{"id":71561,"date":"2010-02-15T11:58:45","date_gmt":"2010-02-15T11:58:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/02\/15\/ce-que-pense-de-nous-celle-pour-laquelle-nous-nous-battons\/"},"modified":"2010-02-15T11:58:45","modified_gmt":"2010-02-15T11:58:45","slug":"ce-que-pense-de-nous-celle-pour-laquelle-nous-nous-battons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/02\/15\/ce-que-pense-de-nous-celle-pour-laquelle-nous-nous-battons\/","title":{"rendered":"Ce que pense de nous celle pour laquelle nous nous \u201cbattons\u201d (?)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h4>Ce que pense de nous celle pour laquelle nous nous battons (?)<\/h4>\n<p>Il est tristement ironique de lire ce que pense de l&rsquo;offensive am\u00e9ricaniste et otanienne en cours en Afghanistan, <a href=\"http:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Malalai_Joya\" class=\"gen\">Malalai Joya<\/a>, d\u00e9put\u00e9e afghane interdite d&rsquo;exercer parce que d\u00e9nonciatrice de la corruption de ses coll\u00e8gues, f\u00e9ministe, de gauche, bref la personne embl\u00e9matique pour laquelle tous les salons parisiens et adjacents sont partis en croisade en Afghanistan \u00ab<em>It is ridiculous<\/em>\u00bb<D>, dit-elle de la strat\u00e9gie de l&rsquo;OTAN, de notre grande guerre et du g\u00e9nial g\u00e9n\u00e9ral McChrystal. Ainsi nous en instruit <em>The Independent<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/asia\/joya-condemns-ridiculous-military-strategy-1899547.html\" class=\"gen\">15 f\u00e9vrier 2010<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tC&rsquo;est tristement ironique ou ironiquement d\u00e9risoire de voir ceux pour lesquels nous sommes partis en guerre, \u00e0 juste titre pourrait-on croire apr\u00e8s tout, nous regarder faire notre guerre (celle qui rassure nos consciences), et nous consid\u00e9rer pour ce que nous sommes,  des rustres, des paltoquets, des barbares et des sauvages,  des incivilis\u00e9s en un mot invent\u00e9 vite fait pour l&rsquo;occasion. A part la barbe, on se demande ce qui diff\u00e9rencie, pour l&rsquo;enfermement de l&rsquo;esprit, l&rsquo;\u00e9troitesse du jugement et le z\u00e8le du croyant (l&rsquo;un en Allah, l&rsquo;autre en saint-technologisme), un taliban d&rsquo;un McChrystal,  sauf que, apr\u00e8s tout, le taliban est chez lui et McChrystal non, et qu&rsquo;Allah a peut-\u00eatre un petit peu plus de l\u00e9gitimit\u00e9 que le technologisme.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tEcoutons Joya qui, elle aussi, est chez elle.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Afghanistan&rsquo;s most famous woma\u00a0\u00bb has voiced deep scepticism about Operation Moshtarak&rsquo;s aims and its impact on Afghan civilians.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>It is ridiculous, said Malalai Joya, an elected member of the Afghan parliament. On the one hand they call on Mullah Omar to join the puppet regime. On another hand they launch this attack in which defenceless and poor people will be the prime victims. Like before, they will be killed in the Nato bombings and used as human shields by the Taliban. Helmand&rsquo;s people have suffered for years and thousands of innocent people have been killed so far. Her fears were confirmed when Nato reported yesterday that a rocket that missed its target had killed 12 civilians at a house in Marjah.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Dismissing Allied claims that Nato forces won&rsquo;t abandon Afghan civilians after the surge, she said: They have launched such offensives a number of times in the past, but each time after clearing the area, they leave it and [the] Taliban retake it. This is just a military manoeuvre and removal of Taliban is not the prime objective.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Ms Joya believes that corruption is endemic, citing uranium deposits and opium as incentives for Nato and Afghan officials to retain a presence in Helmand. Operation Moshtarak is described as an inclusive offensive, depending for its longer-term success on involvement of Afghan forces. But Ms Joya said: The Afghan police force is the most corrupt institution in Afghanistan. Bribery is common and if you have money, by bribing police from top to bottom you can do almost anything. In many parts of Afghanistan, people hate the police more than the Taliban. In Helmand, for instance, people are afraid of police who commit violence against people and make trouble. The majority of the police force in this province are addicted to opium and cannabis.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPour terminer, l&rsquo;article signale que Joya, qui n&rsquo;a surtout pas \u00e9t\u00e9 invit\u00e9e \u00e0 la r\u00e9cente conf\u00e9rence de Londres o\u00f9 elle aurait pu \u00e9lever des objections, est plut\u00f4t consid\u00e9r\u00e9e par les politiciens (aussi bien Mr. Brown et Mr. Sarkozy que Mr. Karza\u00ef, sans doute?), plut\u00f4t, disons, comme une emmerdeuse, quelque chose du genre; incroyable, elle se permet de critiquer \u00ab<em>Politicians regard Joya as a loose cannon: quick to criticise but slow to suggest solutions.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<p class=\"signature\"><em>dedefensa.org<\/em><\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ce que pense de nous celle pour laquelle nous nous battons (?) Il est tristement ironique de lire ce que pense de l&rsquo;offensive am\u00e9ricaniste et otanienne en cours en Afghanistan, Malalai Joya, d\u00e9put\u00e9e afghane interdite d&rsquo;exercer parce que d\u00e9nonciatrice de la corruption de ses coll\u00e8gues, f\u00e9ministe, de gauche, bref la personne embl\u00e9matique pour laquelle tous&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[3236,3908,9273,9272],"class_list":["post-71561","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ouverture-libre","tag-afghanistan","tag-barbare","tag-feministe","tag-joya"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71561","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=71561"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71561\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=71561"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=71561"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=71561"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}