{"id":70383,"date":"2008-12-05T19:49:17","date_gmt":"2008-12-05T19:49:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/12\/05\/la-chute-infernale-dans-la-depression\/"},"modified":"2008-12-05T19:49:17","modified_gmt":"2008-12-05T19:49:17","slug":"la-chute-infernale-dans-la-depression","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2008\/12\/05\/la-chute-infernale-dans-la-depression\/","title":{"rendered":"La chute infernale dans la d\u00e9pression"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Le chiffre a frapp\u00e9 les milieux dirigeants am\u00e9ricanistes autant que le public: 533.000 emplois perdus aux USA en novembre 2008, le pire chiffre enregistr\u00e9 pour un mois depuis plus de 30 ans (depuis d\u00e9cembre 1974).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes indications sont d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on g\u00e9n\u00e9rale tr\u00e8s inqui\u00e9tantes particuli\u00e8rement pour ce qui concerne le rythme de la crise.  Le <em>Financial Times<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ft.com\/cms\/s\/0\/d7c916cc-c2cf-11dd-a5ae-000077b07658.html\" class=\"gen\">5 d\u00e9cembre<\/a> rapporte les commentaires de pr\u00e9sentation du rapport mensuel du Bureau des Statistiques de l&rsquo;Emploi:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>This is a dismal jobs report, said Keith Hall, commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, at a congressional hearing. There&rsquo;s very little in this report that&rsquo;s positive. This is maybe one of the worst jobs reports the Bureau of Labor Statistics (founded in 1884) has ever produced.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAppr\u00e9ciant la p\u00e9riode des trois derniers mois (c&rsquo;est-\u00e0-dire depuis qu&rsquo;a \u00e9clat\u00e9 la crise financi\u00e8re), le FT met en \u00e9vidence cette tendance \u00e0 l&rsquo;acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration de la crise, \u00e0 partir d&rsquo;une situation de r\u00e9cession d&rsquo;ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0 tr\u00e8s marqu\u00e9e <strong>avant<\/strong> la crise financi\u00e8re.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Revisions to the two prior months brought more dismal news. October&rsquo;s job loss was revised up to 320,000 from 240,000, and September was revised up to 403,000. The revisions brought the 3-month job loss total to 1.3 million. That&rsquo;s equal to two-thirds of this year&rsquo;s total job losses and the third highest three-month job loss total since World War II.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tEnfin, une autre fa\u00e7on d&rsquo;appr\u00e9cier la situation et la tendance qu&rsquo;elle refl\u00e8te est de dire que, contrairement \u00e0 l&rsquo;effet enregistr\u00e9 avec le chiffre de 533.000 emplois perdus, il n&rsquo;y a pas de surprise; de toutes les fa\u00e7ons, les choses vont aller encore en s&rsquo;aggravant.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Today&rsquo;s figures seem awful, but we would stress that they are merely in line with what a number of indicators have been pointing to for months, and there could be an even bigger negative lurking out there in the months ahead, said Rob Carnell, analyst at ING Financial Markets. The National Bureau of Economic Research declared this week that the US economy has been in recession since December last year, but Friday&rsquo;s figures, the latest in a string of grim economic data, suggest conditions are getting worse.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe <em>Times<\/em>  d&rsquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/business.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/business\/economics\/article5293576.ece\" class=\"gen\">aujourd&rsquo;hui<\/a> signale ces avis qui assimilent la perte d&#8217;emplois de novembre \u00e0 un signe d&rsquo;une \u00e9conomie en chute libre, \u00e0 l&rsquo;acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration d&rsquo;une tendance de plus en plus incontr\u00f4lable:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Nigel Gault, chief US economist at Global Insight, described the unemployment numbers as horrendous. This is an economy that is in absolute free fall right now, Mr Gault said: Confidence has collapsed.<\/em>[] <em>Ian Shepherdson, chief US economist at High Frequency Economics, said: This is almost indescribably terrible. In the past six montsh, the US has lost 1.55 million jobs, almost as many as were lost in the whole 2001 recession, which included 9\/11 and the two months after. The pace of job losses is accelerating alarmingly.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe m\u00eame <em>Times<\/em> rapporte d&rsquo;autres pr\u00e9visions extr\u00eamement pr\u00e9occupantes, qui rendent cr\u00e9dibles, voire mod\u00e9r\u00e9es, des projections situant \u00e0 10% et plus de 10% le taux de ch\u00f4mage officiel aux USA \u00e0 la fin de 2009. Ces pr\u00e9visions rendent compte de la probable situation \u00e0 la fin de 2008, apr\u00e8s les licenciements attendus dans l&rsquo;industrie automobile en crise: \u00ab<em>The US car industry is also expected to lay off thousands of workers, taking the unemployment rate to an estimated 8 per cent by the end of the year.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tRobert Reich, sur son <em>blog<\/em> \u00e0 la date du <a href=\"http:\/\/robertreich.blogspot.com\/2008\/12\/shall-we-call-it-depression-now.html\" class=\"gen\">5 d\u00e9cembre<\/a>, n&rsquo;h\u00e9site plus \u00e0 poser la terrible question: Pouvons-nous l&rsquo;appeler une D\u00e9pression, maintenant?,  en titre de sa note (\u00ab<em>Shall We Call it a Depression Now?<\/em>\u00bb). L&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat des observations de Reich est qu&rsquo;il analyse la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 de la situation sociale des USA, conclut qu&rsquo;on se trouve d\u00e9sormais,  au d\u00e9but d\u00e9cembre 2008, au moins \u00e0 11% de taux de ch\u00f4mage <strong>r\u00e9el<\/strong>, qu&rsquo;on se rapproche <strong>tr\u00e8s vite<\/strong> d&rsquo;une situation qui commencerait \u00e0 ressembler \u00e0 l&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique de FDR. (Par ailleurs, Reich estime que l&rsquo;ann\u00e9e 2008 a effectivement <a href=\"http:\/\/robertreich.blogspot.com\/2008\/12\/great-crash-of-2008.html\" class=\"gen\">connu<\/a> un <em>Great Crash<\/em> \u00e9quivalent \u00e0 celui de 1929. Tout y est.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Today&rsquo;s employment report, showing that employers cut 533,000 jobs in November, 320,000 in October, and 403,000 in September  for a total of over 1.2 million over the last three months  begs the question of whether the meltdown we&rsquo;re experiencing should be called a Depression.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>We are falling off a cliff. To put these numbers into some perspective, the November losses alone are the worst in 34 years. A significant percentage of Americans are now jobless or underemployed  far higher than the official rate of 6.7 percent. Simply in order to keep up with population growth, employment needs to increase by 125,000 jobs per month.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Note also that the length of the typical workweek dropped to 33.5 hours. That&rsquo;s the shortest number of hours since the Department of Labor began keeping records on hours worked, back in 1964. A significant number of people are working part-time who&rsquo;d rather be working full time. Coupled with those who are too discouraged even to look for work, I&rsquo;d estimate that the percentage of Americans who need work right now is approaching 11 percent of the workforce. And that percent is likely to raise.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>When FDR took office in 1933, one out of four American workers was jobless. We&rsquo;re not there yet, but we&rsquo;re trending in that direction<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCe chiffre de 533.000 emplois perdus, plus grave que celui qu&rsquo;on attendait, caract\u00e9rise justement le mois de novembre, mois qui a d\u00e9but\u00e9 avec l&rsquo;\u00e9lection d&rsquo;Obama. L&rsquo;enthousiasme de l&rsquo;\u00e9v\u00e9nement n&rsquo;a rien chang\u00e9 \u00e0 la m\u00e9canique catastrophique en cours. Les \u00e9v\u00e9nements politiques sont pour l&rsquo;instant compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9connect\u00e9s de l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie r\u00e9elle, c&rsquo;est-\u00e0-dire du pays r\u00e9el pour les USA. Le facteur psychologique, avec le spectre de la Grande D\u00e9pression qui p\u00e8se dans la m\u00e9moire US comme la r\u00e9f\u00e9rence fondamentale de la catastrophe, joue un r\u00f4le \u00e9galement fondamental, dans un cercle vicieux de mauvaises nouvelles qui p\u00e8sent elles-m\u00eames sur les d\u00e9cisions et les comportements dans le sens de l&rsquo;aggravation, dans ce cas comme une spirale qui acc\u00e9l\u00e8re le rythme de la crise. Cette rupture entre politique et pays r\u00e9el rappelle effectivement la transition de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-l_ombre_terrible_de_la_crise_22_11_2008.html\" class=\"gen\">1932-1933<\/a>, qui avait vu le pire de la Grande D\u00e9pression, avec une situation hors de contr\u00f4le. Mais, sur ce point pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment de l&rsquo;action du nouveau pr\u00e9sident, la situation est beaucoup plus grave parce qu&rsquo;Obama est d&rsquo;ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0 impliqu\u00e9 dans les affaires du pays et ne dispose pas de la possibilit\u00e9 d&rsquo;une rupture psychologique aussi forte qu&rsquo;avait \u00e9t\u00e9 l&rsquo;\u00e9v\u00e9nement de l&rsquo;entr\u00e9e en fonction de FDR (5 mars 1933).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tC&rsquo;est le plus grave probl\u00e8me, le probl\u00e8me urgent qui se pose au nouveau pr\u00e9sident: comment \u00e9tablir un lien de confiance actif et d\u00e9cisif entre sa nouvelle administration et la population US, qui rompe le rythme infernal de la crise \u00e9conomique? Il ne faut pas avoir de doute, car la fragilit\u00e9 psychologique et structurelle des USA dans ce cas est ph\u00e9nom\u00e9nale: si les USA versent dans la d\u00e9pression, celle-ci admise et catalogu\u00e9e comme telle, la crise d\u00e9passera rapidement le domaine \u00e9conomique pour devenir une grande crise nationale, la troisi\u00e8me de l&rsquo;histoire du pays, apr\u00e8s la Guerre de S\u00e9cession et la Grande D\u00e9pression, et cette troisi\u00e8me crise dans des conditions g\u00e9n\u00e9rales bien pires que celles qui existaient lors des deux premi\u00e8res.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPour certains, d&rsquo;ailleurs, nous y sommes d\u00e9j\u00e0. Pour la doyenne des journalistes US, la v\u00e9n\u00e9rable Helen Thomas qui v\u00e9cut sa prime enfance durant la Grande D\u00e9pression, \u00ab<em>It&rsquo;s a depression<\/em>\u00bb,  cela, \u00e9crit le <a href=\"http:\/\/seattlepi.nwsource.com\/opinion\/389882_helenonline29.html\" class=\"gen\">29 novembre<\/a>: \u00ab<em>Few prominent economists will say it, but to me it looks and feels like we are in another Great Depression or a reasonable facsimile.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 5 d\u00e9cembre 2008 \u00e0 19H51<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le chiffre a frapp\u00e9 les milieux dirigeants am\u00e9ricanistes autant que le public: 533.000 emplois perdus aux USA en novembre 2008, le pire chiffre enregistr\u00e9 pour un mois depuis plus de 30 ans (depuis d\u00e9cembre 1974). Les indications sont d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on g\u00e9n\u00e9rale tr\u00e8s inqui\u00e9tantes particuli\u00e8rement pour ce qui concerne le rythme de la crise. 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