{"id":71639,"date":"2010-03-08T04:48:40","date_gmt":"2010-03-08T04:48:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/03\/08\/the-system-is-broken-et-la-turquie\/"},"modified":"2010-03-08T04:48:40","modified_gmt":"2010-03-08T04:48:40","slug":"the-system-is-broken-et-la-turquie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/03\/08\/the-system-is-broken-et-la-turquie\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201c<em>The system is broken<\/em>\u201d et la Turquie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>L&rsquo;affaire du vote de la commission des relations ext\u00e9rieures de la Chambre des Repr\u00e9sentants US sur l&rsquo;appellation de g\u00e9nocide appliqu\u00e9e au massacre des Arm\u00e9niens en 1915 semble montrer un exemple r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur du fonctionnement, sous la forme d&rsquo;un dysfonctionnement syst\u00e9matique, du pouvoir \u00e0 Washington.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t L&rsquo;article le plus int\u00e9ressant \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard est celui de Laura Rozen, de <em>Politico.com<\/em> le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.politico.com\/blogs\/laurarozen\/0310\/Who_dropped_the_ball_on_Armenia_resolution_.html?showall\" class=\"gen\">5 mars 2010<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>&#8230;Did the administration drop the ball on the Armenia genocide resolution?<\/em> [] <em>Hill staffers and Democratic foreign policy hands say neither the White House nor State tried to stop Rep. Howard Berman (D-Cal.), chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, from proceeding with the committee mark-up of the nonbinding resolution until the night before it was scheduled. This though Berman had publicly announced the intention to schedule the mark-up over a month before. Committee aides said there had been no pressure against the resolution from the White House, the AP reported last month.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Berman announced way in advance he was scheduling this, one Washington Democratic foreign policy hand said. They are basically asking Please stop me.&rsquo; And they did not hear a word from the administration, I am being told, until the night before.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Clinton called Berman Wednesday night from Latin America, State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said Thursday. And in that conversation, she indicated that further congressional action could impede progress on normalization of relations, between Armenia and Turkey, Crowley said. I think the President also spoke yesterday with [Turkish] President Gul and expressed appreciation for his and Prime Minister Erdogan&rsquo;s efforts to normalize relations between Turkey and Armenia.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>We are concerned that possible action that Congress would take would impede the positive momentum that we see in the Turkey-Armenia normalization process, Crowley said. We&rsquo;ve made that position clear to Chairman Berman, and we&rsquo;ll see what Congress does as a result. But the Democratic foreign policy hand said the Wednesday night efforts were too late. Berman is a politician. If he folds then, he looks like a poodle.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>My impression is that State weighed in [Wednesday] but that with the Armenia resolution, as with all other things, White House\/NSC legislative affairs was completely asleep at the wheel, one Hill staffer said. Consequently the White House discovered&rsquo; the problem yesterday when call slips started finding their way to higher-ups. As best I can tell, with regard to foreign policy, both White House\/NSC legislative affairs shops could shut down entirely and no one would even notice, the staffer added.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Un commentateur du journal turc <em>Hurriyet Daily News<\/em>, Ilhan Tanir<D>, rapporte le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hurriyetdailynews.com\/n.php?n=a-game-chicken-for-turkey-and-america-2010-03-05\" class=\"gen\">5 mars 2010<\/a> d&rsquo;autres d\u00e9tails en m\u00eame temps qu&rsquo;il analyse la perspective politique de cette affaire. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>There were also personal issues for Obama to deal with while taking a position on the issue this year. As a senator, he vigorously supported the previous Armenian resolutions and accused former President Bush very harshly in the past for working to stop the resolution. As president, he now finds himself in such a position from which there is no easy exit strategy. In addition, Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also supported similar bills in the past and Congress is dominated by a Democratic majority. Obama hid behind this quietness and did not move his little finger, as one Turkish deputy stated.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>So what is left for us while moving forward? What we will see in the coming days is probably a game of chicken. Turkey will harden its rhetoric and take more retaliatory steps, while the American side will calculate that it can use the resolution in the House to put more pressure on Turkey and hope that Turkey give in to move forward with the normalization process, while being full aware how important it is for Turkey to stop the resolution.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>We might need to fasten our seatbelts while getting into this turbulence. How and when this turbulence might end, nobody can predict now, not even the administrations in Washington, Ankara and Yerevan, but we hope it will not spin out of control.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t  Examinant cette affaire avec les cons\u00e9quences possibles, le <em>Guardian<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2010\/mar\/05\/turkey-us-vote-armenian-genocide\" class=\"gen\">5 mars 2010<\/a> cite un des dirigeants du parti AKP du Premuer ministre Erdogan.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>In Turkey, Suat Kiniklioglu, the influential deputy chairman for external affairs in the ruling Justice and Development party (AKP), warned of major cons\u00e9quences if the resolution was accepted by the full House of Representatives. If they choose to bring this to the floor they will have to face the fact that the consequences would be serious  the relationship would be downgraded at every level, he said. Everything from Afghanistan to Pakistan to Iraq to the Middle East process would be affected. There would be major disruption to the relationship between Turkey and the US.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>His comments reflected deep-seated anger throughout Turkish society, as well as an official determination to press the Obama administration into making sure the resolution progresses no further.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<h4>Notre commentaire<\/h4>\n<p> Ce jugement, \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de cette affaire, d&rsquo;une source proche de la commission de la Chambre qui a vot\u00e9 la r\u00e9solution sur l&#8217;emploi du mot g\u00e9nocide, est particuli\u00e8rement r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur: \u00ab<em>As best I can tell, with regard to foreign policy, both White House\/NSC legislative affairs shops could shut down entirely and no one would even notice<\/em>\u00bb L&rsquo;affaire du g\u00e9nocide&rsquo; arm\u00e9nien ou pas, que nous avons trait\u00e9e le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_morale_de_l_histoire_05_03_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">5 mars 2010<\/a> du point de vue ext\u00e9rieur, des relations USA-Turquie et, surtout, du point de vue de l&rsquo;\u00e9volution de la Turquie, est \u00e9galement tr\u00e8s importante pour son aspect <strong>int\u00e9rieur<\/strong> US.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous avons \u00e9crit que les Turcs avaient re\u00e7u des indications extr\u00eamement fermes selon lesquelles l&rsquo;administration Obama ferait ce qu&rsquo;il faudrait pour emp\u00eacher ce vote, \u00e0 la suite de demandes pressantes du gouvernement Erdogan. Ces indications venaient notamment des services de l&rsquo;ambassade US \u00e0 Ankara, cens\u00e9e repr\u00e9senter les USA et son gouvernement, et d\u00e9pendante directement du d\u00e9partement d&rsquo;Etat. Ce qu&rsquo;\u00e9crit <em>Polilico.com<\/em>, qui est confirm\u00e9 ici ou l\u00e0 par telle et telle indication,  tout cela allant dans le m\u00eame sens,  montre que rien n&rsquo;a \u00e9t\u00e9 fait. On va jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 d\u00e9couvrir que la Maison-Blanche, et Hillary Clinton semble-t-il, se sont aper\u00e7us du probl\u00e8me la veille du vote de la commission, ou quasiment. Leur intervention <em>in extremis<\/em>, dans ces conditions grotesques, ne pouvait donner de r\u00e9sultats d\u00e9cisifs, on le comprend: le pr\u00e9sident de la commission, le d\u00e9mocrate Berman, est un politicien, il ne pouvait obtemp\u00e9rer sur l&rsquo;instant sous peine de passer pour une marionnette. Pourtant, comme on le comprend \u00e9galement, Berman \u00e9tait pr\u00eat \u00e0 monter une strat\u00e9gie \u00e0 plus long terme pour \u00e9viter le r\u00e9sultat finalement obtenu, s&rsquo;il avait eu le soutien de l&rsquo;administration. Mais l&rsquo;administration dormait. L\u00e0-dessus, cerise sur le g\u00e2teau, on encha\u00eene par le rappel que les uns et les autres (Obama, Clinton, Biden) avaient soutenu la cause arm\u00e9nienne dans d&rsquo;autres circonstances politiciennes et n&rsquo;ont jamais jug\u00e9 utile de se d\u00e9marquer de cette position id\u00e9ologique et \u00e9lectoraliste pour pr\u00e9parer cette affaire, selon une appr\u00e9ciation r\u00e9aliste du maintien de ce qu&rsquo;il reste de bonnes relations entre Washington et les Turcs.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCe n&rsquo;est pas un d\u00e9sastre politique, c&rsquo;est un  sympt\u00f4me de plus que, selon le leitmotiv, <em>The system is broken<\/em>. Le pouvoir est dispers\u00e9, il vogue au gr\u00e9 des \u00e9v\u00e9nements et du d\u00e9sordre am\u00e9ricaniste, avec une obsession ou l&rsquo;autre qui garde la t\u00eate hors de l&rsquo;eau (l&rsquo;obsession d&rsquo;Obama pour un accord bipartisan sur les soins de sant\u00e9 qui est en train de pulv\u00e9riser sa pr\u00e9sidence). Il n&rsquo;y a aucune coordination, aucune consultation. Les assurances de l&rsquo;ambassade US \u00e0 Ankara non relay\u00e9es, voire contredites par Washington, rappellent l&rsquo;incident de la mi-f\u00e9vrier encore plus marquant (\u00e0 cause de l&rsquo;actualit\u00e9 plus grande de l&rsquo;affaire dans l&rsquo;agenda des bureaucraties de Washington, dont celle du Pentagone) entre l&rsquo;ambassadeur US \u00e0 Moscou et le d\u00e9partement d&rsquo;Etat \u00e0 propos des anti-missiles et de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-start-ii_ou_la_cacophonie_washingtonienne_15_02_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">SALT-II<\/a>, le second d\u00e9mentant le premier d&rsquo;un jour \u00e0 l&rsquo;autre. (Mais, dans ce cas, les cons\u00e9quences devraient \u00eatre moins graves que dans le cas turc car la question de SALT-II est d&rsquo;une autre teneur, les USA ayant encore plus d&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eats que les Russes \u00e0 ce que l&rsquo;accord se fasse, donc pr\u00eats \u00e0 faire beaucoup d&rsquo;efforts dans ce sens.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<em>The system is broken<\/em>, c&rsquo;est donc une situation de dysfonctionnement compl\u00e8te et multiple, plus personne ne se coordonnant avec plus personne, chaque groupe repli\u00e9 sur ses centres d&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eats imm\u00e9diats. Les dirigeants, eux, sont perdus dans leurs contradictions et la m\u00e9sinformation que leur dispensent leurs groupes rapproch\u00e9s de conseillers qui n&rsquo;agissent qu&rsquo;en fonction des seuls int\u00e9r\u00eats imm\u00e9diats de l&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 qu&rsquo;ils servent, sans aucune vision objective globale des probl\u00e8mes. L\u00e0-dessus, les processus autobloquants, bureaucratiques, parlementaires et des groupes d&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat entretiennent une paralysie g\u00e9n\u00e9rale qui se greffe sur ces dysfonctionnements divers. Dans le cas de l&rsquo;affaire de la r\u00e9solution de la Chambre, l&rsquo;imbroglio et le d\u00e9sordre extraordinaires sont  mis en lumi\u00e8re par la situation particuli\u00e8rement r\u00e9v\u00e9latrice o\u00f9, sur les 23 voix favorables \u00e0 la d\u00e9nomination de g\u00e9nocide, on trouve celles de 19 Repr\u00e9sentants d\u00e9mocrates,  le parti du pr\u00e9sident, de l&rsquo;administration dont l&rsquo;ambassadeur \u00e0 Ankara avait affirm\u00e9 qu&rsquo;on s&rsquo;activait \u00e0 emp\u00eacher ce vote.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tQuoi qu&rsquo;il arrive dans l&rsquo;imm\u00e9diat, soit pour tenter de limiter les d\u00e9g\u00e2ts, soit pour voir dans l&rsquo;autre sens une perte de contr\u00f4le de cette affaire, la le\u00e7on que retiendront les Turcs est imparable. Le pouvoir washingtonien est pulv\u00e9ris\u00e9, on ne peut plus esp\u00e9rer avoir des relations suivies et constructives avec lui et, notamment, on ne peut esp\u00e9rer qu&rsquo;il puisse influer d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on suivie sur une politique ou l&rsquo;autre du syst\u00e8me de l&rsquo;am\u00e9ricanisme, souvent avec des cons\u00e9quences d\u00e9vastatrices. Pour les partenaires des USA, il s&rsquo;agit de d\u00e9sordre bien plus que d&rsquo;une ligne directrice qu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;approuve pas. Cela nous renforce dans notre constat, du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_morale_de_l_histoire_05_03_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">5 mars 2010<\/a>, selon lequel la Turquie va prendre encore plus ses distances de Washington et acc\u00e9l\u00e9rer le d\u00e9veloppement d&rsquo;une politique dont la caract\u00e9ristique essentielle est qu&rsquo;elle repousse d\u00e9sormais toute priorit\u00e9 accord\u00e9e aux liens avec Washington.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 8 mars 2010 \u00e0 04H49<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L&rsquo;affaire du vote de la commission des relations ext\u00e9rieures de la Chambre des Repr\u00e9sentants US sur l&rsquo;appellation de g\u00e9nocide appliqu\u00e9e au massacre des Arm\u00e9niens en 1915 semble montrer un exemple r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur du fonctionnement, sous la forme d&rsquo;un dysfonctionnement syst\u00e9matique, du pouvoir \u00e0 Washington. L&rsquo;article le plus int\u00e9ressant \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard est celui de Laura Rozen,&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[7121,5034,9361,4757,9286,3569,3050,2613,3248],"class_list":["post-71639","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-armenie","tag-broken","tag-dysfonctionnement","tag-genocide","tag-is","tag-system","tag-the","tag-turquie","tag-washington"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71639","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=71639"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/71639\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=71639"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=71639"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=71639"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}