{"id":73490,"date":"2012-11-10T12:16:58","date_gmt":"2012-11-10T12:16:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/11\/10\/la-syrie-selon-hillary-au-galop\/"},"modified":"2012-11-10T12:16:58","modified_gmt":"2012-11-10T12:16:58","slug":"la-syrie-selon-hillary-au-galop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/11\/10\/la-syrie-selon-hillary-au-galop\/","title":{"rendered":"La Syrie selon Hillary, au galop"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h3 class=\"titrebloc\">La Syrie selon Hillary, au galop<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe <a href=\"http:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2012\/10\/31\/clinton-warns-of-extremists-trying-to-hijack-syrian-revolution\" class=\"gen\">31 octobre 2012<\/a> (<em>Antiwar.com<\/em>), Hillary Clinton annonce que les USA soutiennent un effort de restructuration de l&rsquo;opposition syrienne, notamment en \u00e9liminant le Conseil National Syrien (ou Syrian National Council). L&rsquo;initiative est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e comme un acte d\u00e9cisif pour emp\u00eacher les extr\u00e9mistes de kidnapper la r\u00e9volution. En d&rsquo;autres termes, organiser quelque chose de purement am\u00e9ricaniste, contr\u00f4l\u00e9 par les am\u00e9ricanistes, puisque la formule utilis\u00e9e jusqu&rsquo;alors ne donne pas enti\u00e8re satisfaction. Le langage de Clinton est brutal, bien peu diplomatique ; la secr\u00e9taire d&rsquo;\u00c9tat s&rsquo;avise, au bout d&rsquo;un an et demi, que les membres du CNS ne correspondent pas au standard id\u00e9al du r\u00e9volutionnaire, selon les conceptions r\u00e9volutionnaires de l&rsquo;am\u00e9ricanisme<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Wednesday warned of extremists trying to hijack the Syrian revolution, and detailed US efforts to organize a cohesive Syrian opposition to replace the defunct Syrian National Council. We&rsquo;ve made it clear that the SNC can no longer be viewed as the visible leader of the opposition, Clinton said of the persistently disorganized council of exiles and expats. They can be part of a larger opposition, but that opposition must include people from inside Syria and others who have a legitimate voice that needs to be heard. We facilitated the smuggling out of a few representatives of the Syrian internal opposition in order for them to explain to the countries gathered why they must be at the table. This cannot be an opposition represented by people who have many good attributes but have, in many instances, not been inside Syria for 20, 30, or 40 years.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;\u00e9diteur de <em>The Moon of Alabama<\/em>, b, observait aussit\u00f4t que le CNS (ou SNC), qui \u00e9tait ainsi rudement \u00e9cart\u00e9, est domin\u00e9 par les Fr\u00e8res Musulmans et soutenu vigoureusement par le Qatar et la Turquie. Pendant ce temps, l&rsquo;Arabie Saoudite soutient les djihadistes des divers al Qa\u00efda et autres sur le terrain, ceux pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment qu&rsquo;Hillary Clinton accuse de vouloir kidnapper la r\u00e9volution. Cela fait que b n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment optimiste, sinon franchement sarcastique concernant le r\u00e9sultat de l&rsquo;op\u00e9ration US (le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.moonofalabama.org\/2012\/11\/syria-us-installs-new-political-proxy-opposition.html#more\" class=\"gen\">1er novembre 2012<\/a>).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Instead of one disunited SNC supported by the U.S., Turkey, Qatar and the Saudis we will now probably see two disunited entities, one supported by the U.S. and the other by Qatar and Turkey while the Saudis will continue their support for the foreign Jihadists in Syria represented in none of the political proxy entities. Does anyone expect that this will really work?<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aljazeera.com\/programmes\/insidesyria\/2012\/11\/201211485212994104.html\" class=\"gen\">4 novembre 2012<\/a>, <em>Aljazeera<\/em> organisait un d\u00e9bat sur \u00ab<em>The Changing Face of Syria<\/em>\u00bb, auquel participait l&rsquo;universitaire Flynt Leverett, excellent sp\u00e9cialiste des questions iranienne et syrienne. Le lendemain <a href=\"http:\/\/www.raceforiran.com\/flynt-leverett-on-the-illusion-of-a-syrian-oppositionand-the-real-requirements-for-conflict-resolution-in-syria\" class=\"gen\">5 novembre 2012<\/a>, sur le site <em>RaceForIran.com<\/em> des \u00e9poux Leverett (Flynt Leverett and Hillary Mann Leverett), l&rsquo;intervention de Flynt Leverett \u00e9tait reprise et explicit\u00e9e. Leverett analysait les causes du changement machin\u00e9 pat le d\u00e9partement d&rsquo;\u00c9tat dans l&rsquo;organisation de l&rsquo;opposition syrienne, et les chances que cette \u00e9volution aboutisse, \u00e9quivalentes selon Leverett \u00e0 z\u00e9ro ou \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s (Dans les causes envisag\u00e9es par Leverett appara\u00eet l&rsquo;affaire de Benghazi, qui semble d\u00e9sormais un traumatisme profond et fondamental dans la communaut\u00e9 de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 nationale US.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>I think that<\/em> <strong><em>the State Department is motivated by two concerns.  One is that, to put it bluntly, the established policy is failing<\/em><\/strong><em>.  It&rsquo;s been twenty months since unrest started in Syria in March 2011.  It&rsquo;s been fifteen months since President Obama first declared, with seemingly no sense of follow through, that President Assad must go.  Well, obviously, President Assad is still there, and this opposition&rsquo; which is supposed to effect his departure has not become more unified or more effective in the intervening months.  In fact, the opposite has happened; it has become more divided, less effective on the ground.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>And so the established policy, which was <\/em>[<em>n<\/em>]<em>ever very well thought through, is clearly failing.  As Flynt observes, the United States can live with failing policies for a long time in the Middle East.  But this brings him to<\/em> <strong><em>the secondand, in some ways, more immediateconcern driving the Obama administration&rsquo;s current flailing over Syria.  Flynt calls this, for shorthand, the Benghazi effect&rsquo;.<\/em><\/strong><em>  Amidst the controversy in Washington over the chronology and extent of the CIA and U.S. military response to the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi on September 11, 2012, there is a critical point which pundits, for the most part, have not raised, but of which the Obama administration is very mindful:  that the U.S. ambassador to Libya may have been killed by a group which was armed, supported by the United States or its allies<\/em> [<em>Administration officials<\/em>] <em>know that jihadi groups are playing an increasingly important role on the ground in the Syrian opposition and Washington wants to get in front of this problem.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>But<\/em> <strong><em>the new impetus to remake the Syrian opposition is as fatally flawed as the initiative that gave rise to the SNC in the first place<\/em><\/strong><em>. Regarding Secretary Clinton&rsquo;s directives, Flynt notes, There is no particular reason<\/em> [<em>the SNC<\/em>] <em>should accept dictation from Hillary Clinton, but frankly I don&rsquo;t think that the United States has a coherent policy for dealing with the Syrian opposition; they don&rsquo;t have a coherent Syria policy <\/em><strong><em>The whole effort to create a unified opposition is doomed to failIf you just look at the groups that are represented in the SNC, if you look at the groups that are not represented in the SNC, if you look at the groups that are likely to be represented in this new body that will come out of the Doha meetingsthese groups have fundamentally irreconcilable interests, objectives, visions for Syria.  If Assad and his government were magically to disappear today, the end result would not be some unified political structure in Syria.  It would be that many of these groups in the so-called opposition&rsquo; would be fighting one another<\/em><\/strong><em>.  You cannot create a single unified opposition.<\/em> []  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Flynt contends that the effort to revitalize the Syrian opposition is doomed to fail not only because of the opposition&rsquo;s many lines of division, but also because<\/em><strong><em> the Assad government still retains a very significant base of support within Syriaprobably about half of the society.  Thus, the only way you&rsquo;re really going to get out of this conflict is through a negotiated settlement based on power sharing between the current government and parts of the opposition.  But the opposition, egged on by its external supporters, refuses to pursue the only way that you could get out of this conflict.<\/em><\/strong> <em>When the SNC representative on the panel says that the opposition is prepared for dialogue with others about a political transition, just not with the Syrian government, and that a political transition can only start after Assad departs, Flynt underscores, You can&rsquo;t ask for a political process with preconditions, much less pre-results.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes groupements choisis et appel\u00e9s par les USA pour former la nouvelle opposition r\u00eav\u00e9e par Washington \u00e9taient convi\u00e9s \u00e0 Doha, au Qatar, ce week-end, pour former enfin l&rsquo;organisation r\u00eav\u00e9e, unitaire et directement contr\u00f4l\u00e9e par Washington, qui l&#8217;emporterait en envoyant Assad aux poubelles de l&rsquo;histoire. Hier <a href=\"\/%E2%80%AAhttp:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2012\/11\/08\/us-initiative-to-set-up-syrian-opposition-council-collapses\/%E2%80%AC\" class=\"gen\">9 novembre 2012<\/a>, les nouvelles n&rsquo;\u00e9taient pas des plus exaltantes. Trois groupes de l&rsquo;opposition convoqu\u00e9s par Washington pour former le nouveau front uni se d\u00e9sistaient. Cela semblait esquisser le sch\u00e9ma d\u00e9taill\u00e9 ci-dessus par Flynt Everett d&rsquo;un \u00e9chec programm\u00e9, classique et pr\u00e9visible, de l&rsquo;initiative US.  (Sur <em>Antiwar.com<\/em>.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The Obama administration&rsquo;s initiative to set up a new Syrian opposition council, possibly to serve as an interim government following the fall of the Assad regime, appeared to have failed on Thursday before the convention in Qatar even began. One day before the official start of the conference, at which Syrian opposition activists selected by the State Department were to meet, three of the dissident bodies included in the US-backed initiative refused to attend, diplomats and opposition figures told the Daily Telegraph, There are too many people against this initiative for it to work now, said a western diplomat who chose to remain anonymous.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Many opposition activists not included in the Doha meeting expect the effort to be another failed attempt to unify the opposition. Right now, the opposition groups are very vague and there&rsquo;s no agreement on who&rsquo;s representing who and what and where, one opposition activist told The Cable last week. Right now there is a lot of risk that this will be another failed approach that will not achieve anything.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tEnfin, et, disons, pour pimenter l&rsquo;affaire, on pouvait encore lire des d\u00e9clarations du chef des combattants rebelles, de l&rsquo;Arm\u00e9e Syrienne Libre, correspondants sur le terrain des groupes ex-CNS, avertissant que si ses combattants n&rsquo;\u00e9taient pas puissamment aid\u00e9s et \u00e9quip\u00e9s (par les pays du bloc BAO), ils deviendraient des terroristes incontr\u00f4lables.  Cet avertissement \u00e9videmment justifi\u00e9 et compl\u00e8tement fond\u00e9 place les occidentaux du bloc BAO, et les USA particuli\u00e8rement, devant l&rsquo;alternative impossible, cr\u00e9\u00e9e de toutes pi\u00e8ces par la politique de ce m\u00eame bloc BAO, sa croyance en des analyses et des renseignements marqu\u00e9s par la suffisances am\u00e9ricanistes-occidentalistes et ainsi de suite. L&rsquo;alternative est entre aider sans conditions ni restrictions les groupes tels qu&rsquo;ils existent avec le risque \u00e9vident que ces groupes comprennent une proportion d\u00e9j\u00e0 importante de terroristes type-al Qa\u00efda qui seraient ainsi \u00e9quip\u00e9s pour des entreprises incertaines, et ne pas les aider avec le risque que ces groupes laiss\u00e9s sans soutien d\u00e9cident de devenir compl\u00e8tement irr\u00e9guliers et terroristes, c&rsquo;est-\u00e0-dire, dans ce cas, groupes incontr\u00f4l\u00e9s, pillards, vivant sur le pays et se pr\u00eatant \u00e0 toutes les manuvres et manigances, faisant effectivement uvre de terrorisme mais sans ligne pr\u00e9cise, sans objectif identifi\u00e9, pour la simple pratique du d\u00e9sordre et de l&rsquo;affirmation locale de pouvoirs divers. (C&rsquo;est ce que l&rsquo;envoy\u00e9 sp\u00e9cial de l&rsquo;ONU Brahimi d\u00e9signe comme le risque de somalisation de la Syrie.) (Sur <em>Antiwar.com<\/em>, le <a href=\"\/%E2%80%AAhttp:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2012\/11\/09\/syrian-rebel-leader-absent-outside-support-we-will-all-turn-into-terrorists\/\" class=\"gen\">9 novembre 2012<\/a>.)&#8236;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Gen. Mustafa al-Sheikh, the leader of the Free Syrian Army, warned that if outside powers don&rsquo;t quickly back the rebel fighters trying to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad, the rebels might all turn into terrorists instead. If there&rsquo;s no quick decision to support us, we will all turn into terrorists, he said in an interview with the Daily Telegraph. If you apply the pressure that&rsquo;s been applied to Syria, it will explode in all directions. Terrorism will grow quickly.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCe nouveau paysage syrien est le r\u00e9sultat, par cons\u00e9quent, de l&rsquo;op\u00e9ration US initi\u00e9e par Hillary Clinton \u00e0 la fin octobre, selon la bonne vieille formule brechtienne prolong\u00e9e par la sophistication am\u00e9ricaniste : puisque l&rsquo;opposition r\u00e9volutionnaire ne convient pas, dissolvons cette opposition et rempla\u00e7ons-l\u00e0 par une autre, qui corresponde mieux aux crit\u00e8res US. Le m\u00e9rite de ce changement r\u00e9volutionnaireest au moins d&rsquo;introduire et de nous faire conna\u00eetre une nouvelle expression qui pourrait \u00e9ventuellement devenir acronymique : de <em>Regime Change<\/em>, qui est la strat\u00e9gie classique de la <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-bho_c_est_gw-turbo_16_02_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">politique-Syst\u00e8me<\/a> de l&rsquo;id\u00e9ologie et de l&rsquo;instinct courante depuis 2001, on passe \u00e0 <em>Regime Led-Change<\/em>, impliquant que les USA veulent organiser eux-m\u00eames, directement et sans la moindre attention pour les n\u00e9cessit\u00e9s locales, l&rsquo;opposition dite r\u00e9volutionnaire, pour que le nouveau r\u00e9gime que cette opposition mettra en place soit enti\u00e8rement sous le contr\u00f4le de ces m\u00eames USA, disons avant m\u00eame cette mise en place et sans qu&rsquo;il faille pr\u00eater la moindre attention aux conditions de la mise en place. Tout serait donc pr\u00eat, jusqu&rsquo;au dernier bouton de gu\u00eatre, et il ne manque donc plus que la chute d&rsquo;Assad qui, comme l&rsquo;attaque contre l&rsquo;Iran depuis 2005, est \u00e9videmment imminente.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tTout le monde sait, dit et r\u00e9p\u00e8te que l&rsquo;administration Obama ne tient pas \u00e0 s&rsquo;engager directement dans le bruyant gu\u00eapier syrien, cela depuis des mois malgr\u00e9 tant de d\u00e9clarations tonitruantes. Pourtant, \u00e0 force d&rsquo;imposer, de r\u00e9genter et d&rsquo;administrer des changements forc\u00e9s pour contr\u00f4ler malgr\u00e9 tout la crise syrienne sans s&rsquo;y engager une seconde, l&rsquo;administration Obama va finir par s&rsquo;y trouver engag\u00e9e compl\u00e8tement sans la contr\u00f4ler pour autant, et m\u00eame en la contr\u00f4lant de moins en moins puisque cette perte de contr\u00f4le en tentant de ne pas s&rsquo;y engager aura \u00e9t\u00e9 finalement la cause directe de son engagement<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis ebn ligne le 10 novembre 2012 \u00e0 12H17<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La Syrie selon Hillary, au galop Le 31 octobre 2012 (Antiwar.com), Hillary Clinton annonce que les USA soutiennent un effort de restructuration de l&rsquo;opposition syrienne, notamment en \u00e9liminant le Conseil National Syrien (ou Syrian National Council). L&rsquo;initiative est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e comme un acte d\u00e9cisif pour emp\u00eacher les extr\u00e9mistes de kidnapper la r\u00e9volution. En d&rsquo;autres termes, organiser&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2998,934,11868,3278,15201,6463,5391,2726,11930,3867],"class_list":["post-73490","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-change","tag-clinton","tag-cns","tag-hillary","tag-led-change","tag-leverett","tag-opposition","tag-regime","tag-snc","tag-syrie"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73490","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=73490"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/73490\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=73490"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=73490"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=73490"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}