{"id":70783,"date":"2009-05-26T09:05:24","date_gmt":"2009-05-26T09:05:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/05\/26\/liran-a-pas-de-loup\/"},"modified":"2009-05-26T09:05:24","modified_gmt":"2009-05-26T09:05:24","slug":"liran-a-pas-de-loup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/05\/26\/liran-a-pas-de-loup\/","title":{"rendered":"L&rsquo;Iran \u00e0 pas de loup"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Les d\u00e9clarations de l&rsquo;amiral Mullen lors d&rsquo;une interview par George Stephanopoulos, de ABC, contribuent \u00e0 \u00e9clairer davantage la politique de l&rsquo;administration Obama vis-\u00e0-vis de l&rsquo;Iran. Ces d\u00e9clarations  (du 24 mai) sont reprises d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on s\u00e9lective par le <em>Financial Times<\/em> du m\u00eame <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ft.com\/cms\/s\/0\/6877b51a-4896-11de-8870-00144feabdc0.html\" class=\"gen\">24 mai 2009<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The US&rsquo;s top military official appeared to suggest on Sunday that the US could accept Iran retaining its capacity to enrich uranium provided it abandoned efforts to develop nuclear weapons.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Admiral Mullen said in a television interview that a successful outcome of US- Iranian dialogue from my perspective means they don&rsquo;t end up with nuclear weapons  a narrow definition favoured by the administration of President Barack Obama. <\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>When the interviewer  George Stephanopoulos, a former Clinton administration White House official  followed up by asking: They don&rsquo;t end up with nuclear weapons, but could they have, as Japan does, a full nuclear fuel cycle programme that&rsquo;s fully inspected? Mr Mullen replied: I think that&rsquo;s certainly a possibility. The chairman of the joint chiefs added: From my perspective, from the military perspective, this isn&rsquo;t about them having the ability to produce nuclear power. It&rsquo;s about their desire and their goal to have a nuclear weapon.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa transcription du passage (ABC, le <a href=\"http:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/ThisWeek\/story?id=7664072&#038;page=1\" class=\"gen\">24 mai 2009<\/a>) que signale le FT est int\u00e9ressante \u00e0 lire exactement. On remarque, \u00e0 la premi\u00e8re question de Stephanopoulos, que sont cit\u00e9es les r\u00e9v\u00e9lations du journaliste du <em>New Yorker<\/em> Seymour Hersh concernant le r\u00f4le de Mullen pour bloquer une attaque contre l&rsquo;Iran (notamment en <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-comment_washington_prepare_son_attaque_contre_l_iran_et_comment_cette_attaque_n_aura_peut-etre_pas_lieu_30_06_2008.html\" class=\"gen\">2008<\/a>, mais sans doute aussi avant). Dans la r\u00e9ponse, Mullen ne rel\u00e8ve rien de cette citation, ce qui peut \u00eatre largement pris pour une confirmation implicite, dans tous les cas du r\u00f4le constant de Mullen pour bloquer de tels plans d&rsquo;attaque. La chose est importante \u00e0 noter, dans la mesure o\u00f9 elle donne beaucoup de cr\u00e9dit aux arguments que Mullen d\u00e9veloppe en faveur d&rsquo;un dialogue avec l&rsquo;Iran, \u00e9ventuellement d&rsquo;une situation acceptable de seuil (capacit\u00e9s compl\u00e8tes de produire une arme nucl\u00e9aire sans la produire).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Stephanopoulos<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>And you just said that you believe that a nuclear Iran would be calamitous for the region. But last year, Sy Hersh in the New Yorker reported that you pushed back very hard against any notion of a military strike during President Bush&rsquo;s administration. And you&rsquo;ve spoken publicly about the unintended consequences of a military strike by Israel. So what worries you more? A nuclear Iran or war with Iran?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Mullen<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>Well, they both worry me a lot. And I think the unintended consequences of a strike against Iran right now would be incredibly serious. As well as the unintended consequences of their achieving a nuclear weapon.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>And so that&rsquo;s why this engagement in dialogue is so important. I think we should do that with all options on the table. As we approach them.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>And so that leaves a pretty narrow space in which to achieve a successful dialogue and a successful outcome, which from my perspective means they don&rsquo;t end up with nuclear weapons.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Stephanopoulos<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>They don&rsquo;t end up with nuclear weapons, but could they have as Japan does a full nuclear fuel cycle program that&rsquo;s fully inspected?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Mullen<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>I think that&rsquo;s certainly a possibility and this isn&rsquo;t, at least, from my perspective, from the military perspective, this isn&rsquo;t about them having the ability to produce nuclear power. It&rsquo;s about their desire and their goal to have a nuclear weapon.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tDans le contexte g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, et extr\u00eamement prudent, qui caract\u00e9rise les nouveaux rapports des USA avec l&rsquo;Iran, les d\u00e9clarations de Mullen, le pr\u00e9sident du comit\u00e9 des chefs d&rsquo;\u00e9tat-major des forces arm\u00e9es US, constituent un \u00e9v\u00e9nement important. Elles constituent une sorte de feu vert public des militaires \u00e0 l&rsquo;orientation que semble avoir prise l&rsquo;administration Obama, dont nous signalions le principe le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-l_iran_yes_we_can_change__23_03_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">23 mars 2009<\/a>,  et m\u00eame plus qu&rsquo;un feu vert\u00a0\u00bb, on pourrait parler d&rsquo;un soutien actif. Elles signalent aux diverses parties en pr\u00e9sence qui tentent de s&rsquo;opposer \u00e0 cette orientation US, notamment les Isra\u00e9liens,  qu&rsquo;une situation de seuil implique bien entendu l&rsquo;absence d&rsquo;arme nucl\u00e9aire,  par d\u00e9finition,  mais aussi l&rsquo;abandon de l&rsquo;option d&rsquo;une attaque de l&rsquo;Iran. Cette situation implique \u00e9galement une logique de contre-prolif\u00e9ration et, pour la r\u00e9gion, de zone d\u00e9nucl\u00e9aris\u00e9e,  ce qui conduit \u00e0 un vaste probl\u00e8me qui commence \u00e0 \u00eatre <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-israel_bho_et_le_biais_nucleaire_09_05_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">\u00e9voqu\u00e9<\/a>, o\u00f9 Isra\u00ebl a, plus que l&rsquo;Iran, le premier r\u00f4le.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t(D&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on g\u00e9n\u00e9rale et sauf pour le cas du FT, ces d\u00e9clarations de Mullen ont surtout \u00e9t\u00e9 retenues pour les sp\u00e9culations du pr\u00e9sident du JCS sur le d\u00e9lai th\u00e9orique qui reste \u00e0 l&rsquo;Iran pour arriver \u00e0 une arme nucl\u00e9aire, parfois avec des variations avec d&rsquo;autres \u00e9valuations de la chose. Dans le contexte, ces sp\u00e9culations sont secondaires, sinon pour mettre en \u00e9vidence que la nouvelle politique qui vient d&rsquo;\u00eatre lanc\u00e9e doit \u00eatre d&rsquo;autant plus pouss\u00e9e.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 26 mai 2009 \u00e0 08H51<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Les d\u00e9clarations de l&rsquo;amiral Mullen lors d&rsquo;une interview par George Stephanopoulos, de ABC, contribuent \u00e0 \u00e9clairer davantage la politique de l&rsquo;administration Obama vis-\u00e0-vis de l&rsquo;Iran. Ces d\u00e9clarations (du 24 mai) sont reprises d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on s\u00e9lective par le Financial Times du m\u00eame 24 mai 2009 \u00abThe US&rsquo;s top military official appeared to suggest on Sunday that&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2773,2774,7098,3004,6208,8351],"class_list":["post-70783","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-iran","tag-israel","tag-mullen","tag-nucleaire","tag-obama","tag-seuil"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70783","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=70783"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70783\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70783"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70783"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70783"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}