{"id":70696,"date":"2009-04-20T04:31:55","date_gmt":"2009-04-20T04:31:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/04\/20\/sequelles-dalamo-a-lenvers\/"},"modified":"2009-04-20T04:31:55","modified_gmt":"2009-04-20T04:31:55","slug":"sequelles-dalamo-a-lenvers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/04\/20\/sequelles-dalamo-a-lenvers\/","title":{"rendered":"S\u00e9quelles d&rsquo;\u201cAlamo \u00e0 l&rsquo;envers\u201d\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>\u00ab<em>HA! Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the United States of America? One can hope&#8230;<\/em>\u00bb,  voil\u00e0 un parmi les nombreuses r\u00e9actions d&rsquo;auditeurs (119 au <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/michaeltomasky\/video\/2009\/apr\/17\/texas-rick-perry-tomasky-talk\" class=\"gen\">19 avril 2009<\/a> au matin) d&rsquo;un rapide commentaire parl\u00e9 (vid\u00e9o) de Michael Tomalsky, dans le <em>Guardian<\/em> du 17 avril 2009, sur les d\u00e9clarations du gouverneur du Texas le 15 avril 2009 (voir notre <em>Bloc-Notes<\/em> du <a href=\" http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-alamo_a_l_envers_16_04_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">16 avril 2009<\/a>).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl est difficile \u00e9videmment de donner un aper\u00e7u complet et pr\u00e9cis de ces commentaires mais nous assurons nos lecteurs que leur lecture, m\u00eame partielle, est du plus haut int\u00e9r\u00eat. La plupart des intervenants sont US (le <em>Guardian<\/em> a un fort lectorat US sur son site). Mises \u00e0 part les impr\u00e9cations, ou compte tenu de celles-ci si l&rsquo;on veut, on peut distinguer deux grandes tendances dans les interventions:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Une discussion extr\u00eamement s\u00e9rieuse sur les m\u00e9rites, les avantages, les modalit\u00e9s diverses, d&rsquo;une s\u00e9cession du Texas, de la s\u00e9cession en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, de l&rsquo;\u00e9clatement des USA au bout du compte. Les rapports de Washington et des Etats sont \u00e9galement analys\u00e9s. Les arguments vont de la vitup\u00e9ration et de l&rsquo;insulte aux analyses minutieuses des modalit\u00e9s constitutionnelles de tels actes. C&rsquo;est parfois, et m\u00eame souvent, fort instructif.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Le courant d&rsquo;antagonisme, voire de haine, existant aux USA entre les deux blocs id\u00e9ologiques (conservateurs traditionnalistes et lib\u00e9raux progressistes pour faire bref et tr\u00e8s approximatif). La pr\u00e9vention, l&rsquo;hostilit\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;encontre du Texas, cet Etat consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme tr\u00e8s singulier, r\u00e9actionnaire, archa\u00efque, arrogant, raciste, etc., par le courant non-texan et lib\u00e9ral, sont absolument impressionnants. La violence de certaines r\u00e9actions de Texans est \u00e9galement remarquable. Les courants d&rsquo;antagonisme ainsi mis en \u00e9vidence font v\u00e9ritablement penser \u00e0 des citoyens de <strong>nations ennemies<\/strong> et leur cohabitation implique effectivement des structures de contrainte, notamment par le conformisme, les pressions l\u00e9gislatives et polici\u00e8res, une intense propagande de communication, etc. La crise est-elle en train de mettre en \u00e9vidence que tout cela ne suffit plus?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tOn d\u00e9couvre d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on convaincante, ou bien l&rsquo;on en a confirmation, que le sujet ainsi d\u00e9battu en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, qui n&rsquo;est rien de moins que l&rsquo;\u00e9clatement des USA, est un sujet tr\u00e8s s\u00e9rieux, tr\u00e8s actuel, qui constitue secr\u00e8tement un des grands th\u00e8mes importants des r\u00e9flexions dans les USA en crise. Il est manifeste que l&rsquo;\u00e9clatement est non seulement le stade ultime d&rsquo;une crise grave aux USA, mais aussi  le stade ultime <strong>naturel<\/strong>, sinon <strong>\u00e9vident<\/strong>, d&rsquo;une telle crise grave. La fragilit\u00e9 structurelle des USA, \u00e0 laquelle nous croyons \u00e9norm\u00e9ment, est ainsi mise en \u00e9vidence.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous ne pr\u00e9tendons pas avoir d\u00e9battu l&rsquo;ensemble des commentaires (le nombre de 119 mentionn\u00e9s est un peu trompeur : nombre de commentaires sont tr\u00e8s longs et constituent de petits articles). N\u00e9anmoins, l&rsquo;un d&rsquo;entre eux nous a arr\u00eat\u00e9 parce qu&rsquo;il est mesur\u00e9, assez complet et, surtout, rend bien compte de l&rsquo;importance du probl\u00e8me en s&rsquo;adressant justement aux non-US, avec cette remarque introductive Ce que les gens hors des USA ne comprennent peut-\u00eatre pas, c&rsquo;est que tout cela peut peut-\u00eatre avoir l&rsquo;air d&rsquo;une plaisanterie mais que ce n&rsquo;est pas dr\u00f4le<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>What people outside the U.S. might not understand is that this may sound like a joke, but it&rsquo;s not funny. There is a large number of people on the far right side of American politics who are, for want of a better word, crypto-Confederates, especially when one looks at the geography of the far right. A lot of what you hear in the form of railing against big government and taxes appears to be a use of code words. What is being objected to is not government in general but only certain types of government spending; namely, anti-poverty programs that are perceived as disproportionately benefiting non-white poor people. With regard to taxation, the appropriate degree of the government&rsquo;s role in regulating commercial activity, and anti-union politicking, these appear to be code words describing a policy of seeking to limit the government&rsquo;s ability to serve as a counterweight against private business interests. The key here is that discrimination is far easier to accomplish in the absence of government control. During the 1960s, there was even one county that shut down its county school system (replacing the county schools with private whites-only schools) in order to avoid having to comply with a racial desegregation order from a Federal court. In this context, the reference to secession by the governor of Texas (and his extremely limited retraction, in which he essentially forswore secession for the time being) raises real concern.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 20 avril 2009 \u00e0 05H26<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00abHA! Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the United States of America? One can hope&#8230;\u00bb, voil\u00e0 un parmi les nombreuses r\u00e9actions d&rsquo;auditeurs (119 au 19 avril 2009 au matin) d&rsquo;un rapide commentaire parl\u00e9 (vid\u00e9o) de Michael Tomalsky, dans le Guardian du 17 avril 2009, sur les d\u00e9clarations du gouverneur du Texas le&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[8263,7021,7960,2949,3421,2804],"class_list":["post-70696","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-blog","tag-eclatement","tag-gouverneur","tag-secession","tag-texas","tag-usa"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70696","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=70696"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70696\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70696"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70696"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70696"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}