{"id":74031,"date":"2011-09-03T12:33:16","date_gmt":"2011-09-03T12:33:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/09\/03\/le-je-te-hais-moi-non-plus-israel-turquie\/"},"modified":"2011-09-03T12:33:16","modified_gmt":"2011-09-03T12:33:16","slug":"le-je-te-hais-moi-non-plus-israel-turquie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/09\/03\/le-je-te-hais-moi-non-plus-israel-turquie\/","title":{"rendered":"Le \u201cJe te hais, moi non plus\u201d Isra\u00ebl-Turquie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><p>Tension \u00e9vidente et grandissante dans les rapports entre Isra\u00ebl et la Turquie, apr\u00e8s la publication du rapport de l&rsquo;ONU sur la crise de la flottille de la libert\u00e9. Les Turcs ont r\u00e9agi avec vigueur \u00e0 ce rapport d&rsquo;un ancien Premier ministre n\u00e9o-z\u00e9landais, sir Geoffrey Palmer, qui s&rsquo;abstient de condamner Isra\u00ebl de quelque fa\u00e7on substantielle que ce soit, en expulsant l&rsquo;ambassadeur isra\u00e9lien d&rsquo;Ankara. Les Isra\u00e9liens ont confirm\u00e9 qu&rsquo;ils <a href=\"http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/news\/diplomacy-defense\/israel-we-hope-to-mend-turkey-ties-but-will-not-apologize-for-gaza-flotilla-1.382240\" class=\"gen\">refusaient<\/a> de quelque fa\u00e7on que ce soit \u00e9galement, de pr\u00e9senter des excuses \u00e0 la Turquie.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPour aller un peu plus loin dans l&rsquo;interpr\u00e9tation de cette passe d&rsquo;armes, nous nous tournons \u00e0 nouveau vers le site <em>Debka.com<\/em>, proche du <em>Mossad<\/em>. (Nous nous y sommes r\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9s pour un autre <em>Bloc-Notes<\/em> de ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-libye-al_qaida_for_real_or_just_for_show__03_09_2011.html\" class=\"gen\">3 septembre 2011<\/a>.) L&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat de la chose est moins dans les informations que dans le ton, l&rsquo;\u00e9volution comparative des nouvelles du site, etc., tout cela nous permettant d&rsquo;avoir une mesure approximative de l&rsquo;humeur des Isra\u00e9liens, \u00e9ventuellement de la politique turque, etc., au-del\u00e0 des communiqu\u00e9s officiels et des analyses g\u00e9ostrat\u00e9giques pontifiantes.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t D&rsquo;abord, on notera un texte du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debka.com\/article\/21061\/\" class=\"gen\">25 juin 2011<\/a> (acc\u00e8s payant), du m\u00eame site, qui annon\u00e7ait un rapprochement de la Turquie avec Isra\u00ebl \u00e0 cause des \u00e9v\u00e9nements en Syrie (\u00ab<em>Turkey renews ties with Israel ahead of showdown with Syria<\/em>\u00bb). Peu importent ici les informations donn\u00e9es, l&rsquo;essentiel pour notre propos \u00e9tant qu&rsquo;il \u00e9tait pris acte, ou bien annonc\u00e9 d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on peut-\u00eatre un peu sollicit\u00e9e, que la Turquie cherchait \u00e0 se rapprocher d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl. Il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;un sch\u00e9ma r\u00eav\u00e9 pour Isra\u00ebl : que la Turquie, puissant voisin et pays d&rsquo;une grande importance, cherche \u00e0 resserrer des liens strat\u00e9giques avec Isra\u00ebl en grand danger depuis deux ans, essentiellement du fait de la Turquie jugeant l&rsquo;attitude d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl insupportable et inacceptable, et que cette initiative (telles qu&rsquo;elle est pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e) vienne de la Turquie elle-m\u00eame, et d\u00e9douanant d&rsquo;autant Isra\u00ebl d&rsquo;une partie importante de sa mauvaise r\u00e9putation.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Le texte de <em>Debka.com<\/em>, rapport sp\u00e9cial <em>DEBKAFiles<\/em>, mis en ligne le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.debka.com\/article\/21267\/\" class=\"gen\">2 septembre 2011<\/a>, rend compte de l&rsquo;attitude turque apr\u00e8s le rapport de l&rsquo;ONU. On appr\u00e9ciera essentiellement le ton de l&rsquo;article : ironique, railleur, furieux, m\u00e9prisant \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9gard de la Turquie, apr\u00e8s avoir rapport\u00e9 la r\u00e9action extr\u00eamement vigoureuse de cette m\u00eame Turquie au rapport de l&rsquo;ONU. Voici quelques extraits du texte de <em>Debaka.com<\/em>, o\u00f9 l&rsquo;on lit des expressions aussi vigoureuses que la campagne de haine du gouvernement Erdogan contre Isra\u00ebl. (On laisse de c\u00f4t\u00e9 l&rsquo;argumentation autour du rapport et sur la crise de la flottille de la libert\u00e9 elle-m\u00eame.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The Erdogan government&rsquo;s hate campaign for bringing Israel to its knees has entailed support for the terrorist organizations dedicated to its destruction, including the Palestinian Hamas, Hizballah &#8211; up to a point, and Turkey&rsquo;s very own IHH whose activists set about the Israeli soldiers as they boarded the Mavi Marmora.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The Turkish foreign minister has already threatened to enforce anti-Israel sanctions and ask international tribunals to prosecute Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, Defense Minister Ehud Barak, ex-Chief of Staff Gabby Ashkenazi, Navy Commander Zvi Merom and a string of naval officers for causing the nine Marmora deaths and requiring them to compensate the victims&rsquo; families.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Turkey&rsquo;s combative intransigence over the flotilla episode and rank hostility toward Israel reflect the Erdogan government&rsquo;s frustration over the failure of its strategy to carve a role for Turkey as the leading regional power broker, especially in the Arab Revolt.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Syrian President Bashar Assad simply laughed off Erdogan&rsquo;s last warning to him to stop slaughtering civilian demonstrators and return his troops to barracks. Davutoglu went to Damascus especially on Aug. 9 to deliver the warning by hand. But since then, the Syrian army has killed an estimated 437 people, including nearly 100 Palestinians in the town of Latakia  apart from the scores who are dying from maltreatment in custody. Thousands more are injured daily by military gunfire. Yet Assad not only keeps on sending his troops into Syrian cities but has improved on their tactics: In the last two weeks tanks are smashing their way into one city district after another.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Assad is not alone in showing contempt for Ankara&rsquo;s attempt to make its mark on the Arab Revolt. In Libya, for instance, Turkey undertook to build security and administrative institutions for the dominant Transitional National Council in the rebel stronghold of Benghazi only to be cold-shouldered after refusing to take part as a NATO member in the military offensive against Muammar Qaddafi and his army &#8211; unlike Qatar and Jordan, which put their backs and special forces into toppling the Libyan regime.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The turmoil in Arab lands has made the alliance Erdogan strove to shape between Ankara, Tehran and Damascus, irrelevant, as well as dashing his vision of Turkey as the great bridge between the West and the Muslim world.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Erdogan is now working on a new alliance with Saudi Arabia at the head of the Gulf emirates, but their differences of approach are formidable. Riyadh is focused on establishing a Sunni Muslim lineup to challenge the Iranian-led Shiite world. Erdogan and Davutoglu are not sure this concept will advance their own vision of Turkey&rsquo;s role.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>All the Turkish leaders&rsquo; efforts to make friends and allies have had an important common objective: To isolate Israel and make its military inconsequential as a Middle East force.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Cette r\u00e9action de la Turquie au rapport de l&rsquo;ONU, mais surtout au refus d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl de pr\u00e9senter des excuses, a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9taill\u00e9e le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hurriyetdailynews.com\/n.php?n=turkey-slams-uns-mavi-marmara-report-announces-measures-against-israel-2011-09-02\" class=\"gen\">2 septembre 2011<\/a> par le ministre turc des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res. Elle n&rsquo;est en aucun cas inattendue, comme on le lit, par exemple, sous la plume de la commentatrice turque Bar\u00e7in Yinan\u00e7, le  <a href=\"http:\/\/www.hurriyetdailynews.com\/n.php?n=plan-b-from-israel-from-losing-a-friend-to-gaining-an-opponent-2011-07-25\" class=\"gen\">25 juillet 2011<\/a>. Yinan\u00e7 commentait l&rsquo;annonce par le Premier ministre Erdogan d&rsquo;un plan B, au cas o\u00f9 Isra\u00ebl ne pr\u00e9senterait pas ses excuses, avec une conclusion abrupte, impliquant l&rsquo;orientation que pourraient prendre les relations entre la Turquie et Isra\u00ebl dans ce cas <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>First of all, working on a plan B, in the absence of an apology, means Turkey is not willing to have the present situation with Israel to continue like that. Time is not going to heal the wounds between the two countries. Time will not make Turkey step down from its position, and Turkey is not going to play for time, in the expectation that in time Israel will come to the point of apology<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The fact that Mavi Marmara, the ship on which the deadly attack took place, did not leave Turkey this year should have been taken by Israel as Turkish government&rsquo;s intention to normalize ties with Israel. Despite this gesture, avoiding an apology is seen as testing the patience of Turkey. For Israel the stakes are no longer about losing a valuable friend, but it is about gaining a new opponent.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t De l\u00e0, il importe de revenir \u00e0 la m\u00eame analyse de <em>DEBKAFiles<\/em> r\u00e9f\u00e9renc\u00e9e plus haut. Il s&rsquo;agit ici d&rsquo;un commentaire s\u00e9v\u00e8re, selon des sources militaire autant que des sources \u00e0 Washington, sur une manuvre que serait en train d&rsquo;accomplir la Turquie. En effet, en m\u00eame temps que rebondit s\u00e9v\u00e8rement la crise entre Isra\u00ebl et la Turquie, la Turquie accepte la participation au r\u00e9seau anti-missile de l&rsquo;OTAN, qui est l&rsquo;\u00e9tiquette nouvelle mise sur le r\u00e9seau BMDE (Ballistic Missile Defense Europe), toujours en \u00e9tat de crise larv\u00e9e avec la Russie. <em>DEBKAFiles<\/em> transforme cette affaire en un complot turc contre Isra\u00ebl, et s&rsquo;adresse d\u00e8s lors \u00e0 l&rsquo;administration Obama&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>DEBKAfile&rsquo;s military and Washington sources report that Ankara accompanied its hostile acts against Israel with swift permission for the deployment of NATO electronic warning stations on Turkish soil.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Turkey&rsquo;s eyes are fixed on the shared ballistic missile defense facilities the US established with Israel in recent years. Erdogan plans next to warn Washington that it will not allow the data incoming to the Turkey-based stations to be relayed to Israel thereby driving a hole in the missile shield America is building.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Turkey&rsquo;s aim is to drive a wedge between Washington and Jerusalem, derail their close military and intelligence collaboration and cast Israel out of the collective missile shield. US withdrawal from this partnership under Turkish pressure would leave Israel wide open to Iran&rsquo;s ballistic missiles. Whether or not Ankara succeeds in this maneuver depends on how the Obama administration treats what looks in Jerusalem very much like Turkish blackmail.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAu d\u00e9part, il y avait tous les \u00e9l\u00e9ments pour l&rsquo;actuel conflit. Les Turcs ont fait de l&rsquo;affaire de la <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-gandhi_revu_par_la_g4g_06_07_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">flottille de la libert\u00e9<\/a> du d\u00e9but de l&rsquo;\u00e9t\u00e9 2010 une affaire de principe. Ce principe s&rsquo;articule essentiellement autour des excuses d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl tandis qu&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl ne voulait pas aller plus loin que des regrets,  ce que recommande le rapport Palmer. Les Turcs, de toutes les fa\u00e7ons tr\u00e8s m\u00e9fiants \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9gard de ce rapport dirig\u00e9 par une personnalit\u00e9 du monde anglo-saxon, n&rsquo;ont pas plac\u00e9 l&rsquo;affaire au niveau des conclusions de ce rapport, mais bien des excuses d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl et rien de moins. Que l&rsquo;ONU ait r\u00e9ussi \u00e0 sortir un rapport plut\u00f4t favorable \u00e0 Isra\u00ebl repr\u00e9sente une manuvre habituelle du bloc BAO, d&rsquo;ailleurs appuy\u00e9e sur la reconnaissance de la l\u00e9gitimit\u00e9 du blocus isra\u00e9lien \u00e0 cause des menaces terroristes venues de Gaza (sans se r\u00e9f\u00e9rer \u00e0 la situation g\u00e9n\u00e9rale entre Isra\u00ebl et les palestiniens, plong\u00e9e dans la plus compl\u00e8te ill\u00e9galit\u00e9, et cela depuis la r\u00e9solution de 1967 sur l&rsquo;\u00e9vacuation des territoires occup\u00e9s) ; cette manuvre n&rsquo;est pas n\u00e9cessairement habile, dans la mesure o\u00f9 elle conduit la Turquie au radicalisme de sa r\u00e9action. Quelques observations suppl\u00e9mentaires de <em>DEBKAFiles<\/em> montrent par ailleurs qu&rsquo;une fraction importante de la communaut\u00e9 de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 nationale isra\u00e9lienne n&rsquo;attend plus rien de la Turquie :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Some Israeli officials refer to Turkey as an important regional power which should be placated. The facts do not support this description. The rift will be healed only when Turkey&rsquo;s rulers stop using Israel as whipping boy for their failed agendas, whether in the Sunni or the Shiite arenas, and understand that the Israeli army is not about to play kids&rsquo; games with Turkish terrorists.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Israel must understand too that the glory days of close military ties, when Turkish military air crews training in Israel swooped low over the Tel Aviv beachfront are gone for good. Erdogan has forced the generals of those days into retirement or put them in jail.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tAussit\u00f4t, d&rsquo;ailleurs, ce m\u00eame texte hausse la querelle au niveau supr\u00eame, celui des relations des deux pays avec les USA (en m\u00eame temps qu&rsquo;au niveau de la position de la Turquie au sein de l&rsquo;OTAN), avec cette affaire du r\u00e9seau anti-missiles, pr\u00e9sent\u00e9e comme une machination turque anti-isra\u00e9lienne, et anti-US par cons\u00e9quent, selon l&rsquo;imp\u00e9ratif des liens de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 entre les USA et Isra\u00ebl. On est tout de m\u00eame conduit \u00e0 observer que cette humeur isra\u00e9lienne qui transpara\u00eet du texte de <em>DEBKAFiles<\/em>, par comparaison avec le texte du m\u00eame site de juin 2011 o\u00f9 la Turquie \u00e9tait d\u00e9crite comme cherchant \u00e0 se rapprocher d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl, marque une certaine amertume de l&rsquo;\u00e9chec d&rsquo;une manuvre isra\u00e9lienne tendant \u00e0 rechercher un rapprochement avec la Turquie, \u00e0 l&rsquo;occasion de la situation en Syrie, mais dans des conditions o\u00f9 la Turquie serait le pays qui aurait fait le premier pas. Pour l&rsquo;instant, toutes ces manuvres aboutissent \u00e0 une tension renouvel\u00e9e, sur une affaire \u00e0 la fois symbolique et formelle sur laquelle aucun des deux pays n&rsquo;entend c\u00e9der, parce qu&rsquo;il est question de sa r\u00e9putation pour chacun d&rsquo;eux, de son statut \u00e0 la fois de puissance et d&rsquo;autonomie. Cette sorte de tension est extr\u00eamement difficile \u00e0 apaiser, alors qu&rsquo;au contraire elle peut s&rsquo;accro\u00eetre au travers d&rsquo;affaires beaucoup plus large, qui feraient passer la crise isra\u00e9lo-turque au niveau des grands \u00e9quilibres des USA, du bloc BAO, de l&rsquo;OTAN, etc. La relance de la crise est assez joliment faite.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 3 septembre 2011 \u00e0 12H31<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tension \u00e9vidente et grandissante dans les rapports entre Isra\u00ebl et la Turquie, apr\u00e8s la publication du rapport de l&rsquo;ONU sur la crise de la flottille de la libert\u00e9. Les Turcs ont r\u00e9agi avec vigueur \u00e0 ce rapport d&rsquo;un ancien Premier ministre n\u00e9o-z\u00e9landais, sir Geoffrey Palmer, qui s&rsquo;abstient de condamner Isra\u00ebl de quelque fa\u00e7on substantielle que&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[3453,2631,11461,9629,2622,3287,584],"class_list":["post-74031","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-anti-missiles","tag-de","tag-debka","tag-flotille","tag-la","tag-liberte","tag-otan"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74031","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=74031"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74031\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=74031"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=74031"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=74031"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}