{"id":71235,"date":"2009-11-03T09:21:46","date_gmt":"2009-11-03T09:21:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/11\/03\/bho-peut-il-etre-moi\/"},"modified":"2009-11-03T09:21:46","modified_gmt":"2009-11-03T09:21:46","slug":"bho-peut-il-etre-moi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2009\/11\/03\/bho-peut-il-etre-moi\/","title":{"rendered":"BHO peut-il \u00eatre moi?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Avec quelques phrases, nous revenons sur l’interview de Gorbatchev par The Nation<\/em>, qui est le th\u00e8me de notre F&C<\/em> du 2 novembre 2009<\/a>. Il s’agit du dernier \u00e9change questions-r\u00e9ponses (deux), qui concerne les USA d’aujourd’hui et Barack Obama aujourd’hui.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tThe Nation<\/em><\/strong>: \u00abListening to you, it seems that you became a political heretic in your country.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tGorbatchev<\/em><\/strong> : \u00abI think that is true. I want to add that I know America well now, having given speeches to large audiences there regularly. Three years ago I was speaking in the Midwest, and an American asked me this question: The situation in the United States is developing in a way that alarms us greatly. What would you advise us to do? I said, Giving advice, especially to Americans, is not for me. But I did say one general thing: that it seems to me that America needs its own American perestroika. Not ours. We needed ours, but you need yours. The entire audience stood and clapped for five minutes.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tThe Nation<\/em><\/strong>: \u00abAnd do you think President Obama will be the leader of such an American perestroika?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tThe Nation<\/em><\/strong>: \u00abAs far as I know, Americans did not make a mistake in electing him. Barack Obama is capable of leading your society on a very high level and of understanding it better than any political figure I know. He is an educated person with a highly developed capacity for dialogue, and that too is very important. So I congratulate you.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n

Notre commentaire<\/h4>\n

Oui, notre commentaire malgr\u00e9 que nous ayons souvent, d\u00e9j\u00e0, abord\u00e9 le probl\u00e8me. La r\u00e9ponse de Gorbatchev \u00e0 une question fort directe (le derni\u00e8re) est singuli\u00e8rement embrouill\u00e9e, insatisfaisante, un peu trop standard et notablement conformiste. Elle d\u00e9tonne compl\u00e8tement avec le reste de l’interview, toujours pour ce qui concerne les r\u00e9ponses de Gorbatchev. Ce que dit Gorbatchev en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, c’est, en quelques mots: C’est bien, vous Am\u00e9ricains vous avez fait ce que vous avez pu, vous avez \u00e9lu le plus intelligent, le plus capable, le plus audacieux. Mais quant \u00e0 dire que cela suffira pour une perestro\u00efka<\/em> \u00e0 la mode USA<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tGorbatchev, on le sait, a eu des contacts personnels<\/a> avec BHO. Cette r\u00e9ponse se place en fonction de ces contacts, qui n’ont pas \u00e9t\u00e9 de simple forme, qui ont dur\u00e9 un certain temps et ont marqu\u00e9 sans aucun doute des \u00e9changes substantiels. Gorbatchev s’est-il fait sa religion, qui serait dans ce cas BHO est sans doute l’homme le plus apte \u00e0 faire une perestro\u00efka<\/em> US (pour nous : une glasnost<\/em> US), mais il semble bien probable que, malgr\u00e9 ses qualit\u00e9s, il n’y parviendra sans doute pas? A la suite de ces contacts, surtout celui de Moscou de juillet dernier, des sources russes ayant eu des \u00e9chos de ces entretiens ont affirm\u00e9 que des sujets sensibles auraient \u00e9t\u00e9 abord\u00e9s entre BHO et Gorbatchev, notamment sur les questions tactiques de savoir comment parvenir \u00e0 d\u00e9bloquer la situation am\u00e9ricaniste. Gorbatchev aurait abord\u00e9 la question de la possibilit\u00e9 d’actions assez radicales ou abruptes, comme lui-m\u00eame avait fait dans la p\u00e9riode 1985-1989, et BHO aurait admis avec r\u00e9ticence qu’il s’agirait d’une possible n\u00e9cessit\u00e9, sans cacher qu’elle lui paraissait quasiment impossible \u00e0 concr\u00e9tiser \u00e0 cause des contraintes syst\u00e9miques, aussi bien des centres d’influence que de l’\u00e9clatement des pouvoirs et les contraintes du cadre l\u00e9gal.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tY aura-t-il encore des contacts entre BHO et Gorbatchev? C’est possible et, dirions-nous, selon l’\u00e9volution de la situation aux USA. Il est certain que ces contacts entre BHO et Gorbatchev ont \u00e9t\u00e9 vus d’un tr\u00e8s mauvais il par certains membres de l’administration et par la majorit\u00e9 de l’establishment<\/em> US. Les plus indulgents de ces critiques les consid\u00e8rent comme des caprices du pr\u00e9sident US sans cons\u00e9quences, mais dommageable par le manque de s\u00e9rieux qu’ils sugg\u00e8rent notamment aupr\u00e8s de l’establishment<\/em> financier am\u00e9ricaniste. Les plus inquiets les consid\u00e8rent comme dangereux pour l’\u00e9volution d’Obama par rapport \u00e0 l’establishment<\/em>. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\tMis en ligne le 3 novembre 2009 \u00e0 09H27<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Avec quelques phrases, nous revenons sur l’interview de Gorbatchev par The Nation, qui est le th\u00e8me de notre F&C du 2 novembre 2009. Il s’agit du dernier \u00e9change questions-r\u00e9ponses (deux), qui concerne les USA d’aujourd’hui et Barack Obama aujourd’hui. The Nation: \u00abListening to you, it seems that you became a political heretic in your country.\u00bb… <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[8002,8870,7554,3483,6208,7201],"class_list":["post-71235","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-bho","tag-contacts","tag-glasnost","tag-gorbatchev","tag-obama","tag-perestroika"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71235","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=71235"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71235\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=71235"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=71235"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=71235"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}