vidente de la question.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tBien entendu, cette orientation va contre les engagements des candidats, notamment Obama qui a promis une intensification des op\u00e9rations en Afghanistan, \u00e9ventuellement des interventions contre le Pakistan, notamment avec des renforts US en m\u00eame temps que le volume de l&rsquo;U.S. Army et du Marine Corps serait augment\u00e9 de 90.000 hommes. Mais la crise implique des conditions compl\u00e8tement nouvelles, et ces engagements de la campagne \u00e9lectorale pourraient \u00eatre tr\u00e8s rapidement oubli\u00e9s.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 13 octobre 2008 \u00e0 14H02<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Il y a beaucoup de rumeurs tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9cises de pourparlers avec les talibans. Dans un premier temps, des suggestions britanniques en faveur de cette possibilit\u00e9 ont amen\u00e9 une certaine tension avec les USA. Cette tension devrait \u00eatre en voie d&rsquo;effacement si l&rsquo;on en croit ce qui suit, ou bien s&rsquo;agit-il simplement d&rsquo;une intervention personnelle de&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[3236,3984,6208,3194,4849,5522],"class_list":["post-70272","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-afghanistan","tag-gates","tag-obama","tag-pentagone","tag-retrait","tag-taliban"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70272","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=70272"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70272\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70272"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70272"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70272"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}