{"id":72563,"date":"2010-12-11T11:26:42","date_gmt":"2010-12-11T11:26:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/12\/11\/ainsi-il-paraitrait-que-nous-sommes-le-cinquieme-pouvoir\/"},"modified":"2010-12-11T11:26:42","modified_gmt":"2010-12-11T11:26:42","slug":"ainsi-il-paraitrait-que-nous-sommes-le-cinquieme-pouvoir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/12\/11\/ainsi-il-paraitrait-que-nous-sommes-le-cinquieme-pouvoir\/","title":{"rendered":"Ainsi, il para\u00eetrait que nous sommes le \u201cCinqui\u00e8me Pouvoir\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ainsi, il para\u00eetrait que nous sommes le Cinqui\u00e8me Pouvoir<\/h4>\n

Ray McGovern, ancien analyste (durant 27 ans) de la CIA donne une fort int\u00e9ressante interview \u00e0 RAW Story<\/em> le 10 d\u00e9cembre 2010<\/a>. Il tire quelques le\u00e7ons personnelles de l’affaire Cablegate<\/em>, toujours en cours. En gros, trois observations, dont la troisi\u00e8me viendra plus bas, et ces observations r\u00e9sum\u00e9es par cette phrase l’Empire est menac\u00e9 par un lance-pierre sous la forme d’un ordinateur David et Goliath, revus version postmoderniste.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tLes deux premi\u00e8res le\u00e7ons tir\u00e9s par Ray McGovern (qui fait partie d’un groupe d’anciens officiers des services de renseignement US qui se sont regroup\u00e9s en une association critique des pratiques actuelles du Syst\u00e8me, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity<\/em>).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t Le Quatri\u00e8me Pouvoir est mort. (Dito<\/em>, la presse libre et ind\u00e9pendante, grassement r\u00e9tribu\u00e9e, qu’il nous est parfois arriv\u00e9 de d\u00e9signer sous l’expression de presse-Pravda<\/em>.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t Un Cinqui\u00e8me Pouvoir est n\u00e9, qui est l’information et le commentaire sur Internet, contre lequel le Syst\u00e8me lui-m\u00eame ne peut pas grand’chose parce qu’il a ses int\u00e9r\u00eats commerciaux et strat\u00e9giques engag\u00e9s dans le bon fonctionnement de ce r\u00e9seau mondial de communication. Aujourd’hui, Cablegate<\/em> est l’illustration de ce Cinqui\u00e8me Pouvoir en action.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00ab The Empire is being threatened by a slingshot in the form of a computer. Traditional lines of communication between the people and the press have fallen into such disrepair in America that a whole new approach is necessary to challenge the military-industrial-governmental complex, according to a former CIA analyst sympathetic to WikiLeaks.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe Fourth Estate is dead, Ray McGovern, of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, told Raw Story in an exclusive interview. The Fourth Estate in his country has been captured by government and corporations, the military-industrial complex, the intelligence apparatus. Captive! So, there is no Fourth Estate.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbMcGovern explained that the term the Fourth Estate, known today as the news media in the US, was first coined by 18th century British statesman Edmund Burke. Burke is said to have pointed to the balcony in Parliament and lauded the print media of his day for being the safeguards of democracy. That was very powerful back then, McGovern said. And just a century later you get Tom Paine, James Madison. You know what Thomas Jefferson said? He said if we have to make a choice between having a government and having a press, I’ll go for the press every time. He understood that any government without a free press will resort to despotism.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbMcGovern, a CIA analyst for 27 years, whose duties included preparing and briefing the President’s Daily Brief and chairing National Intelligence Estimates, said that he preferred to focus on the First Amendment battle of WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange than on the current cyber war in which WikiLeaks is embroiled.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbMcGovern said that modern people can now become informed through what he termed The Fifth Estate. Luckily, there is a Fifth Estate, he said. The Fifth Estate exists in the ether. It’s not susceptible of government, of corporations, or advertisers or military control. It’s free. That is very dangerous to people who like to make secrets and to make secret operational things. It’s a huge threat. And the Empire the Goliath here is being threatened by a slingshot in the form of a computer and a stone through these emissions thrown into the ether to our own computers. It’s quite amazing, he added.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tPlus loin dans son interview, McGovern met en \u00e9vidence son troisi\u00e8me constat, que nous avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 nous-m\u00eames soulign\u00e9 (voir notre texte du 6 d\u00e9cembre 2010<\/a> : \u00ab Un acteur nouveau complique le jeu et rend le nud du pi\u00e8ge ind\u00e9m\u00ealable: l’intervention de la presse-Pravda. Cette presse a \u00e9t\u00e9 attir\u00e9e \u00e0 la coop\u00e9ration par relais au d\u00e9part par Wikileaks, sans songer \u00e0 refuser une offre qui impliquait \u00e0 la fois une concurrence et une \u00e9mulation entre des m\u00e9dias de diff\u00e9rentes nationalit\u00e9s<\/em>\u00bb)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t En effet, McGovern souligne l’habilet\u00e9 de Wikileaks<\/em> d’avoir impliqu\u00e9 plusieurs grands quotidiens de diff\u00e9rents pays, impliquant par l\u00e0, effectivement, l’aiguillon de la comp\u00e9tition et de la concurrence, autant que l’attrait romantique du scoop<\/em> dont s’illusionnent encore les journalistes de la presse-Pravda<\/em>. (Ainsi cette phrase incroyable de vanit\u00e9 journalistique de la presse-Pravda<\/em>, dans la newsletter<\/em> Les titres du jour du Monde<\/em>, le 8 novembre 2010: \u00ab Dans des m\u00e9mos diplomatiques obtenus par WikiLeaks et r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9s par Le Monde, l’ambassade am\u00e9ricaine d\u00e9taille les transactions de la quasi-mafia qui entoure le chef de l’Etat tunisien.<\/em> \u00bb Grande innovation journalistique \u00e0 notre connaissance, une r\u00e9v\u00e9lation, ou scoop<\/em>, du Monde<\/em>, \u00e0 partir d’un des 250.000 documents que Wikileaks<\/em> distribue depuis deux semaines \u00e0 travers le monde, \u00e0 qui les veut.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tMcGovern : \u00abEven while the Fourth Estate may be dead, WikiLeaks learned one important lesson from Daniel Ellsberg’s release of the Pentagon Papers, McGovern admitted. That lesson was to tell the news media that the documents are being given to more than one outlet at the same time.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbWikiLeaks addressed that question by making sure that when they gave documents to the Times, they said The Guardian, Der Spiegel, Le Monde, and El Pais also had them, McGovern said. These guys are very, very clever, he said. \u00ab\u00a0As you can see, I wish them all the success in the world.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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