{"id":70514,"date":"2009-02-07T07:28:04","date_gmt":"2009-02-07T07:28:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/02\/07\/sarko-est-il-populaire-en-angleterre\/"},"modified":"2009-02-07T07:28:04","modified_gmt":"2009-02-07T07:28:04","slug":"sarko-est-il-populaire-en-angleterre","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/02\/07\/sarko-est-il-populaire-en-angleterre\/","title":{"rendered":"Sarko est-il populaire en Angleterre?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Les milieux officiels britanniques, et la presse officielle d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, n&rsquo;ont pas <strong>du tout<\/strong> appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 les d\u00e9clarations du pr\u00e9sident fran\u00e7ais Sarkozy de jeudi soir. Le passage o\u00f9 Sarkozy met en cause la politique britannique de lutte contre la crise (politique de r\u00e9duction de la TVA), notamment et particuli\u00e8rement, a \u00e9t\u00e9 ressenti comme un coup de Trafalgar, mais pas dans le sens historique qu&rsquo;on sait.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tTous les journaux londoniens embrayent sur l&rsquo;affaire. Mais on dirait plut\u00f4t que cela est fait sur un ton mi-figue mi-raisin. Il y a  l&rsquo;habituelle r\u00e9action anti-fran\u00e7aise pour cette sorte de circonstances mais adoucie par la volont\u00e9 de ne pas trop para\u00eetre soutenir Brown, immens\u00e9ment impopulaire actuellement.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous nous attachons surtout \u00e0 l&rsquo;article central du <em>Times<\/em> sur le sujet, du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/news\/politics\/article5675801.ece\" class=\"gen\">6 f\u00e9vrier<\/a>, qui rapporte l&rsquo;affaire et r\u00e9sume les diverses r\u00e9actions, et le malaise anglo-fran\u00e7ais (dans cet ordre) qui s&rsquo;ensuit.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>French officials scrambled to salvage the entente cordiale today after President Sarkozy publicly disparaged Gordon Brown&rsquo;s response to the global economic crisis. In a 90-minute interview carried simultaneously on three TV channels last night, Mr Sarkozy promised not to repeat Britain&rsquo;s economic mistakes and said that the Prime Minister&rsquo;s flagship VAT cut had absolutely not worked.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>This morning the Elys\u00e9e Palace attempted to smooth ruffled feathers, assuring officials at Downing Street that Mr Sarkozy&rsquo;s comments had not been intended as an attack on British economic policy. But a Downing Street spokesman left little doubt of the irritation that Mr Sarkozy caused at No 10, telling reporters: The Elysee have been in contact this morning to assure us that these remarks were not meant as a critique of UK economic policy &#8211; which is nice. The spokesman declined to say whether this morning&rsquo;s telephone conversation between officials in Downing Street and the Elysee was initiated by London or Paris.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Challenged over his own plans to boost the French economy by infrastructure spending rather than tax cuts, Mr Sarkozy said: Britain is cutting taxes. That will bring them nothing. Consumption continues to decrease in Britain. Predictably enough, the Tories jumped on Mr Sarkozy&rsquo;s comments. President Sarkozy is the latest international leader to condemn Gordon Brown&rsquo;s main policy for tackling the recession, said George Osborne, the Shadow Chancellor.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPourquoi l&rsquo;article du <em>Times<\/em> dans ce cas? Nous nous r\u00e9f\u00e9rons souvent \u00e0 ce quotidien, qui a une attitude caract\u00e9ristique, atlantiste, pro-US, anti-fran\u00e7aise, ce qui nous permet de bien appr\u00e9cier les r\u00e9actions de ces milieux aux affaires politiques. Il est important de conna\u00eetre les r\u00e9actions des uns et des autres, y compris (surtout, peut-\u00eatre) celles d&rsquo;une approche politique que vous ne partagez pas<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous connaissons bien le <em>Times<\/em>, mais nous connaissons bien aussi les r\u00e9actions des lecteurs du <em>Times<\/em>, \u00e9videmment dans le m\u00eame sens que la ligne politique du journal, souvent en plus exacerb\u00e9, en moins polic\u00e9. Aussi, d\u00e8s qu&rsquo;une intervention fran\u00e7aise est per\u00e7ue comme anti-anglaise, les r\u00e9actions des lecteurs dans ce cadre sont extr\u00eamement anti-fran\u00e7aises, souvent tr\u00e8s brutales, parfois aussi d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on caricaturale et presque comique. Ce qui nous a beaucoup surpris dans le cas de cet article, c&rsquo;est la tonalit\u00e9 des r\u00e9actions des lecteurs, soutenant dans une \u00e9crasante majorit\u00e9 l&rsquo;attaque de Sarkozy et, surtout, critiquant Brown \u00e0 mesure.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tUne s\u00e9lection de r\u00e9actions dans ce sens<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Well done Sarkosy, we all agree with you. Oh; just love the wife. (Dee, Poole, Dorset)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Why castigate the guy for telling the truth? (Sue Doughty, Twyford, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The Germans first .. and now the French&#8230; Who else needs to tell Gordon to step down ? (Silvio, London)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Since when did we listen to what the French say. I didn&rsquo;t realize the Tories were that desperate for support. (Ian, London, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Brown&rsquo;s furious? Well the truth hurts! (Paul Williams, Worcester, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>It is difficult to suppress the truth but Brown has been trying to cover up his disasters,\u00a0\u00bbthe whole world are supporting my proposals he tells us. Alas he it didn&rsquo;t translate into French or German even the American interpretation of Gordon&rsquo;s words don&rsquo;t ring true. Brown&rsquo;s best words I resign now (WSS, Cheshire)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Three cheers for Sarko!!! He is not going to waster money on propping up largesse and unsustainable consumption. He is doing what the UK should be doing. However, all European countries need to roll back State spending. (Stephen Marchant, Newton Abbot, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Some 70 per cent of the British public are furious with Brown and his cronies, but he and they don&rsquo;t seem to mind that. (Neil, Gloucestershire, England)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Terrible when we have to rely on the President of France to do the job of the Leader of H.M.&rsquo;s Opposition (Mike, Birmingham, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Poor old Gordon everyone is picking on him, he likes to think he is number one, when he thinks of an idea people will fall over themselves to put that idea into practice. Sadly so far everything he has done has shown it&rsquo;s the banks that rule not the government. my own feeling is Browns days are over. (Robert, Swansea, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Vive la v\u00e9rit\u00e9&#8230; down with Crash Brown&rsquo;s spinning machine! (Tom, St. Albans, England)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>It seems to me that between Sarkozy and Clarkson we at last have a cogent critique of the shambolic ediface currently posing as the UK government. (Andy, Gloucester, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Sarkozy has just stated what the public, experts, and rival politicians have been stating for months. The difference is that Downing Street is actually responding to Sarkozy&rsquo;s comment. Admittedly not in a constructive way, but then again I don&rsquo;t think anyone really expected that. (Jamie, Manchester, UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Yeah but Sarkozy was right. A vat cut was not going to increase everyones confidence to spend. Just cause a jumper is around 20p cheaper don&rsquo;t mean i m going to buy it. Watch the French Brown. You might learn something. (James , Leicester , UK)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<M>When Sarkozy speaks of Brown&rsquo;s mistakes he is not saying anything new to his audience. I live outside the UK now, foreign experts\/media always point to the disasterous policies of Gordon Brown in this current crisis. Only his own spin doctors and the BBC think he has saved the world! Delusional? (Jack, Herceg Novi,)<D>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Sark is not wrong, VAT cuts have not worked and we English have no industry thanks to Gord and his cronies. The truth hurts Downing Street. (Andy D, Manchester )<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>It couldn&rsquo;t be that President Sarkozy is right, could it? The much-vaunted Tax cut in the UK (2.5% off VAT, if I remember correctly) has had a positive effect somewhere, apart from swelling the margins of businesses&#8230;? Does Downing Street have any idea of the irritation they cause us, the voters? (Grindles, London, England !<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>While never being a Conservative voter (though that is likely to change) Sarkozy reminds me of Thatcher for his foreign policies\/approach in not being afraid to ruffle feathers and for that I admire him. <\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>And at least he met with the Dalai Lama instead of cowering to the Chinese government! (Nathan Williams, Hounslow, England)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Brilliant from Sarkozy  love it. (Peter MJ, London)<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPourquoi s&rsquo;arr\u00eater \u00e0 cette avalanche? Parce qu&rsquo;elle est si totalement inhabituelle qu&rsquo;elle nous en dit long, de la part de citoyens britanniques en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral si patriotes dans leur prises de position politique, non pas sur la popularit\u00e9 de Sarkozy mais sur l&rsquo;extraordinaire impopularit\u00e9 de Gordon Brown. Comme l&rsquo;\u00e9crit un des lecteurs: \u00ab<em>Does Downing Street have any idea of the irritation they cause us, the voters?<\/em>\u00bb Il en faut, en effet, de l&rsquo;irritation britannique, pour applaudir de cette fa\u00e7on, dans un premier r\u00e9flexe, l&rsquo;intervention d&rsquo;un pr\u00e9sident fran\u00e7ais critiquant d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on si publique le Premier ministre et la politique britanniques au cur de la crise. (La critique de Sarko n&rsquo;est pas la seule \u00e0 soulever des vagues. Il y a aussi <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/uk\/home-news\/clarkson-insults-browns-intelligence-1570687.html\" class=\"gen\">Jeremy Clarkson<\/a>, de la BBC,  d&rsquo;ailleurs cit\u00e9 par un des lecteurs,  qui insulte l&rsquo;intelligence du Premier ministre et le traite aimablement de <em>One-eyed Scotish idiot<\/em>.) <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;impopularit\u00e9 de Gordon Brown, dans une situation d&rsquo;une tension extr\u00eame, o\u00f9 des <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-le_peuple_my_god_on_l_avait_oublie_celui-la_05_02_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">remous sociaux<\/a> secouent le pays, au cur d&rsquo;une crise dont personne ne voit le terme sinon l&rsquo;aggravation continuelle de la situation pr\u00e9sente dans les prochains mois, fait na\u00eetre effectivement des interrogations sur la stabilit\u00e9 politique du Royaume-Uni. Cette situation pourrait devenir rapidement un probl\u00e8me politique majeur, s&rsquo;il s&rsquo;av\u00e9rait que Gordon Brown ne peut r\u00e9sister \u00e0 la charge de son impopularit\u00e9, s&rsquo;exprimant par ailleurs par une tension sociale tr\u00e8s pressante. La difficult\u00e9 consid\u00e9rable de cette sorte de crise, telle qu&rsquo;elle \u00e9volue, est qu&rsquo;elle affecte directement d\u00e9sormais la popularit\u00e9 des pouvoirs politiques au moment o\u00f9 les pays en crise ont besoin d&rsquo;une direction politique forte, \u00e0 l&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 assur\u00e9e. Cette impopularit\u00e9 est d&rsquo;autant plus grande qu&rsquo;il appara\u00eet d&rsquo;autant plus nettement que les pouvoirs politiques sont compl\u00e8tement acquis aux conceptions \u00e9conomiques dominantes, au <em>diktat<\/em> de l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie ultra-lib\u00e9rale et de march\u00e9, ce qui est \u00e9videmment le cas des Britanniques. Le probl\u00e8me britannique est aggrav\u00e9 par le fait que l&rsquo;alternative actuelle \u00e0 Gordon Brown, le parti conservateur, n&rsquo;est que tr\u00e8s faiblement populaire, qu&rsquo;elle ne l&rsquo;est \u00e9ventuellement que par d\u00e9faut. C&rsquo;est une situation o\u00f9 il n&rsquo;est pas impossible qu&rsquo;apparaisse une troisi\u00e8me voie politique dont on ne sait encore rien pour l&rsquo;instant,  qui ne serait \u00e9videmment pas celle (la sienne) que Tony Blair nous a vant\u00e9e avec ent\u00eatement pendant des ann\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 7 f\u00e9vrier 2009 \u00e0 07H20<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Les milieux officiels britanniques, et la presse officielle d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, n&rsquo;ont pas du tout appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 les d\u00e9clarations du pr\u00e9sident fran\u00e7ais Sarkozy de jeudi soir. Le passage o\u00f9 Sarkozy met en cause la politique britannique de lutte contre la crise (politique de r\u00e9duction de la TVA), notamment et particuli\u00e8rement, a \u00e9t\u00e9 ressenti comme un coup&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[4038,8091,4738,4607,4590,2852,8092],"class_list":["post-70514","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-brown","tag-instabilite","tag-lecteurs","tag-politique","tag-sarkozy","tag-times","tag-tva"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70514","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=70514"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70514\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70514"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70514"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70514"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}