{"id":71000,"date":"2009-08-20T12:01:50","date_gmt":"2009-08-20T12:01:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/08\/20\/blog-boeing-scandale-dans-la-famille\/"},"modified":"2009-08-20T12:01:50","modified_gmt":"2009-08-20T12:01:50","slug":"blog-boeing-scandale-dans-la-famille","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/08\/20\/blog-boeing-scandale-dans-la-famille\/","title":{"rendered":"<em>Blog<\/em> &amp; Boeing, scandale dans la famille"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Comme pour venir renforcer, selon une autre approche, la pol\u00e9mique Loren B. Thompson\/<em>Early Warning<\/em>  dont nous tentons d&rsquo;exposer les arcanes dans notre <em>F&#038;C<\/em> de ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-blog_et_bad-blog_20_08_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">20 ao\u00fbt 2009<\/a>, une autre affaire agite le monde qualifi\u00e9 en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de blogosph\u00e8re, mais aussi le monde de la d\u00e9fense. Il s&rsquo;agit de l&rsquo;affaire du <em>blog<\/em> qui devrait \u00eatre  qui aurait d\u00fb \u00eatre ? On verra  lanc\u00e9 par Boeing en octobre prochaine. Il s&rsquo;agit de <em>Defensedialogue.com<\/em>, consacr\u00e9 aux questions de d\u00e9fense, en principe \u00e9dit\u00e9, directement ou pas, par Boeing Aerospace, division d\u00e9fense (IDS, pour <em>Integrated Defense System<\/em>).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa pol\u00e9mique vient de ce que l&rsquo;\u00e9diteur du <em>blog<\/em> s&rsquo;est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 \u00e0 un tr\u00e8s r\u00e9cent s\u00e9minaire, alors qu&rsquo;il pr\u00e9sentait <em>Defensedialogue.com<\/em>, comme une sorte d&rsquo;ind\u00e9pendant alors qu&rsquo;il est employ\u00e9 par Boeing. L&rsquo;affaire a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9e par <em>Defense Daily<\/em> (acc\u00e8s payant), qui d\u00e9pend du m\u00eame groupe qu&rsquo;<em>Aviation Week &#038; Spoect technology<\/em>. Diverses r\u00e9actions ont aussit\u00f4t fus\u00e9  Stephen Trimble, sur <em>DEW Line<\/em>, un <em>blog<\/em> de <em>Flight International<\/em>, ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flightglobal.com\/blogs\/the-dewline\/2009\/08\/a-defense-industry-blog-scanda.html\" class=\"gen\">18 ao\u00fbt 2009<\/a>.   Nathan Hodge, sur <em>Danger Room<\/em>, un <em>blog<\/em> ind\u00e9pendant, ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wired.com\/dangerroom\/2009\/08\/corporate-blogger-or-corporate-espionage\/\" class=\"gen\">19 ao\u00fbt 2009<\/a>  Paul MacLearey, sur <em>Ares<\/em>, le <em>blog<\/em> d&rsquo;<em>Aviation Week &#038; Space Technology<\/em>, ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aviationweek.com\/aw\/blogs\/defense\/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&#038;plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&#038;newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&#038;plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3aed4d6419-8164-4288-8f59-c16b2f81d42a&#038;plckScript=blogScript&#038;plckElementId=blogDest\" class=\"gen\">19 ao\u00fbt 2009<\/a>. Etc.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tTrimble expose bien l&rsquo;affaire, d&rsquo;autant qu&rsquo;il \u00e9tait pr\u00e9sent lors du s\u00e9minaire que nous mentionnons plus haut.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Boeing [BA] is conducting an internal investigation into a nascent social media effort after a company spokesman posed as an independent blogger and sat in on several briefings of archrival Northrop Grumman [NOC] at a trade show last week.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Doug Cantwell, a company spokesman who works out of one of Boeing&rsquo;s Washington state facilities, preregistered for last week&rsquo;s Association for Unmanned Vehicles System International (AUVSI) symposium as an independent blogger working for Defensedialogue.com, according to a spokeswoman for AUVSI. By not identifying himself as a Boeing employee, Cantwell went against company policy, Dan Beck, a Boeing a spokesman, told Defense Daily yesterday. Boeing policy is clear.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Full disclosure: I attended the same briefings that Cantwell attended. In addition to the Northrop briefing, he also sat in on a briefing by AAI Corp, which is competing against Boeing for the STUAS\/Tier II contract. I of course was aware that Cantwell is a Boeing employee. I&rsquo;ve known him for several years. It surprised me that he identified himself as a Defensedialogue.com reporter when he asked questions. I assumed that Northrop&rsquo;s and AAI&rsquo;s flacks knew of his Boeing affiliation as well, but I should have asked.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>More full disclosure: I was also fully aware of Boeing&rsquo;s plans for Defensedialogue.com, which as I understand is intended to be a leading news and information portal. It is the brainchild of former Business Week reporter Stanley Holmes, who now works for Boeing, reporting to IDS Communications Vice President Mary Foerster.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tD&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, Trimble juge (jugeait?) excellente l&rsquo;id\u00e9e d&rsquo;un <em>blog<\/em> Boeing, dans la mesure \u00e9vidente o\u00f9 la chose est identifi\u00e9e comme telle: \u00ab<em>I generally support the idea of defense companies getting into the blogging business. There is an intense discussion about the aerospace industry in the blogosphere. It would be a pity if the industry&rsquo;s voice is the only one absent. I intended to reserve judgment about Defensedialogue.com until I saw it in published form.<\/em> [] <em>But my biggest concern is that this episode will force Boeing to retreat from the blogosphere altogether, just as the conversation really starts to get interesting.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tD&rsquo;autres sont violemment oppos\u00e9s \u00e0 l&rsquo;initiative elle-m\u00eame, comme Hodge, de <em>Danger Room<\/em>. Apr\u00e8s avoir cit\u00e9 Trimble, favorable \u00e0 l&rsquo;initiative Boeing, il commente pour son compte:<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>I see something of a different problem. It&rsquo;s hard enough working as a reporter for a non-traditional news outlet. Securing accreditation, getting visas, convincing officials to grant access or  interviews   all the things you need to do your job  will be much harder when you have to persuade someone that, yes, your blog  is a legitimate, independent news outlet and no, you&rsquo;re not masquerading as a reporter for the purposes of collecting intel, corporate or otherwise. Corporate blogging passed off as independent newsgathering does not advance the cause of new media.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>And it&rsquo;s particularly troubling when traditional journalism jobs  particularly in newspapers  are rapidly disappearing. A venture like Defensedialogue.com, it seems, opens the door to more cynical operators who are willing to blur the lines between journalism and other lines of business.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous serions bien tent\u00e9 de prendre partie dans cette querelle, qui se r\u00e9sume finalement sur son principe \u00e0 ceci: un grand groupe doit-il ou non avoir des <em>blogs<\/em>, ce qui revient \u00e0 se demander s&rsquo;il doit avoir des sites qui sont un peu plus parler vrai que les sites officiels qui p\u00e8sent des tonnes et diffusent \u00e0 la louche la langue de bois? Et la r\u00e9ponse est oui, \u00e9videmment. Qu&rsquo;ils viennent, d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on un peu plus anim\u00e9e, un peu plus pol\u00e9mique, un peu plus agressive, dans le r\u00e9seau de l&rsquo;information, et nous pourrons en tirer la substantifique moelle  car il est toujours excellent de voir les puissances plong\u00e9es jusqu&rsquo;au cou dans le virtualisme se risquer dans l&rsquo;ar\u00e8ne de l&rsquo;information qui se bat, dans tous les sens qu&rsquo;importe, contre ce virtualisme officiel. Dieu reconna\u00eetra les siens d\u00e8s lors que tous les siens et les autres sont pr\u00e9sents dans la bagarre. (Par rapport \u00e0 cet enjeu, le cas sp\u00e9cifique Cantwell-Boeing est secondaire, puisque tout le monde connaissait d\u00e9j\u00e0 Cantwell comme employ\u00e9 de chez Boeing; il faut plut\u00f4t voir dans cette affaire une erreur de communication interne, une lourdeur bureaucratique et ainsi de suite.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tMais il y a des enseignements plus vastes \u00e0 tirer. Ils valent pour le domaine de la d\u00e9fense, qui est un domaine strat\u00e9gique de l&rsquo;information, et cette \u00e9volution a d\u00e9j\u00e0 \u00e9t\u00e9 signal\u00e9e par nous \u00e0 propos du JSF \u00e0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-le_net_contre_le_jsf_06_03_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">diverses<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-le_jsf_la_psychologie_et_l_hypothese_supreme_18_08_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">reprises<\/a>. Le fait est qu&rsquo;Internet est en train de balayer l&rsquo;information papier dans ce domaine, ce que confirme l&rsquo;initiative de Boeing. D&rsquo;ores et d\u00e9j\u00e0, il y a presque unanimit\u00e9 pour consid\u00e9rer que l&rsquo;information Internet dans le domaine de la d\u00e9fense, essentiellement les <em>blogs<\/em> annex\u00e9s aux publications, est incomparablement sup\u00e9rieure \u00e0 celle de la presse papier  <em>dito<\/em>, de la presse-<em>Pravda<\/em>, car dans ce domaine de la d\u00e9fense, largement d\u00e9pendant de la publicit\u00e9 \u00e9crasante des grands groupes, avec des journalistes-croupions en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral form\u00e9s \u00e0 cette \u00e9cole, la langue de bois et l&rsquo;alignement sur les consignes de la presse-papier est un ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne stup\u00e9fiant de puissance. Les principaux m\u00e9dias du domaine, anglo-saxons bien entendu, marchent d\u00e9sormais aux <em>blogs<\/em>, qui sont en fait les espaces laiss\u00e9s \u00e0 leurs collaborateurs les plus \u00e9minents, ceux qui sont les moins journalistes-croupions et qui piaffent de diffuser toutes les informations dont ils disposent. C&rsquo;est donc l\u00e0 qu&rsquo;on trouve les informations les plus int\u00e9ressantes. On a d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu, entre autres, l&rsquo;exemple de Bill <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-jsf_versus_sweetman_sous_le_regard_de_row__14_01_2009.html\" class=\"gen\">Sweetman<\/a>, suivi par d&rsquo;autres, comme Trimble. Leurs <em>blogs<\/em> deviennent le r\u00e9ceptacle de tout ce que les publications-<em>Pravda<\/em> (y compris celles auxquelles ils appartiennent) ne peuvent pas, n&rsquo;osent pas imprimer, donc d&rsquo;un int\u00e9r\u00eat infiniment sup\u00e9rieur. Pour les publications, qui respectent la loi-<em>Pravda<\/em> sur papier, c&rsquo;est une fa\u00e7on de regagner un peu de lustre journalistique sans trop se mouiller directement.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;initiative Boeing-<em>Defensedialogue.com<\/em>, si elle se concr\u00e9tise, va dans ce sens. Dans cette sorte de <em>blog<\/em>, les firmes y feront dire ce qu&rsquo;elles n&rsquo;osent dire d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on officielle, et cela sera \u00e9galement b\u00e9n\u00e9fice pour tout le monde. Si <em>Defensedialogue.com<\/em> d\u00e9marre effectivement, on peut \u00eatre s\u00fbr qu&rsquo;on y trouvera quelques infos croustillantes sur le JSF, puisqu&rsquo;il est av\u00e9r\u00e9 qu&rsquo;aujourd&rsquo;hui, Boeing, avec son F\/A-18, n&rsquo;a pas de plus grand adversaire que Lockheed Martin avec son F-35; il ne peut dire officiellement tout ce qu&rsquo;il pense et sait, il peut le faire dire par des <em>blogs<\/em>. Dans ce cas, l&rsquo;apparition du <em>blog<\/em>, c&rsquo;est l&rsquo;extension de la discorde chez l&rsquo;ennemi, et c&rsquo;est une excellente chose.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 20 ao\u00fbt 2009 \u00e0 12H03<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Comme pour venir renforcer, selon une autre approche, la pol\u00e9mique Loren B. Thompson\/Early Warning dont nous tentons d&rsquo;exposer les arcanes dans notre F&#038;C de ce 20 ao\u00fbt 2009, une autre affaire agite le monde qualifi\u00e9 en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de blogosph\u00e8re, mais aussi le monde de la d\u00e9fense. Il s&rsquo;agit de l&rsquo;affaire du blog qui devrait \u00eatre&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[8263,3192,4718,8589,60,8590,8377],"class_list":["post-71000","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-blog","tag-boeing","tag-danger","tag-ddefensedialogue-com","tag-internet","tag-room","tag-trimble"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71000","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=71000"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71000\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=71000"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=71000"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=71000"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}