{"id":73216,"date":"2012-06-23T09:03:26","date_gmt":"2012-06-23T09:03:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/06\/23\/bien-entendu-kissinger-vote-poutine\/"},"modified":"2012-06-23T09:03:26","modified_gmt":"2012-06-23T09:03:26","slug":"bien-entendu-kissinger-vote-poutine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/06\/23\/bien-entendu-kissinger-vote-poutine\/","title":{"rendered":"Bien entendu, Kissinger vote Poutine\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h3 class=\"titrebloc\">Bien entendu, Kissinger vote Poutine<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNotre ami et excellent chroniqueur M K Bhadrakumar, ancien diplomate indien, nous fait rapport d&rsquo;une rencontre tr\u00e8s r\u00e9cente, \u00e0 Saint-Petersbourg, entre le pr\u00e9sident russe Poutine et le v\u00e9n\u00e9rable Henry Kissinger, vieille canaille devant l&rsquo;Eternel. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait au cours du Davos russe, le Forum Economique International de Saint-Petersbourg qui se termine. Bien entendu, l&rsquo;accord entre les deux hommes (Poutine et Kissinger) fut parfait et M K Bhadrakumar peut titrer son article \u00ab<em>Putin, Kissinger can agree on Syria<\/em>\u00bb.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t(Qui s&rsquo;en <a href=\" http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-kissinger_le_principe_et_le_d_sordre_du_monde_05_06_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">\u00e9tonnerait<\/a>, au reste ? Nous-m\u00eames \u00e9crivions, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_raison_devenue_idiote_utile_de_l_affectivit__11_06_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">11 juin 2012<\/a>, \u00e0 propos de Brzezinski et de Kissinger : \u00ab[O]<em>n peut conclure sans crainte d&rsquo;erreur qu&rsquo;un Brzezinski, cet Am\u00e9ricain d&rsquo;origine polonaise et visc\u00e9ralement anti-russe, est aujourd&rsquo;hui bien plus proche de la politique syrienne de la Russie que de la politique du bloc BAO ; quant \u00e0 Kissinger, plus encore, lui qui n&rsquo;a jamais cach\u00e9 un penchant cynique pour le r\u00e9alisme rationnel des politiques russe et chinoise, particuli\u00e8rement muscl\u00e9es du temps du communisme<\/em>\u00bb)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tVoici donc, essentiellement sur ces relations et proximit\u00e9s d&rsquo;esprit entre Poutine et Kissinger, quelques extraits de l&rsquo;article de M K Bhadrakumar, du <a href=\"http:\/\/indrus.in\/articles\/2012\/06\/22\/putin_kissinger_can_agree_on_syria_16034.html \" class=\"gen\">22 juin 2012<\/a> dans R&#038;IR (<em>Russia &#038; India Report<\/em>) :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The point is, there is a remarkable proximity between the Russian position on Syria and Kissinger&rsquo;s own opinion on the subject of the Arab Spring.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>A long-awaited visitor to Russia met President Vladimir Putin on Thursday  former United States secretary of state Henry Kissinger. The venue was the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (dubbed as Russia&rsquo;s Davos). Energy is a key topic at the conference in St. Petersburg and the Kissinger Associates, Inc., as a consulting firm cannot miss such an important occasion to assist its clients in identifying strategic partners and investment opportunities.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Kissinger was long-awaited as he hasn&rsquo;t so far met Putin after the latter&rsquo;s return to the Kremlin as president for a third term. The two statesmen have cultivated a friendly personal relationship over the years, which also seems to play a useful role in smoothening the rough edges of the Russian-American relationship. Kissinger, of course, has a very profound background of Soviet-American relations and could bring into the contemporary US thinking a great deal of realism.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The setting is also poignant. Putin&rsquo;s foreign policy strategy has evolved over the years in a wide arc and suffice to say, at the core of it today it is bereft of any ideology or dogma and is instead an all-consuming ambition to make Russia strong. As a master tactician, he is constantly on the lookout for opportunities; and being a highly trained mind, challenges do not deter him. His preferred way of relentlessly promoting Russian interests and robustly defending them will be by essentially balancing among the big players in a polycentric world while Russia remains a strategically independent actor. He and Kissinger would have a lot in common.<\/em>\u00bb []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Enter Kissinger. Significantly, at yesterday&rsquo;s meeting in St. Petersburg between Putin and Kissinger, there was also a third participant  former Russian prime minister and foreign minister Yevgeny Primakov, who happens to be Russia&rsquo;s iconic Arabist&rsquo;. It is likely that Middle Eastern questions figured in Putin&rsquo;s conversation with Kissinger.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The point is, there is a remarkable proximity between the Russian position on Syria and Kissinger&rsquo;s own opinion on the subject of the Arab Spring. As a lengthy essay by Lavrov in the Huffington Post last weekend titled On the Right Side of History underscores, there is a far-reaching geopolitical dimension to the Syrian crisis that goes well beyond the US&rsquo; current objective of bringing about a regime change in Damascus with a view to deprive Tehran of its key regional ally and to isolate it in its region.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Where there is potential meeting point between Kissinger&rsquo;s thinking and the Russian concerns lies in the following, as he recently wrote: Regime change, almost by definition, generates an imperative for nation-building. Failing that, the international order itself begins to disintegrate. Blank spaces denoting lawlessness may come to dominate the map, as has already occurred in Yemen, Somalia, northern Mali, Libya and northwestern Pakistan, and may yet happen in Syria.  The collapse of the state may turn its territory into a base for terrorism or arms supply against neighbors who, in the absence of any central authority, will have no means to counteract them. Kissinger shares Russia&rsquo;s apprehensions on this score albeit his emphasis is on realpolitik ensuing from the diplomacy generated by the Arab Spring replacing the Westphalian principles of equilibrium in the contemporary world order  principles which have been riveted on the canon that states built on national and cultural units are deemed sovereign within their borders and international politics will be confined to their interaction across established boundaries<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCertes, et cela dit une fois de plus pour montrer que rien ne doit \u00e9chapper aux \u00e9l\u00e9ments qui forment le jugement, et ce jugement assumant par cons\u00e9quent tout le poids de la dimension historique de la chose jug\u00e9e,  certes, Kissinger est cet homme qu&rsquo;on sait, diplomate impitoyable, cynique, avec sur la conscience la mise en place et l&rsquo;ex\u00e9cution d&rsquo;op\u00e9rations ill\u00e9gales et sanglantes, et un service incontestable en faveur d&rsquo;une puissance qui est d\u00e9sormais toute enti\u00e8re le cur du Syst\u00e8me entr\u00e9 dans sa phase d&rsquo;autodestruction. Qu&rsquo;importe, l&rsquo;homme n&rsquo;est nulle part et en rien parfait, et l&rsquo;urgence des temps devenus m\u00e9tahistoriques appelle une position objectiv\u00e9e pour d\u00e9gager l&rsquo;essentiel de l&rsquo;accessoire, pour la juste manufacture du jugement. (Au reste, si l&rsquo;on voulait rester sur le terrain, aujourd&rsquo;hui irresponsable, du jugement vertueux, Poutine ne passerait pas plus que Kissinger le test supr\u00eame de l&rsquo;acquittement. Mais le jugement vertueux est un luxe impossible et surtout affreusement trompeur et faussaire dans ces temps d\u00e9cha\u00een\u00e9s, et seuls y parviennent les robots du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-g_n_alogie_et_v_rit_du_bloc_bao__23_06_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">bloc BAO<\/a>, asservis au Syst\u00e8me et totalement immerg\u00e9s dans leur <em>narrative<\/em> terroris\u00e9e et hallucin\u00e9e ; on en mesure l&rsquo;effet,  c&rsquo;est-\u00e0-dire la vertu, n&rsquo;est-ce pas&#8230;)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCela pour dire que la position de Kissinger, et la rencontre Kissinger-Poutine, outre d&rsquo;\u00eatre des \u00e9v\u00e8nements rassemblant des esprits de durs \u00e0 cuire du r\u00e9alisme politique, contiennent \u00e9galement une part de <strong>v\u00e9rit\u00e9<\/strong> qui nous importe. Cela renvoie \u00e0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notes_sur_la_source_de_tous_les_maux_ddecrisis_10_09_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">notre conception<\/a> du <em>sapiens<\/em>, chez qui le Mal n&rsquo;est que par proximit\u00e9 due \u00e0 sa faiblesse et non par substance, ce qui conduit \u00e0 conclure que m\u00eame chez les plus compromis peut ressurgir la perception et le besoin de <strong>v\u00e9rit\u00e9<\/strong>. C&rsquo;est dans ce sens que nous pla\u00e7ons cette rencontre et cet accord Poutine-Kissinger, qui ont une valeur symbolique d&rsquo;une tr\u00e8s grande force,  puisqu&rsquo;enfin, elle n&rsquo;est pas loin de faire de Kissinger, comme d&rsquo;ailleurs de son comp\u00e8re-concurrent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_raison_devenue_idiote_utile_de_l_affectivit__11_06_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">Brzezinski<\/a>, une sorte de <a href=\" http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notes_sur_les_systemes_antisysteme_ddecrisis_17_01_2011.html\" class=\"gen\">syst\u00e8me antiSyst\u00e8me<\/a>. (Poutine, lui, l&rsquo;est depuis longtemps, syst\u00e8me antiSyst\u00e8me.) Le symbole, bien s\u00fbr, se trouve dans cette poign\u00e9e de mains, dans cet entretien chaleureux, dans cet accord presque complet entre le Russe et l&rsquo;Am\u00e9ricain am\u00e9ricaniste, sur une politique russe consid\u00e9r\u00e9e par les autorit\u00e9s-Syst\u00e8me de l&rsquo;am\u00e9ricanisme comme une politique inacceptable, fourbe, ennemie, pas loin d&rsquo;\u00eatre d&rsquo;une hostilit\u00e9 active jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 potentiellement m\u00e9nager l&rsquo;hostilit\u00e9 effective de l&rsquo;affrontement sur le terrain, par rapport \u00e0 ce qui tient lieu de politique des USA. C&rsquo;est un symbole et un \u00e9v\u00e9nement consid\u00e9rable parce que les \u00e9lites am\u00e9ricanistes ont toujours suivi la politique officielle am\u00e9ricaniste, les yeux ferm\u00e9s, pour ce qu&rsquo;ils \u00e9taient n\u00e9cessairement conduits \u00e0 consid\u00e9rer comme les int\u00e9r\u00eats de l&rsquo;ensemble am\u00e9ricaniste. A cette lumi\u00e8re, Kissinger pourrait passer pour un tra\u00eetre, rien de moins, parce que la rencontre de Saint-Petersbourg ressemblerait \u00e0 une fa\u00e7on indubitable de pactiser avec l&rsquo;ennemi. D&rsquo;ailleurs, puisqu&rsquo;on l&rsquo;a \u00e9tiquet\u00e9 plus haut, dans tous les cas pour la circonstance pr\u00e9sente, de <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notes_sur_les_systemes_antisysteme_ddecrisis_17_01_2011.html\" class=\"gen\">syst\u00e8me antiSyst\u00e8me<\/a>, le rouge est mis. L&rsquo;homme a trahi,  ou faut-il dire avec allant la vieille canaille ?,  honte sur lui (sur elle) s&rsquo;exclame le Syst\u00e8me. Salut, donc, \u00e0 la vieille canaille.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 23 juin 2012 \u00e0 09H06<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bien entendu, Kissinger vote Poutine Notre ami et excellent chroniqueur M K Bhadrakumar, ancien diplomate indien, nous fait rapport d&rsquo;une rencontre tr\u00e8s r\u00e9cente, \u00e0 Saint-Petersbourg, entre le pr\u00e9sident russe Poutine et le v\u00e9n\u00e9rable Henry Kissinger, vieille canaille devant l&rsquo;Eternel. C&rsquo;\u00e9tait au cours du Davos russe, le Forum Economique International de Saint-Petersbourg qui se termine. 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