\tL’un des plus attachants et des plus importants parmi les tonnes et les tonnes d’enjeux et de challenge<\/em> divers de l’actuelle 3\u00e8me embrasement du monde arabe (voir ce 14 septembre 2012<\/a>), c’est la position de l’\u00c9gypte<\/a> et les relations de ce pays avec les USA. Il y a, \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard, une diversit\u00e9 foisonnante et bien significative de nouvelles et d’analyses, \u00e0 propos desquelles, \u00e0 notre sens, il est tr\u00e8s difficile de rationnellement trancher Il n’est d’ailleurs pas n\u00e9cessaire de trancher et il est peut-\u00eatre m\u00eame recommand\u00e9 de ne pas trancher au regard de la fluidit\u00e9 de la situation et de l’incertitude des acteurs eux-m\u00eames ; dans ce cas et une fois de plus, nous sommes plus que jamais partisans de notre joker<\/em> qui appara\u00eet comme une position intellectuelle absolument justifi\u00e9e, sinon tout simplement vraie<\/strong> : l’inconnaissance<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tUne petite promenade autour de ces nouvelles, analyses, hypoth\u00e8ses, etc., avec l’esprit d\u00e9tach\u00e9 de la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 du cr\u00e9dit ou de la d\u00e9monstration, de la position qu’on devrait prendre de souscrire ou non \u00e0 la chose, apporte un peu de fra\u00eecheur et permet de mesurer la complexit\u00e9 \u00e9tonnante des \u00e9v\u00e8nements en cours. Donc, justement, sans<\/strong> complexe ni n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 de souscrire, un peu de lecture<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t Le 12 septembre 2012<\/a>, sur Infowars.com<\/em>, Melissa Melton r\u00e9percutait la nouvelle des soup\u00e7ons, \u00e0 tout hasard, du Department of Home Security (DHS) du gouvernement de Washington , sur un nouvel axe de la Terreur : Le Caire-T\u00e9h\u00e9ran<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bbThe Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) National Terror Alert Response Center released a new terrorism threat warning entitled, Egyptian-Iranian intelligence meeting prompts fears of a new Middle East terror axis. According to yesterday’s release, U.S. intelligence monitored a secret meeting that confirmed the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo is working in consort with Iranian spies and could begin covertly supporting global terrorism. This news came on the anniversary of 9\/11, the same day U.S. Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three of his staff members were murdered in Libya as anti-American sentiments intensify across the region.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bb So which is it? Is Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood the ally that Obama’s White House opened formal contracts with earlier this year, giving over $1 billion in military aid to? Or is it the group which called for protests in Egypt and Libya ending in the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, and according to DHS, is currently working to promote global terror with Iran?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t Reuters donne, le 13 septembre 2012<\/a>, une vision de la situation \u00e0 partir de Washington. Le soup\u00e7on, vis-\u00e0-vis de l’\u00c9gypte de Morsi, est tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9sent, sinon tr\u00e8s pesant \u00e0 Washington, et la situation, au Caire et \u00e0 Washington, est tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s compliqu\u00e9e <\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00abThere are a lot of moving parts and it’s important not to make too many generalizations, said Hayat Alvi, lecturer in Middle Eastern studies at the U.S. Naval War College. But it does seem that the politics are getting more complicated as we go forward, not just in the region but also here in the United States.<\/em> [] <\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bbThe most serious attack killed U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three of his colleagues in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi a city saved only last year from the late dictator Muammar Gaddafi’s forces by Western air power during Libya’s civil war. While Libya’s government was swift to condemn the attack there and pledged to work with the United States to find those responsible, it was the equivocal initial response from Egypt’s new President Mohammad Mursi – condemning the video but not the Egyptian mob that infuriated Washington.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bbObama pointedly told the Spanish-language network Telemundo that Egypt’s Islamist-led government should not be considered a U.S. ally, but we don’t consider them an enemy, he added. Obama later spoke to Mursi and delivered a blunt message that Egypt must cooperate in protecting American diplomatic facilities. The White House will be watching closely to see that Mursi follows through. At stake may be the fate of $2 billion a year in foreign aid, much of it for the military, that the United States gives Egypt, a source close to the U.S. administration said.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bbThe Egyptian authorities can’t play any sort of a double game here, said Ari Ratner, a former Obama administration appointee, Middle East expert and now fellow at the Truman National Security Project. If the government of Egypt still expects to get significant American aid and investment, (it needs) to be very clear on the unacceptability of these events and actively work to calm the situation. Mursi, however, may feel he has little choice. Like the government of Pakistan, also often accused of a double game, he must walk an awkward path between the superpower whose support he needs, and extremists or even simply regular voters in his country with strong religious or nationalist views.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t DEBKAFiles<\/em> analyse les relations entre Washington et Le Caire, le 13 septembre 2012<\/a>. Comme d’habitude, le site isra\u00e9lien est tr\u00e8s affirmatif, quitte \u00e0 l’\u00eatre demain dans un sens exactement contraire Pour ce cas, on jugera l’analyse int\u00e9ressante parce qu’elle rend compte fondamentalement de l’incertitude \u00e0 l’int\u00e9rieur de la direction US, vis-\u00e0-vis de l’\u00c9gypte, ce qui nous semble bien restituer une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 ; plus pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment, il s’agit du d\u00e9bat \u00e0 l’int\u00e9rieur de l’administration Obama depuis les incidents de Benghazi pour savoir quelle est pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment la position de Morsi et de l’\u00c9gypte.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00abDEBKAfile’s Washington sources report that the anti-US ferment sweeping Arab capitals in the last three days finds Obama administration policy-makers in two minds about how it fits into the bigger picture of the Arab Spring and its aftermath. According to one interpretation, the tumult has a domestic motive, and was stirred up or exploited to weaken the new rulers thrown up by the Arab Spring while at the same time dimming US influence in the region.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bbThis view holds that radical Islamists, ranging from Salafites to groups associated with Al Qaeda, are fanning the flames to start a process that will lead to the overthrow of the overly moderate Muslim Brotherhood, which is the bedrock of the relationship President Obama is striving to build between the United States and the post-revolution Arab world. The advocates of this approach say America must maintain the flow of economic and political assistance to Brotherhood-led regimes, notably President Mohamed Morsi of Egypt, to help them stay on their feet against the violent buffeting of radical Islamists.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bbThe other Washington camp takes the opposite line, arguing that moderate Islamic rulers like Morsi are in no danger at all and are in fact riding the anger of the masses over the film deriding Islam to solidify their grip on power at the expense of America’s unpopularity among Muslims. To prove this point, they offer three examples:<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bb1.<\/em><\/strong> Since becoming president, Morsi has never retracted statements he made denying al Qaeda’s responsibility for the 9\/11 attacks in America. Brotherhood Secretary General Mahmoud Hussein pinned the attacks on one of the intelligence services in America, or the Jews. The Brotherhood still stands by the conspiracy theory that the US staged the atrocity to villify Islam.<\/em> 2.<\/em><\/strong> Morsi, who has been invited to the White House at the end of this month, refrained from condemning the murder of four US diplomats in Libya or offering the Egyptian people’s condolences to the US for its loss. He also waited 24 hours before issuing a tepid statement against the militants who stormed the US embassy in Cairo. he made no mention of the black al Qaeda flags hoisted above the US embassy in Cairo after the Stars and Stripes was torn down. Instead, the Egyptian president instructed his embassy in Washington to prepare a suit against the film’s director. That was before he turned out embarrassingly to be an Egyptian Copt.<\/em> 3.<\/em><\/strong> Thursday, Brotherhood websites aired divergent messages on their English and Arabic sites: In English, protesters were exhorted to exercise restraint. There were also words of self-congratulation that the US embassy gates were not broken down and no Americans harmed. In Arabic, the Egyptian masses were called out to demonstrate en masse Friday against the made-in-the-USA film<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t Maintenant, voici une partie de l’avis de Pepe Escobar, interview\u00e9 par Russia Today<\/em>, sur la situation en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral (ce 14 septembre 2012<\/a>), partie o\u00f9 il s’exprime sur les Fr\u00e8res Musulmans de Morsi et sur l’attitude de l’administration Obama. Le cas est int\u00e9ressant dans la mesure o\u00f9, nous renvoyant \u00e0 la situation US, Escobar constate que les r\u00e9publicains n’ont pas de politique moyenne-orientale et qu’Obama ignore qui sont r\u00e9ellement ses alli\u00e9s aux \u00c9tats-Unis. L\u00e0 aussi, le diagnostic de l’incertitude du c\u00f4t\u00e9 US, exprim\u00e9e dans des termes plus abrupts et qui ne manquent pas de sel, nous para\u00eet rendre compte d’une v\u00e9rit\u00e9<\/strong> objective de la situation, qui est l’indiff\u00e9rence et\/ou l’ignorance US des probl\u00e8mes ext\u00e9rieurs alors que ces probl\u00e8mes interf\u00e8rent si lourdement dans une politique ext\u00e9rieure extr\u00eamement pesante pour la situation am\u00e9ricaniste. Et la conclusion qu’en tirerait Obama, selon Escobar, est typiquement am\u00e9ricaniste dans le sens de la fameuse formule d’un g\u00e9n\u00e9ral US dite au g\u00e9n\u00e9ral belge Briquemont<\/a> (\u00abNous aux USA, on ne r\u00e9sout pas les probl\u00e8mes, on les \u00e9crase<\/em>\u00bb) : puisqu’on ne sait pas si l’Egypte est notre alli\u00e9e, on ne d\u00e9bat pas de ce probl\u00e8me, on l’\u00e9crase… On pourrait dire que c’est la version am\u00e9ricaniste et donc caricaturale, type-bulldozer, de l’inconnaissance.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00abSo the craziest thing is the Obama’s administration’s Middle East policy is now basically, let’s align ourselves with the Muslim Brotherhood.’ Okay, they may be moderate in Egypt, but they’re not moderates in Syria. And in Libya, the Muslim Brotherhood is part of the government, but at the same time they have to contend with the Salafi jihadis from outside. So what is going to be the response from the Obama administration?…<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tRussia Todayt<\/em><\/strong>: \u00abWhat can America do as a PR offensive? Or is it too late?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \tPepe Escobar<\/em><\/strong>: \u00abIt’s a bit too late. There are two months before the election. Every calculated move by the Obama administration from now on needs to secure the election. They don’t want a discussion about their Middle Eastern policy. They do not want the people in the US discussing if the Muslim Brotherhood is an ally of America or not.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t\u00bbIn fact Obama himself already said that Egypt is our ally, it’s not our enemy, but it’s not exactly one of our top allies like Israel, South Korea or Japan. So they do not want to get embroiled in a discussion. And it helps that the Republicans also don’t have a Middle East policy, so if you look at the comments that Romney made yesterday accusing the Obama administration of the whole thing no, the Obama administration was caught in the crossfire because they do not even know who they’re allied with in the Middle East anymore.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n \t Curieuse chronique, qu’on terminera par les acclamations unanimes qui ont accompagn\u00e9 la visite de Morsi \u00e0 Bruxelles, aupr\u00e8s de l’Union Europ\u00e9enne, termin\u00e9e hier. L’enthousiasme est g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, et le porte-monnaie devrait suivre avec une premi\u00e8re aide d’un milliard, ce qui, avec l’aide chinoise, pourrait faire une soudure temporaire si les USA d\u00e9cidaient de serrer la vis pour leur aide financi\u00e8re \u00e0 l’\u00c9gypte. Effectivement, cet \u00e9l\u00e9ment europ\u00e9en permet de compliquer encore les choses En aucune fa\u00e7on n’ont \u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e9voqu\u00e9s, entre les officiels europ\u00e9ens et Morsi, les sujets politiques ambigus, notamment celui qui nous occupe ici, qui est celui des relations actuelles des USA ; si l’Europe devient un contributeur important de l’\u00c9gypte, elle devient alors objectivement concurrente des USA en contrecarrant le levier de pression des USA sur l’\u00c9gypte que constitue l’aide US \u00e0 l’\u00c9gypte. Il n’y a aucune manuvre de l’Europe \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard, simplement cette bureaucratie ne s’int\u00e9resse qu’aux questions op\u00e9rationnelles et laisse en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de c\u00f4t\u00e9 cette sorte d’implications politiques, comme si la politique \u00e9trang\u00e8re ne devait surtout pas s’embarrasser des questions de fond pour en rester aux proc\u00e9dures. D’autre part, et parce qu’il s’agit d’un sujet politique op\u00e9rationnel en cours (probl\u00e8me de la crise syrienne), la bureaucratie europ\u00e9enne s’est montr\u00e9e tr\u00e8s partisane en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de l’initiative \u00e9gyptienne d’un groupe de contact sur la Syrie o\u00f9 l’on trouve, tout de m\u00eame, l’Iran avec l’Arabie, l’\u00c9gypte et la Turquie. Bref, comme disait une source europ\u00e9enne qui ne nous est pas antipathique, \u00abMorsi \u00e0 Bruxelles, dans nos couloirs, on aurait dit le printemps en personne, le printemps arabe…<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n <\/p>\n \tMis en ligne le 15 septembre 2012 \u00e0 05H33<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" L’incertitude BHO-Morsi, avec l’interf\u00e9rence UE L’un des plus attachants et des plus importants parmi les tonnes et les tonnes d’enjeux et de challenge divers de l’actuelle 3\u00e8me embrasement du monde arabe (voir ce 14 septembre 2012), c’est la position de l’\u00c9gypte et les relations de ce pays avec les USA. 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