{"id":70658,"date":"2009-04-02T04:19:48","date_gmt":"2009-04-02T04:19:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/04\/02\/la-russie-dans-lotan-pour-nous-proteger-de-la-russie-dicton-polonais\/"},"modified":"2009-04-02T04:19:48","modified_gmt":"2009-04-02T04:19:48","slug":"la-russie-dans-lotan-pour-nous-proteger-de-la-russie-dicton-polonais","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/04\/02\/la-russie-dans-lotan-pour-nous-proteger-de-la-russie-dicton-polonais\/","title":{"rendered":"La Russie dans l&rsquo;OTAN pour nous prot\u00e9ger de la Russie, \u2013 dicton polonais?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Depuis quelques jours, dans telle ou telle circonstance, on \u00e9voque l&rsquo;id\u00e9e hypoth\u00e9tique d&rsquo;une int\u00e9gration de la Russie dans l&rsquo;OTAN. La chose est dite, notamment et pour la premi\u00e8re fois pour la s\u00e9quence, par une voix institutionnelle non n\u00e9gligeable, et significative pour notre propos, celle du ministre polonais des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res Radoslaw Sikorski.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tOn trouve des pr\u00e9cisions sur ces \u00e9v\u00e9nements, notamment dans <em>EUObserver<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/euobserver.com\/9\/27890\/?rk=1\" class=\"gen\">1er avril 2009<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em> Polish foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski said Russia should join the military alliance, if it meets the membership criteria. We need Russia for the resolution of European and global problems. That is why I think it would be good for Russia to join NATO, Mr Sikorski had said at an acacdemic symposium in Poland, as quoted by Polish daily Gazeta Wyborcza.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The same view was echoed on Wednesday at a civil society event in Brussels called the Shadow NATO summit,&rsquo; aimed at feeding the debate around the future of the military alliance. The problem is not that NATO extended to Russia&rsquo;s borders, but that it stopped there, said Gareth Evans, President of the International Crisis Group, a Brussels-based advocacy group. NATO should welcome Russia in its inner ring, provided it complies with the human rights criteria, he added, while admitting that this was not a short-term option, especially after the Georgian war.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>However, Mr Evans stressed that allies should at least start to conceptualise Russia&rsquo;s potential NATO membership<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa r\u00e9action russe \u00e0 cette hypoth\u00e8se exprim\u00e9e ici et l\u00e0 vient principalement du repr\u00e9sentant de la Russie aupr\u00e8s de l&rsquo;OTAN, Dimitri Rogozine. Elle n&rsquo;est pas particuli\u00e8rement encourageante et montre surtout une solide rancur russe \u00e0 l&rsquo;encontre de l&rsquo;OTAN, \u00e9videmment comme suite principalement de la crise g\u00e9orgienne et de ce que les Russes ont per\u00e7u du comportement de l&rsquo;OTAN. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>There is no such necessity at this moment, but we cannot rule out this opportunity in the future, Mr Rogozin said in a phone interview on Tuesday (31 March)<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>We don&rsquo;t consider it necessary to make any concessions in terms of our sovereignty and we are capable of solving all the threats in an independent way. What we are ready for is to create some temporary coalitions, but at the moment we are not happy about many things happening in NATO, Mr Rogozin said, adding that this was a reason why membership was out of the question at this point. Great powers don&rsquo;t join coalitions, they create coalitions. Russia considers itself a great power,\u00a0\u00bb the Russian ambassador stressed.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>He said Russia wanted to be NATO&rsquo;s partner, provided the alliance took into account Moscow&rsquo;s interest  a catchphrase alluding to NATO enlargement to its neighbouring Ukraine and Georgia, which it fiercely opposes.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Mr Rogozin strongly criticised NATO&rsquo;s solidarity with Georgia during and after Russia&rsquo;s invasion of its territory following Tbilisi&rsquo;s attack on South Ossetia. We are extremely frustrated and astonished by NATO&rsquo;s actions in August-September last year, when our soldiers were killed and instead of support, we only saw the hypocrisy of their policy. NATO turned out to be the only organisation that sided fully with the aggressor, he said. For the moment, we don&rsquo;t see any real change in the organisation, we only see the organisation getting ready for the wars of past Europe, Mr Rogozin concluded.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;id\u00e9e vient donc principalement des Polonais, et aucune pr\u00e9cision structur\u00e9e et de fond, et officielle encore moins, ne l&rsquo;accompagne. Une hypoth\u00e8se pour expliquer ce qui para\u00eet \u00eatre une sorte de ballon d&rsquo;essai pourrait \u00eatre que les Polonais commencent \u00e0 mesurer l&rsquo;importance de la <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-on_reduit_la_toile_07_03_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">r\u00e9orientation<\/a> de la politique US en Europe, essentiellement avec de meilleures relations des USA avec la Russie et un certain d\u00e9sengagement US d&rsquo;Europe, dans tous les cas sans aucun doute un int\u00e9r\u00eat moindre port\u00e9e \u00e0 l&rsquo;Europe. La garantie de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 US que les Polonais jugeaient comme acquise avec le d\u00e9ploiement du BMDE n&rsquo;existerait plus avec l&rsquo;administration Obama et un probable abandon du BMDE. Dans ce cas, la garantie de s\u00e9curit\u00e9, selon les conceptions extr\u00eamement inqui\u00e8tes des Polonais, pourrait devenir radicale avec l&rsquo;id\u00e9e d&rsquo;inviter la Russie dans l&rsquo;OTAN. (Pour mieux tenter de cerner l&rsquo;attitude des Polonais, on doit rappeler que cette affaire intervient alors qu&rsquo;on constate d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on g\u00e9n\u00e9rale une \u00e9volution d&rsquo;une distanciation grandissante des <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-raccourci_sur_la_route_vers_l_enfer__27_03_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">rapports<\/a> de l&rsquo;Europe de l&rsquo;Est avec les USA.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa r\u00e9action russe, comme on le voit, est plut\u00f4t rugueuse. Elle pourrait \u00eatre aussi, si l&rsquo;id\u00e9e persistait, de relancer la proposition Medvedev d&rsquo;un nouvel accord de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 paneurop\u00e9en,  ce qui pourrait \u00eatre dans ce cas d\u00e9fini, disons, comme une r\u00e9ponse du berger \u00e0 la berg\u00e8re.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 2 avril 2009 \u00e0 04H22<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Depuis quelques jours, dans telle ou telle circonstance, on \u00e9voque l&rsquo;id\u00e9e hypoth\u00e9tique d&rsquo;une int\u00e9gration de la Russie dans l&rsquo;OTAN. La chose est dite, notamment et pour la premi\u00e8re fois pour la s\u00e9quence, par une voix institutionnelle non n\u00e9gligeable, et significative pour notre propos, celle du ministre polonais des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res Radoslaw Sikorski. 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