{"id":70824,"date":"2009-06-10T13:38:50","date_gmt":"2009-06-10T13:38:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/06\/10\/lextraordinaire-courrier-du-ministre-peled-a-ses-collegues\/"},"modified":"2009-06-10T13:38:50","modified_gmt":"2009-06-10T13:38:50","slug":"lextraordinaire-courrier-du-ministre-peled-a-ses-collegues","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/06\/10\/lextraordinaire-courrier-du-ministre-peled-a-ses-collegues\/","title":{"rendered":"L&rsquo;extraordinaire courrier du ministre Peled \u00e0 ses coll\u00e8gues."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Le ministre isra\u00e9lien sans portefeuille Yossif Peled a pris sa plume et a \u00e9crit une tartine \u00e0 ses coll\u00e8gues,  11 pages. La chose a \u00e9t\u00e9 obtenue par le Jerusalem <em>Post<\/em> lundi, fuite venue d&rsquo;un ministre est-il pr\u00e9cis\u00e9 obligeamment. Le contenu de la lettre est explosif et extraordinaire.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAlors que son commentateur principal, Justin Raimondo, s&rsquo;en donne \u00e0 cur joie, le <a href=\"http:\/\/original.antiwar.com\/justin\/2009\/06\/09\/anti-americanism-in-israel\/\" class=\"gen\">10 juin 2009<\/a>, en daubant sur l&rsquo;antiam\u00e9ricanisme en Isra\u00ebl (titre de sa chronique), le site <em>Antiwar.com<\/em> propose un rapide r\u00e9sum\u00e9 de l&rsquo;\u00e9v\u00e9nement, ainsi que du contenu de la lettre, le m\u00eame <a href=\"http:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2009\/06\/09\/israeli-minister-eyes-sanctions-against-us\/\" class=\"gen\">10 juin 2009<\/a> Jason Ditz a du mal \u00e0 retenir son incr\u00e9dulit\u00e9 en observant que ce que Peled propose, entre autres mesures, c&rsquo;est d&rsquo;intervenir dans les affaires int\u00e9rieures US pour obtenir un changement de r\u00e9gime aux USA<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Israeli news outlets are reporting the leak of a letter from Israeli cabinet minister Yossi Peled to the rest of the nation&rsquo;s cabinet, cautioning that the Obama Administration was going to adopt a more balanced approach to Israel, including intensive pressure to stop building in settlements, remove outposts and advance the formation of a Palestinian state.<\/em> [] <em>What is noteworthy is Minister Peled&rsquo;s proposed strategies to combat this, including sanctions against the United States.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>In particular, Israel would begin shifting military purchases, the bulk of which come from the US, to other nations, and offering influence to other nations willing to get involved in the peace process in a way more in keeping with Israeli interests. Incredibly enough, Peled, a member of the ruling Likud Party, also proposes political actions which seem to amount to an attempt at regime change in the US.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Peled suggests that the Israeli government become directly involved in next year&rsquo;s US congressional elections, intervening against Democratic Party candidates in the hopes that the candidates would pressure Obama to adopt a more universally pro-Israel stance.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe Jerusalem <em>Post<\/em> pr\u00e9sente donc le document dans ses \u00e9ditions du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jpost.com \/servlet\/Satellite?cid=1244371046569&#038;pagename=JPArticle%2FShowFull\" class=\"gen\">9 juin 2009<\/a>, en annon\u00e7ant que Peled propose des sanctions isra\u00e9liennes contre les USA. Le journal d\u00e9taille \u00e9galement des r\u00e9actions, notamment aux USA, dans la communaut\u00e9 juive, o\u00f9 le moins qu&rsquo;on puisse dire est que la lettre a sem\u00e9 l&rsquo;inqui\u00e9tude et la consternation.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The State Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Peled&rsquo;s letter. But Democratic political activists in Washington dismissed out of hand Peled&rsquo;s suggestions, saying that such an approach would have little chance of influencing Congress&rsquo;s posture on Israel.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>It shows Yossi Peled is terribly uninformed about US politics, said National Jewish Democratic Council Executive Director Ira Forman. He doesn&rsquo;t understand the politics of the American Jewish community. He doesn&rsquo;t understand the politics of the Democratic party. Forman argued that Republicans had long tried to use the issue of Israel to peel Jews away from the Democratic Party with limited success, as the constituency continued to vote overwhelmingly Democrat.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>He predicted that such efforts, if attempted, would neither shift congressional support away from Obama nor boomerang to hurt Israel&rsquo;s backing on Capitol Hill. Any such efforts would be so quixotic, would be so insignificant, would be so non-workable that I don&rsquo;t think it would have an impact either way, he said.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>But other Jewish leaders were concerned that Peled&rsquo;s recommendations might create negative repercussions. Just as it is inadvisable and inappropriate for the United States government to interfere in the domestic political affairs of the State of Israel, it is totally wrong-headed and dangerous for the Government of Israel to attempt to inject itself into American electoral politics, said William Daroff, director of the United Jewish Communities&rsquo; Washington office. I have no doubt that Prime Minister Netanyahu did not know in advance about this proposal, and that he would reject it as outlandish.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tUne fois encore, il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;examiner l&rsquo;affaire selon ce qu&rsquo;elle r\u00e9v\u00e8le et en fonction de ses effets indirects, plut\u00f4t que comme le fait politique qu&rsquo;elle est \u00e9videmment, avec les effets directs possibles. Le document ayant \u00e9t\u00e9 diffus\u00e9 d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on informelle, voire ill\u00e9gale, par les voies habituelles des fuites vers la presse, il reste un \u00e9v\u00e9nement politique incertain dont il serait ais\u00e9 de diminuer l&rsquo;importance, voire qu&rsquo;il serait possible (mais pas tr\u00e8s ais\u00e9) d&rsquo;ignorer purement et simplement. Par contre, quelle indication nous donne cette affaire sur la tension et la passion qui r\u00e8gnent actuellement dans les relations Isra\u00ebl-USA!<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes mesures propos\u00e9es par Peled, si elles peuvent para\u00eetre grotesques pour certains, n&rsquo;en sont pas moins s\u00e9rieuses dans le contexte o\u00f9 elles sont avanc\u00e9es. M\u00eame si bien des situations ressemblent \u00e0 ce que Peled propose (l&rsquo;influence de l&rsquo;AIPAC sur le Congr\u00e8s revient \u00e0 une interf\u00e9rence dans le processus \u00e9lectoral US), la forme de la pr\u00e9sentation de la chose, la m\u00e9thode propos\u00e9e elle-m\u00eame, constituent des faits extraordinaires, qui justifient la remarque de Forman: \u00ab<em>It shows Yossi Peled is terribly uninformed about US politics.<\/em>\u00bb Traduisons: il y a des formes \u00e0 respecter, et c&rsquo;est m\u00eame l&rsquo;aspect essentiel de la situation am\u00e9ricaniste,  respecter les formes, les apparences, le virtualisme si l&rsquo;on veut Peled ne s&rsquo;en pr\u00e9occupe plus gu\u00e8re, et, en cela, effectivement, il commet un grave impair. Mais l\u00e0 aussi, ce n&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;un signe de plus de la passion et des tensions<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tEntre Isra\u00ebl et les USA, les relations sp\u00e9ciales sont charg\u00e9es d&rsquo;incompr\u00e9hensions et d&rsquo;interpr\u00e9tations fautives,  \u00e0 cause des formes, justement. Contrairement \u00e0 l&rsquo;apparence, il n&rsquo;y a pas deux complices s&rsquo;entendant comme larrons en foire, ou bien l&rsquo;un des deux profitant de l&rsquo;autre, ce dernier acceptant sans r\u00e9agir parce qu&rsquo;il veut ignorer qu&rsquo;il est exploit\u00e9. En r\u00e9alit\u00e9,  et que cela soit fond\u00e9 ou pas n&rsquo;importe pas,  chacun des deux partenaires a la sensation de donner beaucoup \u00e0 l&rsquo;autre, notamment d&rsquo;accepter son intrusion dans des domaines de sa souverainet\u00e9. Manifestement, Peled pense cela des USA, et, par cons\u00e9quent, il juge l&rsquo;\u00e9volution d&rsquo;Obama comme une trahison. Ajoutez cette incompr\u00e9hension et ces erreurs de jugement \u00e0 la passion et aux pressions, dans le domaine politique le plus explosif et le plus passionn\u00e9 qu&rsquo;on puisse concevoir,  et imaginez ce que nous r\u00e9serve l&rsquo;avenir si BHO poursuit sa politique Encore un ou deux incidents de cette sorte et, bien entendu, BHO ne pourra plus rien faire d&rsquo;autre, outre de le vouloir sans doute, que de poursuivre l&rsquo;\u00e9volution qu&rsquo;il a lanc\u00e9e, voire de l&rsquo;acc\u00e9l\u00e9rer. Ce sera le cr\u00e9dit de son administration, voire celui des USA, qui seront en jeu face \u00e0 Isra\u00ebl.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 10 juin 2009 \u00e0 13H40<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le ministre isra\u00e9lien sans portefeuille Yossif Peled a pris sa plume et a \u00e9crit une tartine \u00e0 ses coll\u00e8gues, 11 pages. La chose a \u00e9t\u00e9 obtenue par le Jerusalem Post lundi, fuite venue d&rsquo;un ministre est-il pr\u00e9cis\u00e9 obligeamment. Le contenu de la lettre est explosif et extraordinaire. Alors que son commentateur principal, Justin Raimondo, s&rsquo;en&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2774,6208,8394,2804],"class_list":["post-70824","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-israel","tag-obama","tag-peled","tag-usa"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70824","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=70824"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70824\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70824"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70824"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70824"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}