{"id":74025,"date":"2011-08-31T12:54:51","date_gmt":"2011-08-31T12:54:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/08\/31\/la-libye-et-le-choix-funambulesque-des-amis-de-fortune\/"},"modified":"2011-08-31T12:54:51","modified_gmt":"2011-08-31T12:54:51","slug":"la-libye-et-le-choix-funambulesque-des-amis-de-fortune","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/08\/31\/la-libye-et-le-choix-funambulesque-des-amis-de-fortune\/","title":{"rendered":"La Libye et le choix funambulesque des amis de fortune"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Il est vraiment <strong>tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s<\/strong> difficile de s&rsquo;engager avec certitude et assurance dans le conflit libyen, dans tous les cas par rapport aux autres qui s&rsquo;engagent \u00e9galement. Les rencontres qu&rsquo;on y fait, en adoptant tel ou tel parti, sont parfois bien \u00e9tonnantes. Dans le cas que nous allons examiner ici, voyons d&rsquo;abord une interview de Stephen Brown, r\u00e9dacteur en chef du site <em>FrontPage.com<\/em>, par <em>Russian Today<\/em> (RT), le <a href=\"http:\/\/rt.com\/news\/libya-rebels-gaddafi-peace-491\/\" class=\"gen\">31 ao\u00fbt 2011<\/a>. C&rsquo;est une analyse du r\u00f4le du colonel Kadhafi, qui est aussi un hymne \u00e0 la gloire de l&rsquo;habilet\u00e9 de l&rsquo;ancien dirigeant libyen.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tParlant de l&rsquo;action et des esp\u00e9rances des rebelles vis-\u00e0-vis de Kadhafi, Brown explique :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Until then, they are going to have a major guerilla war on their hands. Secondly, I think even if they do find Gaddafi, this is only the first stage of a multi-stage war in Libya. Now the tribes are going to fight each other over the oil revenues, or the Islamists are going to start fighting the Transitional National Council. They have already assassinated the head of the military. That is just the beginning of the problems.<\/em>  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Sending his family away and keeping in hiding is a calculated move on Muammar Gaddafi&rsquo;s part, Brown suggested. This is a smart move on the part of Gaddafi, who wants to maintain power, he said. I think he is going to go underground and launch a guerilla war. In a few months, when the rebel National Council and the tribes start fighting one another, he can make a political comeback.  And now he has got part of his family outside of the country, where they can also help make that political comeback on the international scene. I think it is a very calculated move on his part.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tVoil\u00e0 donc l&rsquo;avis de Stephen Brown, de <em>FrontPage.com<\/em>, tr\u00e8s pro-Kadhafi, interview\u00e9 par RT, la cha\u00eene ind\u00e9pendante \u00e9galement pas insensible aux exploits du colonel, devenue le porte-drapeau des ind\u00e9pendants anti-Syst\u00e8me, ceux-l\u00e0 compl\u00e8tement d\u00e9go\u00fbt\u00e9s par l&rsquo;\u00e9volution d&rsquo;Aljazeera. Au fait,  qu&rsquo;est-ce que c&rsquo;est que le site <em>FrontPagre.com<\/em> ? <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl a \u00e9t\u00e9 cr\u00e9\u00e9 et est dirig\u00e9 par David Horowitz, un ancien trotskiste devenu sans doute l&rsquo;un des plus sionistes et l&rsquo;un des plus extr\u00e9mistes parmi les <em>neocons<\/em> US pro-isra\u00e9liens. Dans l&rsquo;affaire libyenne, <em>FrontPage.com<\/em> est r\u00e9solument, sans r\u00e9serve, du cot\u00e9 de Kadhafi. Il s&rsquo;appuie notamment sur la documentation de <em>DEBKAfiles<\/em>, le site isra\u00e9lien dont il est affirm\u00e9 hautement que les liens avec le <em>Mossad<\/em> sont \u00e9vidents. Par cons\u00e9quent, on en d\u00e9duit que le <em>Mossad<\/em> est plut\u00f4t favorable \u00e0 Kadhafi.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAutre exemple de cet engagement de <em>FrontPage.com<\/em> en faveur de Kadhafi, avec l&rsquo;aide de <MI>DEBKAfiles<D, toujours aussi aimable pour Kadhafi, le <a href=\"http:\/\/frontpagemag.com\/2011\/08\/30\/liberating-libya-for-jihadists\/\" class=\"gen\">30 ao\u00fbt 2011<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The fall of Muammar Gaddafi is making some in the West giddy with the usual Arab Spring wishful visions of democracy and freedom flourishing throughout the Muslim Middle East, even as the last binge of democratic intoxication, the fall of Egyptian strongman Hosni Mubarak, has left the hangover of a newly empowered Muslim Brotherhood, increasing assaults on Christian Copts, growing anti-Americanism, and terrorist attacks on Israel originating in Egypt and including Egyptian citizens among the attackers. And now, according to DEBKAfile, we may see Libya heading in the same anti-Western, Islamist direction.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Members of the Al Qaeda-linked Libyan Islamic Fighting Group  LIFG, are in control of the former strongholds of Muammar Qaddafi captured by Libyan rebels last Sunday, DEBKAfile reports. They are fighting under the command of Abd Al-Hakim Belhadj, an al Qaeda veteran from Afghanistan whom the CIA captured in Malaysia in 2003 and extradited six years later to Libya where Qaddafi held him in prison. Belhadj is on record as rejecting any political form of coexistence with the Crusaders excepting jihad. Despite the media&rsquo;s depiction of the Libyan National Transitional Council (NTC) as a coherent, controlling leadership structure, it is unclear who controls Tripoli at this point, the NTC, or the LIFG, and it is doubtful that the NTC will in the future be able (assuming they are willing) to control or disarm the Islamist outfits.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Worse yet, in addition to being armed with weapons looted from Gaddafi&rsquo;s weapons depots, the fighters in Tripoli succeeded in capturing the compound because they were given advanced weapons by British and French special operations forces, in addition to U.S.-supplied intelligence. As DEBKA concludes, Tripoli&rsquo;s institutions of government have wound up in the hands of fighting Islamist brigades belonging to al Qaeda, who are now armed to the teeth with the hardware seized from Qaddafi&rsquo;s arsenals. No Western or Libyan military force can conceive of dislodging the Islamists from the Libyan capital in the foreseeable future. And let&rsquo;s not forget the remnants of Libya&rsquo;s WMD program\u00a0including 10 tons of mustard gas and dumps of raw nuclear fuel \u00a0that we are depending on the NTC to secure, on the assumption that the NTC actually is in control of the country. This is the same TNC, by the way, that has just announced it will not hand over Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>If these reports about the LIFG are accurate, then the U.S. endorsement and financing of the NATO operation to oust a defanged Gaddafi, who presented no immediate threat to us, without any idea of who would take his place, is as shortsighted as the abandonment of another unsavory but geopolitically stabilizing figure, Egypt&rsquo;s Mubarak. This lack of prudence, moreover, is still being camouflaged by the usual question-begging rhetoric about the march of freedom and democracy&rsquo;s irresistible spread, with all the liberalizing boons assumed to follow the removal of an autocratic thug and the establishment of democratic machinery absent the liberal values that such machinery is supposed to serve. We forget that those values in the West are the fruit of 25 centuries of difficult, doubtful development from the legacies of Athens, Rome, and Jerusalem. We simply keep repeating the mantra that the love of freedom exists in everyone, a half-truth that ignores the fact that many other desires inhabit the human breast, such as the desire to serve and obey God, and that these can conflict with the love of freedom, and often take precedence over it. And how do we know that the freedom demanded in the Middle East is the freedom we believe in? What if it means the freedom to be a good Muslim living under Shari&rsquo;a law, as we are told by both the NTC&rsquo;s draft constitution, and the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam, whose Article 24 reads, All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Shari&rsquo;ah?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAinsi, <em>FrontPage.com<\/em> se retrouve en symbiose avec <em>Antiwar.com<\/em> sur l&rsquo;affaire libyenne, et avec les \u00e9manations du <em>Mossad<\/em>, alors que Dieu sait combien Justin Raimondo (<MO>Antiwar.com<D>) d\u00e9nonce tout cela (<MI>FrontPage.com, Horowitz et <em>Mossad<\/em>) avec fureur et \u00e0 tour de plume. L&rsquo;inverse est aussi vrai, la haine de Horowitz et de <em>FrontPage.com<\/em> pour <em>Antiwar.com<\/em> \u00e9tant bien connue et largement distribu\u00e9eC&rsquo;est la partie US de la situation, mais elle vaut bien entendu pour nous. Nombre de ceux qui se sont ralli\u00e9s plut\u00f4t du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de Kadhafi parce qu&rsquo;il leur semblait absolument impensable de se trouver aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s des rebelles et de l&rsquo;OTAN, se retrouvent aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s des plus radicaux des <em>neocons<\/em> et d&rsquo;une partie importante de l&rsquo;appareil de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 nationale d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tBien s\u00fbr, on comprend bien la logique de tout cela Horowitz et ses amis du <em>Mossad<\/em> d\u00e9testent chez les rebelles libyens la partie islamique qui s&rsquo;y est d\u00e9velopp\u00e9e et jugent que Kadhafi a jou\u00e9 loyalement un jeu anti-islamique ces derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es. Les autres, les ind\u00e9pendants qui luttent depuis des ann\u00e9es contre l&rsquo;imp\u00e9rialisme du bloc BAO, sont plut\u00f4t du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de Kadhafi parce que Kadhafi est l&rsquo;objet des attaques cruelles et imp\u00e9rialistes de l&rsquo;OTAN, sous la direction \u00e9clair\u00e9e du grand esprit qu&rsquo;est Sarkozy Ainsi, ceux qui, depuis des ann\u00e9es, d\u00e9noncent les adversaires d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, avec le soup\u00e7on habituel d&rsquo;antis\u00e9mitisme, et repr\u00e9sentent l&rsquo;aile maximaliste des <em>neocons<\/em>, se retrouvent aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s de ceux qui d\u00e9noncent, depuis des ann\u00e9es, la politique d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl et l&rsquo;inspiration subversive de leurs \u00e2mes donn\u00e9es, les <em>neocons<\/em> maximalistes. Quant \u00e0 ces m\u00eames <em>neocons<\/em> maximalistes qui ont salu\u00e9 dans Sarkozy l&rsquo;arriv\u00e9e d&rsquo;un ami de l&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique bushiste et d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, ils vouent discr\u00e8tement aux g\u00e9monies le m\u00eame Sarkozy, avec BHL en bandouill\u00e8re<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tTout cela est un peu fou,  non, compl\u00e8tement fou, plut\u00f4t,  et ce n&rsquo;est qu&rsquo;un d\u00e9but, et qu&rsquo;un exemple parmi d&rsquo;autres du d\u00e9sordre absolument consid\u00e9rable des engagements politiques, et c&rsquo;est aussi compl\u00e8tement logique, selon la logique d&rsquo;une \u00e9poque folle et marqu\u00e9e par un d\u00e9sordre tout aussi consid\u00e9rable. Notre conclusion est donc du domaine de l&rsquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-de_l_inconnaissance_du_systeme_13_07_2011.html\" class=\"gen\">inconnaissance<\/a> appliqu\u00e9e aux prises de position par rapport aux \u00e9v\u00e8nements,  inconnaissance dans ce cas signifiant le refus d&rsquo;un engagement circonstanci\u00e9 selon les termes impos\u00e9s par ceux avec lesquels on s&rsquo;engagerait, et qui, \u00e0 un moment ou l&rsquo;autre, risqueraient de faire avec le Syst\u00e8me auquel, souvent, ils sont fondamentalement li\u00e9s ; il s&rsquo;agit, de fa\u00e7on tr\u00e8s diff\u00e9rente, de suivre une politique de prises de position distanci\u00e9e, s\u00e9lective et extr\u00eamement libre d&rsquo;elle-m\u00eame, allant de l&rsquo;un \u00e0 l&rsquo;autre, sans aucun engagement affirm\u00e9,  et cela selon une seule r\u00e9f\u00e9rence, imp\u00e9rative : soutenir, le temps qu&rsquo;il faut et rien de plus, celui dont l&rsquo;action peut \u00eatre objectivement appr\u00e9ci\u00e9e comme hostile au Syst\u00e8me le temps qu&rsquo;elle s&rsquo;accomplisse. Qu&rsquo;un super-<em>neocon<\/em> soit anti-Syst\u00e8me pour un temps (ce qui est le cas puisque les r\u00e9f\u00e9rences cit\u00e9es font de ces <em>neocons<\/em>-l\u00e0 des adversaires de l&rsquo;OTAN et du bloc BAO), et l&rsquo;on admettra de se trouver aux c\u00f4t\u00e9s de ces <em>neocons<\/em>, avant de les d\u00e9noncer lorsqu&rsquo;ils retrouveront leur dialectique habituelle, pro-guerre, d\u00e9stabilisatrices, etc. Il n&rsquo;y a qu&rsquo;une seule voie, un seul imp\u00e9ratif,  l&rsquo;ardeur et la bataille anti-Syst\u00e8me, encore anti-Syst\u00e8me, toujours anti-Syst\u00e8me. L&rsquo;habilet\u00e9 est de distinguer, dans ce formidable bouillonnement qui l&rsquo;est, anti-Syst\u00e8me, et qui ne l&rsquo;est pas, pour le moment pr\u00e9sent o\u00f9 vous posez votre jugement. Il n&rsquo;y a aucune morale \u00e0 avoir au niveau de cette soupe politique des id\u00e9ologies, des emportements et des corruption, mais il y a une r\u00e8gle de fer, qui peut vous servir de morale ou pas, mais qui repr\u00e9sente une orientation imp\u00e9rative, \u00e0 suivre sans d\u00e9vier : tout contre le Syst\u00e8me et sus au Syst\u00e8me.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 31 ao\u00fbt 2011 \u00e0  12H56<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Il est vraiment tr\u00e8s, tr\u00e8s difficile de s&rsquo;engager avec certitude et assurance dans le conflit libyen, dans tous les cas par rapport aux autres qui s&rsquo;engagent \u00e9galement. Les rencontres qu&rsquo;on y fait, en adoptant tel ou tel parti, sont parfois bien \u00e9tonnantes. Dans le cas que nous allons examiner ici, voyons d&rsquo;abord une interview de&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2996,6892,3675,11456,11457,10891,5675,1104,5769],"class_list":["post-74025","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-alliance","tag-anti-systeme","tag-antiwar","tag-horowitz","tag-hustin","tag-kadhafi","tag-mossad","tag-neocons","tag-pro-guerre"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74025","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=74025"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74025\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=74025"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=74025"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=74025"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}