{"id":72047,"date":"2010-07-05T12:49:14","date_gmt":"2010-07-05T12:49:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/07\/05\/pour-lusaf-apres-les-russes-les-ukrainiens\/"},"modified":"2010-07-05T12:49:14","modified_gmt":"2010-07-05T12:49:14","slug":"pour-lusaf-apres-les-russes-les-ukrainiens","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/07\/05\/pour-lusaf-apres-les-russes-les-ukrainiens\/","title":{"rendered":"Pour l&rsquo;USAF, \u2013 apr\u00e8s les Russes, les Ukrainiens"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h4>Pour l&rsquo;USAF,  apr\u00e8s les Russes, les Ukrainiens<\/h4>\n<p>En mars 2010, on avait annonc\u00e9 la nouvelle, accueillie de fa\u00e7on fort sceptique, d&rsquo;une soumission d&rsquo;un constructeur russe pour le march\u00e9 des ravitailleurs en vol de l&rsquo;USAF (KC-X ou KC-45). La nouvelle avait \u00e9t\u00e9 entrecoup\u00e9e de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-contribution_russe_au_chaos_des_tankers_de_l_usaf_22_03_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">confusions<\/a>, de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-le_tanker-_canard_l_avocat_kirkland_se_fache_23_03_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">confirmations<\/a> et de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-l_etrange_affaire_du_tanker_devenu_canard_a_la_russe_23_03_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">d\u00e9mentis<\/a> divers, et surtout d&rsquo;exclamations que l&rsquo;ancienne URSS p\u00fbt concevoir d&rsquo;offrir un \u00e9quipement \u00e0 l&rsquo;USAF. Puis, plus rien.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPuis, \u00e0 nouveau quelque chose, si l&rsquo;on admet que l&rsquo;on parle du vaste ensemble sovi\u00e9tique dont la vieille nation ukrainienne fit aussi partie. En effet, il s&rsquo;agit cette fois d&rsquo;une offre du constructeur Antonov de participer au march\u00e9 des ravitailleurs en vol de l&rsquo;USAF. La soci\u00e9t\u00e9 Antonov, d\u00e9velopp\u00e9e du temps de l&rsquo;URSS, alors que l&rsquo;Ukraine \u00e9tait annex\u00e9e pour le pouvoir communiste, est effectivement devenue ukrainienne lorsque l&rsquo;ind\u00e9pendance fut donn\u00e9e \u00e0 ce pays. Apr\u00e8s l&rsquo;\u00e9trange association Illiouchine\/UAC, voici la non moins \u00e9tonnante association Antonov\/U.S. Aerospace.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe seul commentaire audacieux (!) qu&rsquo;on avancera est que cette affaire, si elle est seulement prise au s\u00e9rieux, aura au moins le m\u00e9rite d&rsquo;apporter encore plus de confusion dans l&rsquo;\u00e9tonnant marigot d&rsquo;incertitudes et de sur-places divers que constitue l&rsquo;affaire des ravitailleurs en vol de l&rsquo;USAF.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tParmi les divers m\u00e9dias annon\u00e7ant la nouvelle, voici le <em>blog<\/em> d&rsquo;<em>Aviation Week<\/em>, connu sous le nom de <em>Ares<\/em>, sous la signature de Amy Butler le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aviationweek.com\/aw\/blogs\/defense\/index.jsp?plckController=Blog&#038;plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&#038;newspaperUserId=27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7&#038;plckPostId=Blog%3a27ec4a53-dcc8-42d0-bd3a-01329aef79a7Post%3a028b69a8-288f-42cb-b368-c5b00ecf773e&#038;plckScript=blogScript&#038;plckElementId=blogDest\" class=\"gen\">2 juillet 2010<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>A California-based company called U.S. Aerospace has filed papers with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission to lead a bid of Ukrainian state-owned  Antonov aircraft for the U.S. Air Force KC-135 replacement program, estimated to be worth up to $35 billion. This would pit this odd couple against Boeing, with a 767, and EADS proposing the A330.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The papers were filed July 1, and the company says it anticipates proposing three aircraft, the AN-124-KC, AN-122-KC and a to-be-defined AN-112-KC. It says the company is shooting for a low price.It is unclear whether this means a single bid of multiple platforms, or three bids. Bids are said to take hundreds of millions of dollars to craft.<\/em> [] <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>A call to the company was answered by a kindly gentleman who greeted with: New Century, which refers to the company&rsquo;s remanufacturing business. He referred me to another number, and a receptionist mentioned that the office was empty due to the holiday, but gave me the name of the chief negotiator of the deal, one Chuck Arnold. I haven&rsquo;t yet heard back from him, but will update when I do.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>I&rsquo;m skeptical this can be pulled off. We know nothing about what type of boom will be provided to handle the 5,000 GPM offload rate, who would handle sensitive defensive systems and how parts supply and logistics would be guaranteed. And, how would DoD even begin to rate past performance; it doesn&rsquo;t look like there is a record of major prime contract work here?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<p class=\"signature\"><em>dedefensa.org<\/em><\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pour l&rsquo;USAF, apr\u00e8s les Russes, les Ukrainiens En mars 2010, on avait annonc\u00e9 la nouvelle, accueillie de fa\u00e7on fort sceptique, d&rsquo;une soumission d&rsquo;un constructeur russe pour le march\u00e9 des ravitailleurs en vol de l&rsquo;USAF (KC-X ou KC-45). La nouvelle avait \u00e9t\u00e9 entrecoup\u00e9e de confusions, de confirmations et de d\u00e9mentis divers, et surtout d&rsquo;exclamations que l&rsquo;ancienne&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[9795,4581,4582,1296,41],"class_list":["post-72047","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ouverture-libre","tag-antonov","tag-kc-45","tag-tankers","tag-ukraine","tag-usaf"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72047","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=72047"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72047\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=72047"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=72047"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=72047"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}