{"id":74305,"date":"2011-12-06T06:43:21","date_gmt":"2011-12-06T06:43:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/12\/06\/netanyahou-barak-versus-iran-et-usa-realignement-et-fondement\/"},"modified":"2011-12-06T06:43:21","modified_gmt":"2011-12-06T06:43:21","slug":"netanyahou-barak-versus-iran-et-usa-realignement-et-fondement","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/12\/06\/netanyahou-barak-versus-iran-et-usa-realignement-et-fondement\/","title":{"rendered":"Netanyahou-Barak versus<\/em> Iran et USA : r\u00e9alignement et fondement"},"content":{"rendered":"

Il y a d’autres points int\u00e9ressants \u00e0 signaler dans ce r\u00e9alignement du cas isra\u00e9lien prenant en compte l’esp\u00e8ce de division de facto<\/em> de la direction du pays entre son gouvernement l\u00e9gal r\u00e9duit \u00e0 Netanyahou-Barak, et le groupe officieux form\u00e9 autour de l’ancien chef du Mossad<\/em> Meir Dagan. (Concernant cette division de facto<\/em> de la direction isra\u00e9lienne que les USA eux-m\u00eames utilisent, voir notre Bloc-Notes<\/em> du 5 d\u00e9cembre 2011<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tCe ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne, qui a compl\u00e8tement \u00e0 voir avec la crise majeure et terminale des concepts de l\u00e9gitimit\u00e9 et d’autorit\u00e9 que suscite la crise terminale du Syst\u00e8me, conduit \u00e0 de consid\u00e9rables changements dans la guerre de communication en cours. Le plus important est sans aucun doute le tournant radical de rh\u00e9torique de communication des neocons<\/em> aux USA, pour justifier l’hostilit\u00e9, voire l’attaque contre l’Iran. La rh\u00e9torique de l’Holocauste-II (l’Iran acquiert la bombe pour aussit\u00f4t<\/strong> rayer Isra\u00ebl de la carte) est balay\u00e9e au profit des simples consid\u00e9rations d’h\u00e9g\u00e9monie dans la r\u00e9gion. Ce tournant est mis en \u00e9vidence par le site PoliticalCorrection.org<\/em> du groupe Media Matters Action<\/em>, le 3 d\u00e9cembre 2011<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abSuddenly the struggle to stop Iran is not about saving Israel from nuclear annihilation. After a decade of scare-mongering about the second coming of Nazi Germany, the Iran hawks are admitting that they have other reasons for wanting to take out Iran, and saving Israeli lives may not be one of them. Suddenly the neoconservatives have discovered the concept of truth-telling, although, no doubt, the shift will be ephemeral.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe shift in the rationale for war was kicked off this week when Danielle Pletka, head of the American Enterprise Institute’s (AEI) foreign policy shop and one of the most prominent neoconservatives in Washington, explained what the current obsession with Iran’s nuclear program is all about.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe biggest problem for the United States is not Iran getting a nuclear weapon and testing it, it’s Iran getting a nuclear weapon and not using it. Because the second that they have one and they don’t do anything bad, all of the naysayers are going to come back and say, See, we told you Iran is a responsible power. We told you Iran wasn’t getting nuclear weapons in order to use them immediately.’ … And they will eventually define Iran with nuclear weapons as not a problem.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbHold on. The biggest problem with Iran getting a nuclear weapon is not that Iranians will use it but that they won’t use it and that they might behave like a responsible power? But what about the hysteria about a second Holocaust? What about Prime Minister Netanyahu’s assertion that this is 1938 and Hitler is on the march? What about all of these pronouncements that Iran must be prevented from developing a nuclear weapons because the apocalyptic mullahs would happily commit national suicide in order to destroy Israel? And what about AIPAC and its satellites, which produce one sanctions bill after another (all dutifully passed by Congress) because of the existential threat that Iran poses to Israel? Did Pletka lose her talking points?<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbApparently not.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbPletka’s never mind about the imminent danger of an Iranian bomb seems to be the new line from the bastion of neoconservativism. Earlier this week, one of Pletka’s colleagues at AEI said pretty much the same thing. Writing in the Weekly Standard, Thomas Donnelly explained that we’ve got the Iran problem all wrong and that we need to understand the nature of the conflict. He continued: We’re fixated on the Iranian nuclear program while the Tehran regime has its eyes on the real prize: the balance of power in the Persian Gulf and the greater Middle East.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tUn autre aspect de cette nouvelle orientation est, d’une fa\u00e7on paradoxale par rapport \u00e0 ce qui pr\u00e9c\u00e8de (o\u00f9 les neocons<\/em> se situent comme acteurs de l’am\u00e9ricanisme et donc partie prenante de la politique US), la d\u00e9nonciation forcen\u00e9e de l’attitude des USA vis-\u00e0-vis d’Isra\u00ebl et, justement, l’hypoth\u00e8se de la prise en consid\u00e9ration du groupe Dagan et des contacts entre la direction US et le groupe Dagan, tout cela d\u00e9j\u00e0 explicit\u00e9 dans notre texte r\u00e9f\u00e9renc\u00e9 plus haut. C’est \u00e0 nouveau DEBKAFiles<\/em> qui revient sur ce fait, le 6 d\u00e9cembre 2011<\/a>, dans un texte g\u00e9n\u00e9ral consacr\u00e9 aux risques pressants, selon le site, de conflagration g\u00e9n\u00e9rale au Moyen-Orient.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tLe passage ci-dessous met en \u00e9vidence un aspect peu mentionn\u00e9, qui est une critique d’Hillary Clinton contre ce qui est d\u00e9sign\u00e9 comme une confiscation du pouvoir isra\u00e9lien par des extr\u00e9mistes religieux de droite. On observera que cette attaque suit une critique fondamentale du m\u00eame type, d’un autre ancien chef du Mossad<\/em>, Efra\u00efm Halevy, qu’on peut compter comme partie du groupe Dagan, affirmant que le plus grave danger mena\u00e7ant aujourd’hui Isra\u00ebl est la mont\u00e9e de l’extr\u00e9misme religieux imposant des conditions draconiennes de discrimination entre les citoyens isra\u00e9liens juifs eux-m\u00eames. (Voir Ouverture libre<\/em>, le 4 novembre 2011<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tVoici l’extrait de l’article de DEBKAFiles<\/em>, qui emploie des termes d’une force tr\u00e8s grande pour qualifier l’intervention de la secr\u00e9taire d’Etat, l’accusant de mettre en cause la l\u00e9gitimit\u00e9 du gouvernement isra\u00e9lien, critique typique contre le groupe Dagan : \u00abIn the last two weeks, the Netanyahu government has been subjected to acerbic criticism on the part of one Obama administration official after another. They have presented Israel as having fallen into the hands of right-wing extremists who are engaged in a mad race to suppress the judiciary and diminish the civil rights of women and children not to mention Palestinians.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbSecretary of State of Hillary Clinton went to unimaginable lengths when she likened Israel to Iran because fringe ultraorthodox group’s in a couple of suburbs in Jerusalem and Bnei Brak were fighting for gender segregation on public transport against the government and the courts. She was clearly aiming to undermine the Netanyahu government’s democratic credentials and therefore his moral legitimacy for going to war to halt Iran’s attainment of a nuclear weapon.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tCes divers constats, d\u00e9clarations, commentaires, etc., montrent que dans cette affaire \u00e0 la fois isra\u00e9lo-am\u00e9ricaniste, isra\u00e9lo-iranienne et m\u00eame isra\u00e9lo-isra\u00e9lienne, on joue maintenant \u00e0 visages d\u00e9couverts. Les artifices de communication tendent de plus en plus \u00e0 \u00eatre abandonn\u00e9s, notamment cet \u00e9norme et grossier montage de l’accusation d’une volont\u00e9 d’an\u00e9antissement d’Isra\u00ebl (Holocauste-II) par l’Iran.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tAu reste, ce n’est pas un simple r\u00e9alignement des uns et des autres en fonction de la pression d’une crise sp\u00e9cifique, m\u00eame si c’est aussi cela \u00e9videmment. Il s’agit surtout d’un aspect d’un ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne g\u00e9n\u00e9ral que produit la crise g\u00e9n\u00e9rale d’effondrement du Syst\u00e8me entr\u00e9e dans sa phase active et d\u00e9vastatrice. De plus en plus, les pressions de cette crise, si forte, si d\u00e9cisive, si abyssale en un sens, dispersent les montages accomplis lorsque \u00e9tait en pleine activit\u00e9 ce que nous nommions le virtualisme, ces montages de fausses r\u00e9alit\u00e9s auxquels les responsables des montages croyaient eux-m\u00eames. Le virtualisme est en train de dispara\u00eetre sous les pressions de la crise centrale d’effondrement, sans m\u00eame que les acteurs eux-m\u00eames, les manipulateurs du virtualisme, s’aper\u00e7oivent du ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne. Eux-m\u00eames sont press\u00e9s, emport\u00e9s, balay\u00e9s par la crise g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, et ils r\u00e9agissent comme l’on fait en cas d’urgence, en revenant \u00e0 leurs pr\u00e9occupations r\u00e9elles, \u00e0 leur v\u00e9rit\u00e9<\/strong> en un sens, d’une fa\u00e7on paradoxale Ainsi en \u00e9tait-il \u00e9galement des d\u00e9clarations de Panetta, analys\u00e9es dans le m\u00eame texte du 5 d\u00e9cembre 2011<\/a>, o\u00f9 le secr\u00e9taire US \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense ne se pr\u00e9occupait plus de l’apparat virtualiste US vis-\u00e0-vis d’Isra\u00ebl pour affirmer brutalement les priorit\u00e9s US, et surtout de son cher Pentagone, l’un et l’autre (les USA et le Pentagone) balay\u00e9s par leurs propres crises. Nous entrons \u00e0 toute vapeur dans le temps o\u00f9 toutes les v\u00e9rit\u00e9s<\/strong> sont bonnes \u00e0 dire parce que l’urgence d’une crise sans pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent dans l’Histoire accule \u00e0 des positions de survie des composants et des acteurs du Syst\u00e8me.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

\tMis en ligne le 6 d\u00e9cembre 2010\u00e0 06H39<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Il y a d’autres points int\u00e9ressants \u00e0 signaler dans ce r\u00e9alignement du cas isra\u00e9lien prenant en compte l’esp\u00e8ce de division de facto de la direction du pays entre son gouvernement l\u00e9gal r\u00e9duit \u00e0 Netanyahou-Barak, et le groupe officieux form\u00e9 autour de l’ancien chef du Mossad Meir Dagan. (Concernant cette division de facto de la direction… <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[7359,934,3015,9636,11462,4371,3347,3278,11759,2773,5675,1104,2790,6197,1443,5445,610],"class_list":["post-74305","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-barak","tag-clinton","tag-communication","tag-dagan","tag-debkafiles","tag-donnelly","tag-halevy","tag-hillary","tag-holocauste-ii","tag-iran","tag-mossad","tag-neocons","tag-netanyahou","tag-panetta","tag-pletka","tag-verite","tag-virtualisme"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74305","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=74305"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74305\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=74305"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=74305"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=74305"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}