{"id":72597,"date":"2010-12-20T07:25:26","date_gmt":"2010-12-20T07:25:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/12\/20\/hey-joe-panique-a-bord\/"},"modified":"2010-12-20T07:25:26","modified_gmt":"2010-12-20T07:25:26","slug":"hey-joe-panique-a-bord","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2010\/12\/20\/hey-joe-panique-a-bord\/","title":{"rendered":"Hey Joe<\/em> ! Panique \u00e0 bord"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hey Joe<\/em> ! Panique \u00e0 bord<\/h4>\n

Cablegate<\/em>, Assange et toute cette sorte de choses n’apportent gu\u00e8re de s\u00e9r\u00e9nit\u00e9 aux appoint\u00e9s du Syst\u00e8me. Glenn Greenwald, de Salon.com<\/em>, est une excellente sentinelle des impairs du Syst\u00e8me dans cette affaire, et sa chronique du 18 d\u00e9cembre 2010<\/a> est un mod\u00e8le du genre. Il a r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 prendre Joe Biden, ce cher<\/a> Hey Joe<\/em> !, dit aussi Big Mouth<\/em>, dans un extraordinaire exercice, \u00e0 24 heures d’intervalle, d’affirmations noir-blanc sur les dommages caus\u00e9s \u00e0 la diplomatie US par les fuites massives de WikiLeaks<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abBut this new example from Joe Biden is extraordinary, and reveals how government officials are willing to say absolutely anything even things they know are false to demonize WikiLeaks. First, here’s Biden with MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell on Thursday, December 16 happily insisting that the leak of the diplomatic cables has done no damage to U.S. relations:<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbMITCHELL: This is Vice President Joe Biden, who told me that the leaked cables created no substantive damage only embarrassment<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbBIDEN: And I came in [to the U.N.] almost all to embraces it wasn’t just shaking hands I know these guys, I know these women they still trust the United States there’s all kinds of<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbMITCHELL: So there’s no damage?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbBIDEN: I don’t think there’s any damage. I don’t think there’s any substantive damage, no. Look, some of the cables are embarrassing but nothing that I’m aware of that goes to the essence of the relationship that would allow another nation to say: they lied to me, we don’t trust them, they really are not dealing fairly with us.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbBut here’s the very same Joe Biden, in a preview of an interview with David Gregory taped the following day, Thursday, December 17 to air this Sunday on Meet the Press, gravely lamenting that Julian Assange has harmed American foreign relations:<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThis guy has done things that have damaged and put in jeopardy the lives and occupations of other parts of the world. He’s made it more difficult for us to conduct our business with our allies and our friends. For example, in my meetings you know I meet with most of these world leaders there is a desire to meet with me alone, rather than have staff in the room: it makes things more cumbersome so it has done damage<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbIn one day, Biden went from giddily declaring that I don’t think there’s any damage to gravely warning that it has done damage. I have no idea whether Biden was told that his Thursday no-damage admission would severely harm the Government’s efforts to prosecute Assange, but what is clear is that he was perfectly willing to march into Meet the Press the following day and say things that he knew were false in order to depict the WikiLeaks diplomatic cable disclosures as harming U.S. national security. It’s true that in the first clip, he was asked specifically about diplomatic cables, while the second interview may have encompassed all the releases, but in that second interview, he clearly claimed that the disclosures harmed relations with other countries: exactly the opposite of what he said the day before. Even his demeanor completely changed, from breezy, fun dismissiveness into serious, concerned leader talking about a True Threat.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tPanique \u00e0 bord, effectivement, car l’hypoth\u00e8se \u00e9voqu\u00e9e par Greenwald doit \u00eatre affirm\u00e9e comme une \u00e9vidence. Le 16 d\u00e9cembre, Biden passe devant la TV instruit par la pr\u00e9occupation angoiss\u00e9e d’Hillary Clinton sur les cons\u00e9quences ext\u00e9rieures pour le prestige des USA, et il en remet plusieurs couches pour nous convaiuncre que tout va bien ; il a m\u00eame \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e0 l’ONU, o\u00f9 partout on l’embrasse pour ce cadeau superbe, r\u00e9v\u00e9l\u00e9 par les c\u00e2bles, de diplomate US faisant \u00e0 l’ONU le travail des femmes de m\u00e9nage pour le compte<\/a> de la CIA en examinant tous les indices, des fragments de cheveux \u00e0 l’inspection des toilettes, et obtenir des indications sur les divers secrets des diplomates des autres pays. Le lendemain, instruit par le d\u00e9partement de la justice qu’on est en train de fabriquer un dossier pour l’extradition vers les USA d’Assange, et qu’il n’est pas temps de dire que le susdit Assange n’a caus\u00e9 aucun dommage, Hey Joe<\/em> en remet quelques couches exactement dans le sens inverse, exactement sur le m\u00eame sujet. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tPanique \u00e0 bord, parce que le Syst\u00e8me r\u00e9agit dans tous les sens, y compris les plus antagonistes, pour satisfaire tous les centres de pouvoir qui ont chacun des exigences contradictoires. Il en r\u00e9sulte une cacophonie o\u00f9, effectivement, Joe Biden excelle par sa nature m\u00eame. C’est en cela que l’affaire WikiLeaks<\/em> est r\u00e9ellement une crise nomm\u00e9e Cablegate<\/em>, parce qu’elle affole le Syst\u00e8me, et que cela se voit et s’entend.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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