{"id":72584,"date":"2010-12-16T17:24:09","date_gmt":"2010-12-16T17:24:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/12\/16\/wikileaks-et-les-inquietudes-us-pour-le-jsf-en-hollande\/"},"modified":"2010-12-16T17:24:09","modified_gmt":"2010-12-16T17:24:09","slug":"wikileaks-et-les-inquietudes-us-pour-le-jsf-en-hollande","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/12\/16\/wikileaks-et-les-inquietudes-us-pour-le-jsf-en-hollande\/","title":{"rendered":"Wikileaks<\/em> et les inqui\u00e9tudes US pour le JSF en Hollande"},"content":{"rendered":"

Wikileaks<\/em> et les inqui\u00e9tudes US pour le JSF en Hollande<\/h4>\n

Gr\u00e2ce au Guardian<\/em>, qui dispose d’une superbe base d’archives et d’acc\u00e8s \u00e0 tous les documents<\/a> que diffuse Wikileaks<\/em> avec une r\u00e9gularit\u00e9 remarquable, on peut disposer, ce 15 d\u00e9cembre 2010<\/a>, d’une copie directe d’un c\u00e2ble diplomatique US du 21 septembre 2009, en provenance de La Haye. Ce c\u00e2ble donne quelques d\u00e9tails sur l’inqui\u00e9tude et le malaise \u00e0 propos de l’engagement hollandais dans le programme JSF.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tObligeamment, le Guardian<\/em> surligne de jaune les passages du c\u00e2ble qu’il juge importants. Nous n’avons rien \u00e0 redire sur ce choix<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abDutch industry has high-value contracts supporting the development of the F-136 engine. The MOD has struggled to retain the necessary support for the JSF program in what has become a politically charged battle. Cancelling the F-136 program could scuttle Dutch participation in JSF and raise doubts about American defense partnerships as we ask the Dutch to stay the course with us in Afghanistan<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe JSF debate in the Netherlands remains politically charged, with the Parliament nearly scuttling Dutch participation in JSF (reftels A, B). The Dutch MOD is using the successes of the JSF in Dutch industry as an argument to keep the JSF in the Netherlands. The Dutch are aware that the U.S. defense budget has excluded the F-136 every year since 2006, but to date Congress has overturned that decision and maintained support for the F-136.<\/em> [] When we are asking the Dutch Cabinet and Parliament to make a difficult decision to stay with us as partners in Afghanistan, being perceived as an unreliable partner on JSF could prove to be a large hurdle to overcome.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tL’int\u00e9r\u00eat de la chose (du c\u00e2ble) est que tous les probl\u00e8mes qui sont soulev\u00e9s ici n’ont pas \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9solus du c\u00f4t\u00e9 US. D’une part, la situation hollandaise vis-\u00e0-vis du JSF reste plus que jamais incertaine, d’autre part la situation aux USA du programme JSF est encore bien fragile et plus confuse encore qu’elle n’\u00e9tait en septembre 2009.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tUn point remarquable \u00e0 noter est que, dans la querelle sur le moteur F136, qui se poursuit entre le Congr\u00e8s et l’administration, jamais la question des pays coop\u00e9rants n’a \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9voqu\u00e9e (celle de la Hollande, mais aussi celle du Royaume-Uni, deux tr\u00e8s fermes partisans du F136). De nombreuses forces au Congr\u00e8s voudraient poursuivre le d\u00e9veloppement du F136, mais essentiellement pour des questions d’avantages \u00e9lectoraux locaux, ou pour respecter le principe de la concurrence. L’administration s’oppose au F136 pour des raisons d’\u00e9conomie. Jamais les int\u00e9r\u00eats hollandais et britanniques ne sont \u00e9voqu\u00e9s, manifestation classique du principe d’existence du syst\u00e8me de l’am\u00e9ricanisme, hors de qui rien de s\u00e9rieux ni d’int\u00e9ressant n’existe.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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Wikileaks et les inqui\u00e9tudes US pour le JSF en Hollande Gr\u00e2ce au Guardian, qui dispose d’une superbe base d’archives et d’acc\u00e8s \u00e0 tous les documents que diffuse Wikileaks avec une r\u00e9gularit\u00e9 remarquable, on peut disposer, ce 15 d\u00e9cembre 2010, d’une copie directe d’un c\u00e2ble diplomatique US du 21 septembre 2009, en provenance de La Haye.… <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[10549,8367,10550,3203,250,9887],"class_list":["post-72584","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ouverture-libre","tag-cable","tag-f136","tag-gate","tag-hollande","tag-jsf","tag-wikileaks"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72584","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=72584"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/72584\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=72584"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=72584"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=72584"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}