{"id":70920,"date":"2009-07-17T14:50:07","date_gmt":"2009-07-17T14:50:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/07\/17\/roubini-nest-pas-houdini-ou-bien-si-apres-tout\/"},"modified":"2009-07-17T14:50:07","modified_gmt":"2009-07-17T14:50:07","slug":"roubini-nest-pas-houdini-ou-bien-si-apres-tout","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/07\/17\/roubini-nest-pas-houdini-ou-bien-si-apres-tout\/","title":{"rendered":"Roubini n&rsquo;est pas Houdini, \u2013 ou bien si, apr\u00e8s tout\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>R\u00e9action furieuse de l&rsquo;\u00e9conomiste d\u00e9sormais fameux aux USA pour avoir annonc\u00e9 (tout de m\u00eame avec un certain nombre d&rsquo;autres) la crise catastrophique, financi\u00e8re et \u00e9conomique. En gros <em>dixit<\/em> Roubini, dans une d\u00e9claration \u00e9crite \u00e0 la presse, aussi s\u00e9rieuse qu&rsquo;un communiqu\u00e9 du G8: Je n&rsquo;ai pas chang\u00e9 d&rsquo;avis, et je n&rsquo;ai pas annonc\u00e9 que la fin de la r\u00e9cession serait plus proche que je n&rsquo;avais envisag\u00e9 jusqu&rsquo;ici.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCe n&rsquo;est pas la pr\u00e9vision elle-m\u00eame qui nous int\u00e9resse mais bien le processus d&rsquo;effets en cascade qui accompagne une rumeur, ou une interpr\u00e9tation, d&rsquo;une affirmation de Nouriel Roubine, dit <em>Doctor Doom<\/em> pour les amis et les initi\u00e9s. L&rsquo;aspect psychologique de contagion, de croyance, de sollicitation, etc., est bien mis en \u00e9vidence.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Une d\u00e9p\u00eache de Reuters, du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/ousiv\/idUSTRE56F5TS20090716\" class=\"gen\">16 juillet 2009<\/a>, d&rsquo;abord diffus\u00e9e en d\u00e9but d&rsquo;apr\u00e8s-midi, annonce que, selon Roubini, le pire est derri\u00e8re nous,  dans tous les cas, aussi court que cela si l&rsquo;on s&rsquo;en tient au titre. Le texte, lui, va de cette fa\u00e7on. \u00ab<em>Nouriel Roubini, one of the few economists who accurately predicted the magnitude of the financial crisis, said on Thursday that the worst of the turmoil has passed. But Roubini emphasized the United States will still need a second fiscal stimulus, possibly by the end of this year, as the unemployment rate quickly approaches 10 percent.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Peu apr\u00e8s, un quart de tour plus tard, Wall Street r\u00e9agit au quart de tour. Puisque <em>Mister Doom<\/em> l&rsquo;annonce, explique CNBC.com, toujours le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/id\/31947377\/\" class=\"gen\">16 juillet 2009<\/a> \u00ab<em>Stocks closed higher after a staging a late rally triggered partly by positive comments from the economist known as Doctor Doom. After drifting for most of the session, the market began climbing when Reuters reported that Nouriel Roubini, a longtime pessimist, said the recession could be over by the end of the year.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Donc, comme annonc\u00e9 plus haut,  r\u00e9action furieuse de Roubini devenu Houdini, le magicien qui fait monter la bourse d&rsquo;un coup de baguette magique. Toujours de CNBC.com, le m\u00eame <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/id\/31947275\/\" class=\"gen\">16 juillet 2009<\/a>:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Nouriel Roubini, the economist whose dire forecasts earned him the nickname Doctor Doom, said after markets closed Thursday that earlier reports claiming he sees an end to the recession this year were taken out of context. It has been widely reported today that I have stated that the recession will be over &lsquo;this year&rsquo; and that I have &lsquo;improved&rsquo; my economic outlook, Roubini said in a prepared statement. Despite those reports &#8230; my views expressed today are no different than the views I have expressed previously. If anything my views were taken out of context.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Several business news outlets, picking up on a report initially from Reuters, earlier Thursday cited Roubini as saying that the worst of the economic financial crisis may be over.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes commentaires sortent bien entendu de la plume sans sollicitation particuli\u00e8re. Ils concernent aussi bien la volatilit\u00e9 de l&rsquo;information, la rapidit\u00e9 de la diffusion de l&rsquo;information, l&rsquo;acceptation de l&rsquo;information r\u00e9duite \u00e0 sa plus simple expression (le titre de la d\u00e9p\u00eache Reuters a fait l&rsquo;affaire, dans ce cas, sans n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de s&rsquo;aventurer dans les complexit\u00e9s \u00e9pouvantables du texte, <em>dito<\/em> le contexte); la vuln\u00e9rabilit\u00e9 \u00e0 l&rsquo;influence ext\u00e9rieure, voire la sollicitation de l&rsquo;influence ext\u00e9rieure du processus boursier, particuli\u00e8rement en ce moment, pour toute information qui pourrait \u00eatre assimil\u00e9e \u00e0 une jeune pousse (<em>green shoot<\/em>) d&rsquo;un printemps qui n&rsquo;en finit pas de fleurir; l&rsquo;influence accord\u00e9e \u00e0 divers noms, notori\u00e9t\u00e9, r\u00e9putation, etc., acquise selon des processus insaisissable et irrationnel, sans pour autant que les int\u00e9ress\u00e9s s&rsquo;en satisfasse n\u00e9cessairement ou l&rsquo;ait m\u00eame sollicit\u00e9e, etc.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tTout cela fait partie, non pas de l&rsquo;\u00e9conomie-casino, mais de la psychologie-casino de l&rsquo;\u00eatre humain, avec la croyance aux \u00e9v\u00e9nements magiques qui va avec. Dans ce cas, effectivement, Roubini est effectivement Houdini, et c&rsquo;est certainement ce qui l&rsquo;a rendu le plus furieux. On peut philosopher sur le fait que le sort du monde est, pour la phase pr\u00e9sente, et bien s\u00fbr sans d\u00e9mentir les phases pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes qui all\u00e8rent de m\u00eame mais en un peu moins rapide, d\u00e9pendant d&rsquo;une organisation semblable (Wall Street) qui fonctionne notamment \u00e0 partir d&rsquo;une psychologie qui cherche surtout, dans l&rsquo;\u00e9conomiste comme dans toute autre voix autoris\u00e9e, le magicien qui pourrait rencontrer ses vux les plus enivrants.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 17 juillet 2009 \u00e0 14H50<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>R\u00e9action furieuse de l&rsquo;\u00e9conomiste d\u00e9sormais fameux aux USA pour avoir annonc\u00e9 (tout de m\u00eame avec un certain nombre d&rsquo;autres) la crise catastrophique, financi\u00e8re et \u00e9conomique. En gros dixit Roubini, dans une d\u00e9claration \u00e9crite \u00e0 la presse, aussi s\u00e9rieuse qu&rsquo;un communiqu\u00e9 du G8: Je n&rsquo;ai pas chang\u00e9 d&rsquo;avis, et je n&rsquo;ai pas annonc\u00e9 que la fin&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[6723,8481,3090,7386,3099,3725,4067,8274,8345,3372,3132],"class_list":["post-70920","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-green","tag-houdini","tag-influence","tag-magicien","tag-psychologie","tag-recession","tag-reprise","tag-roubini","tag-shoots","tag-street","tag-wall"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70920","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=70920"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/70920\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=70920"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=70920"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=70920"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}