{"id":74361,"date":"2011-12-24T09:56:49","date_gmt":"2011-12-24T09:56:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/12\/24\/ndaa-contre-occupy\/"},"modified":"2011-12-24T09:56:49","modified_gmt":"2011-12-24T09:56:49","slug":"ndaa-contre-occupy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2011\/12\/24\/ndaa-contre-occupy\/","title":{"rendered":"NDAA contre <em>Occupy<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h4>NDAA contre <em>Occupy<\/em><\/h4>\n<p>Ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.presstv.com\/detail\/217393.html\" class=\"gen\">24 d\u00e9cembre 2011<\/a>, le site iranien <em>PressTV.com<\/em> pr\u00e9sente une interview de Ralph Schoemann, auteur et commentateur politique de Berkeley, \u00e0 propos de la r\u00e9pression du mouvement <em>Occupy<\/em>, notamment \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de la nouvelle loi National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), avec le fameux amendement qui fait juger \u00e0 certains (dont <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-ron_paul_denonce_une_loi_martiale__16_12_2011.html\" class=\"gen\">Ron Paul<\/a>) qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;une loi martiale <em>de facto<\/em> impos\u00e9e sur le territoire des USA lui-m\u00eame.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tSchoenman affirme qu&rsquo;il existe une fascisation du gouvernement US face \u00e0 la contestation d&rsquo;<em>Occupy<\/em>, et, d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on plus g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, selon son expression, \u00ab<em>Crackdown turns US into fascist state<\/em>\u00bb. Notre appr\u00e9ciation reste nuanc\u00e9e sur l&#8217;emploi de ces termes qui ont une connotation historique et id\u00e9ologique trop sp\u00e9cifique. S&rsquo;il existe effectivement tout un pan de comportement des forces de l&rsquo;ordre et, d\u00e9sormais, de l\u00e9gislations s&rsquo;apparentant effectivement \u00e0 des \u00c9tats fascistes,  en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, le pan de la r\u00e9pression et de l&rsquo;\u00c9tat policier,  une autre partie de la structure et de la l\u00e9gislation US en fait quelque chose de tout \u00e0 fait diff\u00e9rent du fascisme ; la d\u00e9centralisation, la libert\u00e9 d&rsquo;acquisition des armes, certaines proc\u00e9dures juridiques contraignantes <strong>contre<\/strong> le gouvernement central, etc., font des USA un mod\u00e8le extr\u00eamement sp\u00e9cifique de pays \u00e0 structure polici\u00e8re et de r\u00e9pression, dont l&rsquo;\u00e9volution devrait \u00eatre beaucoup plus vers l&rsquo;\u00e9clatement, la dissolution, que vers une centralisation \u00e9tatique fasciste. Il ne s&rsquo;agit donc pas d&rsquo;exon\u00e9rer les USA d&rsquo;une critique fondamentale, mais bien de comprendre qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;une situation diff\u00e9rente que la voie vers le fascisme,  au moins aussi critiquable, certes, mais diff\u00e9rente.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl est \u00e9vident que la l\u00e9gislation NDAA, qui est une addition fondamentale au pan policier de la structure US, devrait \u00eatre utilis\u00e9e en cas de troubles int\u00e9rieurs, \u00e9ventuellement contre <em>Occupy<\/em>. (Il suffit de proclamer que les membres d&rsquo;<em>Occupy<\/em> sont des terroristes, et l&rsquo;affaire est faite.) Il y a d\u00e9j\u00e0 eu 5.425 arrestation de membres d&rsquo;<em>Occupy<\/em> entre le 17 septembre et le 12 d\u00e9cembre ; mais on ignore bien entendu le nombre de relaxes ou de peines mineures, qui devrait \u00eatre \u00e9lev\u00e9. En cas d&rsquo;application de la l\u00e9gislation NDAA, qui vient d&rsquo;\u00eatre vot\u00e9e, ces arrestations pourraient \u00eatre maintenues ind\u00e9finiment, sans aucune proc\u00e9dure juridique particuli\u00e8re. Dans ce cas, on se trouverait dans l&rsquo;hypoth\u00e8se examin\u00e9e ici, mais notre appr\u00e9ciation est qu&rsquo;une telle attitude des autorit\u00e9s devrait conduire \u00e0 des r\u00e9actions tr\u00e8s violentes,  d&rsquo;autant, comme le dit Ralph Schoemann, que la contestation est aujourd&rsquo;hui un mouvement massif aux USA.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>There has been a coordinated effort [to suppress protests] in forty cities directed by the National Securities Administration and by military and by coordination with police chiefs that has been in place. It&rsquo;s a national policy of crackdown, said Ralph Schoenman, American author and political commentator from Berkeley, in an interview with our channel on Friday.<\/em> [ ] <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>And I suggest we see this in the context of a recently approved National Defense Authorization Act [NDAA], which allows for those charged with threatening national security in any form or associating with those who are supposed to be a threat to the national security, as defined by the military, to be subject to disappearance, indefinite detention without entitlement to a lawyer or to due process or charge or trial, the commentator added.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em> That&rsquo;s the context in which to see this crackdown and it&rsquo;s one that I call the architecture of the fascist state being rapidly put in place in this country, Schoenman asserted. Apart from brutal methods used by the police to stifle Occupy protests, this brutality, by the way, has been a permanent feature of the police treatment of the most oppressed sectors of the population. African Americans and the inner cities, as we call them, are really treated by the police as if they were an occupying arm, he noted.<\/em>  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t&#8230;<D>[T]<em>he dynamic of this [Occupy] movement is of such a magnitude across the US in every city and in every location and every working class community, that the authorities are on the defensive and this movement is spreading by the hour and the day.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<p class=\"signature\"><em>dedefensa.org<\/em><\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NDAA contre Occupy Ce 24 d\u00e9cembre 2011, le site iranien PressTV.com pr\u00e9sente une interview de Ralph Schoemann, auteur et commentateur politique de Berkeley, \u00e0 propos de la r\u00e9pression du mouvement Occupy, notamment \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de la nouvelle loi National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), avec le fameux amendement qui fait juger \u00e0 certains (dont Ron&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[6678,7021,3756,11812,2727,11781,11493,3757,11811,2804],"class_list":["post-74361","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ouverture-libre","tag-decentralisation","tag-eclatement","tag-etat","tag-fascisation","tag-fasciste","tag-ndaa","tag-occupy","tag-policier","tag-schoemann","tag-usa"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74361","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=74361"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74361\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=74361"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=74361"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=74361"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}