{"id":74487,"date":"2012-02-10T06:36:11","date_gmt":"2012-02-10T06:36:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/02\/10\/de-la-syrie-a-la-libye-demonstration-ad-absurdum-et-ad-nauseam\/"},"modified":"2012-02-10T06:36:11","modified_gmt":"2012-02-10T06:36:11","slug":"de-la-syrie-a-la-libye-demonstration-ad-absurdum-et-ad-nauseam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/02\/10\/de-la-syrie-a-la-libye-demonstration-ad-absurdum-et-ad-nauseam\/","title":{"rendered":"De la Syrie \u00e0 la Libye, d\u00e9monstration ad absurdum<\/em> et ad nauseam<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dans notre Bloc Notes d’hier sur la nouvelle situation de la Russie dans la crise syrienne (9 f\u00e9vrier 2012<\/a>), nous citions des remarques de Vladimir Poutine du jour pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent. Faisant la parall\u00e8le avec la Syrie, le Premier ministre russe disait quelques mots sur la situation en Libye et la fa\u00e7on dont cette situation est aujourd’hui ignor\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abJe comprends bien la nature de l’ancien r\u00e9gime libyen. On en a beaucoup parl\u00e9. Mais personne ne parle de la situation qui pr\u00e9vaut actuellement \u00e0 Syrte et d’autres villes libyennes qui avaient appuy\u00e9 Kadhafi. On y commet des crimes \u00e9pouvantables et personne n’en parle, parce qu’il s’agit des cons\u00e9quences horribles de l’ing\u00e9rence \u00e9trang\u00e8re arm\u00e9e. Cela pourrait arriver aussi en Syrie<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t Le 9 f\u00e9vrier 2012<\/a>, Russia Today<\/em>, relayant une nouvelle de DEBKAFiles<\/em>, d\u00e9veloppait ce qui devient l’\u00e9vidence d’une intervention du bloc BAO en Syrie, sous la forme de forces sp\u00e9ciales d’encadrement quataris et britanniques. L’analogie avec la Libye est \u00e9vidente, il s’agit bien du m\u00eame mod\u00e8le<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abBritish and Qatari troops are directing rebel ammunition deliveries and tactics in the bloody battle for Homs, according to an Israeli website known for links to intelligence sources. Four centers of operation have been established in the city with the troops on the ground paving the way for an undercover Turkish military incursion into Syria.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe debkafile site said the presence of British and Qatari troops in Homs topped the agenda of Tuesday’s talks between Assad’s officials and head of Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service Mikhail Fradkov. Qatar makes little secret of supporting the Syrian opposition with cash, arms and political support. Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani said in mid-January he is ready to send troops to Syria to stop the violence there. Britain insists it is not planning any military action against the Assad regime.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe scenario painted by the report closely resembles Libya’s collapse into anarchy. UN Security Council resolution 1973 forbade any ground troops from intervening in Libya while creating a pretext for NATO to launch a bombing campaign against Muammar Gaddafi’s troops.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t Le m\u00eame article de RT est all\u00e9 consulter un expert sur les questions du Moyen-Orient, qui en vaut certainement bien d’autres dans la myriade de ceux qui nous sont r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement propos\u00e9s par notre presse-Syst\u00e8me. L\u00e0 aussi, nous n’aurons que fort peu de surprise, l’analyse d\u00e9couvrant une manipulation de l’opposition au pr\u00e9sident syrien Assad, soutenue par les experts du bloc BAO \u00abAli Rizk, a Middle East expert talking live to RT from Beirut, described the UK and Qatari intervention as a sign of how desperate the anti-Assad forces have become. After the Russian veto dealt a severe blow to their agenda, now they are in a state of desperation where they’ll probably stop at nothing to try and regain the momentum again, said Rizk.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbHe then linked the refusal of pockets of the opposition forces to negotiate unless Assad falls as part of a Western agenda to remove a political obstacle to their interests in the region. For the West it’s not about negotiations; it’s about overthrowing a regime which is part of a border block which Western powers want to get rid of. The political stance is that if we overwhelm Assad we’ve dealt a severe blow to Iran’s presence and Hezbollah, two of Israel’s staunch enemies.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t Triste cerise sur la g\u00e2teau, le m\u00eame Russia Today<\/em> (RT) publie, le m\u00eame 9 f\u00e9vrier 2012<\/a>, un long article sur la question des victimes des troubles en Syrie, et la responsabilit\u00e9 \u00e0 attribuer pour la production de ces victimes. La presse-Syst\u00e8me unanime du bloc BAO les attribue \u00e0 la r\u00e9pression du gouvernement Assad, tout comme elle attribuait unanimement les victimes de l’affaire libyenne au gouvernement en place, celui de Kadhafi. RT explore, \u00e0 l’aide de diverses interviews de personnes identifi\u00e9es, la situation de ce d\u00e9compte des victimes et des responsabilit\u00e9s impliqu\u00e9es. L’article met en \u00e9vidence les querelles internes qui viennent d’\u00e9clater \u00e0 l’int\u00e9rieur de l’organisation priv\u00e9e (ONG) qui est la principale source pour nous informer sur cette question de qui est responsable de quoi dans la tuerie syrienne. Sans grande surprise, on commence \u00e0 d\u00e9couvrir l’\u00e9vidence de la manipulation faite, \u00e0 l’int\u00e9rieur de cette organisation avec des agents d’influence infiltr\u00e9s, pour charger le gouvernement Assad. Bien \u00e9videmment, comme toujours dans cette sorte d’occurrence, la situation appara\u00eet beaucoup plus contrast\u00e9e, sinon compl\u00e8tement biais\u00e9e. L’\u00e9vidence, toujours elle, montre un groupe manipulant les informations sur les victimes pour pouvoir justifier d’un appel \u00e0 une intervention du bloc BAO en faveur des rebelles.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abHigh casualty numbers in Syria are reported daily by the media, even though a blackout makes them unverifiable. Things became murkier after a human rights site, which enjoyed frequent citations, split in two and began giving conflicting reports. The British-based Syrian Observatory of Human Rights (SOHR) is one of the most widely-quoted sources of Syrian casualty figures. However the group is currently experiencing an ownership row, which has left media outlets wondering how reliable this source is.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbCurrently there are two sites, each claiming to be the official Observatory. The original one is in Arabic with an English version on Facebook. The splinter site was launched in December, with most posts in English. Both call each other impostors. They give different casualty reports and a very different perspective of the crisis. The original site’s latest figures show just over 5,100 civilian deaths against almost 2,000 military casualties. The rival site claims well over 6,500 civilians have been killed and barely 600 troops. The numbers are not the only thing the two SOHR groups differ on though. Politics seems to be at the core of the split.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe man behind the new site is Mousab Azzawi. He launched a smear campaign against the original Observatory co-founder Rami Abdulrahman. Azzawi revealed Abdulrahman’s real name and said his rival was linked to the Assad family, is unprofessional and barely related to the Observatory. He also accused the rival of hijacking the original site by changing all logins and passwords. The original Observatory says Mousab Azzawi used to translate for them, but then was fired after he falsely claimed to be an official spokesman for the group and called for foreign intervention into Syria.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbRT’s Ivor Bennet spoke to Hivin Kako, who is spokesperson of the original SOHR. Azzawi group tried to pass some political view like calling for a no-fly zone and international intervention. We made it clear that we are against an intervention; we are against a no-fly zone. All we need is to stop the bloodshed that is going on in Syria, she said<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t Et tout cela pour quoi ? Tout cela ayant \u00e9t\u00e9 expos\u00e9, et effectivement selon la suggestion d’une analogie avec les \u00e9v\u00e8nements tels qu’ils se d\u00e9roul\u00e8rent en Libye jusqu’\u00e0 la situation pr\u00e9sente, on est fond\u00e9 \u00e0 se demander, pour en terminer avec la recherche de notre \u00e9dification, quelle est la situation pr\u00e9sente en Libye Le m\u00eame jour o\u00f9 Poutine faisait la d\u00e9claration cit\u00e9e plus haut, le New York Times<\/em> publiait un long article de Anthony Shadid (le 8 f\u00e9vrier 2012<\/a>). Il s’agit d’un long reportage sur la situation en Libye, qui, bien au-del\u00e0 des seules villes cit\u00e9es par Poutine, embrasse l’enti\u00e8ret\u00e9 du pays. Un seul mot pour r\u00e9sumer cette situation : chaos<\/strong>. Aucun signe que rien ne puisse changer, dans l’impuissance g\u00e9n\u00e9rale et le d\u00e9couragement \u00e0 mesure. Nous citons le d\u00e9but du reportage et sa conclusion, avec comme devise extr\u00eamement ironique et postmoderniste de la chose cette remarque d’un officiel du gouvernement (puisque gouvernement il semblerait y avoir), freedom is a problem<\/em>… Ploum ploum tra la la<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00abAs the militiamen saw it, they had the best of intentions. They assaulted another militia at a seaside base here this week to rescue a woman who had been abducted. When the guns fell silent, briefly, the scene that unfolded felt as chaotic as Libya’s revolution these days a government whose authority extends no further than its offices, militias whose swagger comes from guns far too plentiful and residents whose patience fades with every volley of gunfire that cracks at night.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe woman was soon freed. The base was theirs. And the plunder began.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbNothing gets taken out! shouted one of the militiamen, trying to enforce order. It did anyway: a box of grenades, rusted heavy machine guns, ammunition belts, grenade launchers, crates of bottled water and an aquarium propped improbably on a moped. Men from a half-dozen militias ferried out the goods, occasionally firing into the air. They fought over looted cars, then shot them up when they did not get their way.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThis is destruction! complained Nouri Ftais, a 51-year-old commander, who offered a rare, unheeded voice of reason. We’re destroying Libya with our bare hands.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThe country that witnessed the Arab world’s most sweeping revolution is foundering. So is its capital, where a semblance of normality has returned after the chaotic days of the fall of Tripoli last August. But no one would consider a city ordinary where militiamen tortured to death an urbane former diplomat two weeks ago, where hundreds of refugees deemed loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi waited hopelessly in a camp and where a government official acknowledged that freedom is a problem. Much about the scene on Wednesday was lamentable, perhaps because the discord was so commonplace. Some of it is really overwhelming, said Ashur Shamis, an adviser to Libya’s interim prime minister, Abdel-Rahim el-Keeb. But somehow we have this crazy notion that we can defeat it.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbThere remains optimism in Tripoli, not least because the country sits atop so much oil. But Mr. Keeb’s government, formed Nov. 28, has found itself virtually paralyzed by rivalries that have forced it to divvy up power along lines of regions and personalities, by unfulfillable expectations that Colonel Qaddafi’s fall would bring prosperity, and by a powerlessness so marked that the national army is treated as if it were another militia.<\/em> []<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbBut as on most nights, militias returned to contest other spots in the city, demarcating their turf. Like a winter squall, their shooting thundered over the Mediterranean seafront into the early hours. In the dark, no one could read the slogans in Quds Square. Because the price was the blood of our children, let’s unify, let’s show tolerance and let’s live together, one read. In the dark, no one knew who was firing.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\t\u00bbWhat’s wrong with them? asked Mahmoud Mgairish. He stood near the square the next morning, as a soft sun seemed to wash the streets. I don’t know where this country is heading, he went on. I swear to God, this will never get untangled.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n

Notre commentaire<\/h4>\n

Ce qui est d\u00e9sesp\u00e9rant dans cette longue litanie de r\u00e9v\u00e9lations qui ne r\u00e9v\u00e8lent rien du tout qui ne soit \u00e9vident<\/strong>, c’est \u00e9videmment l’absence totale de surprise. Tout existe, tout se passe et se d\u00e9roule, tout d\u00e9bouche sur les m\u00eames manipulations, les m\u00eames tromperies encha\u00eenant sur les m\u00eames catastrophes, toutes choses que les appr\u00e9ciations les plus pessimistes et les plus ind\u00e9pendantes (les plus antiSyst\u00e8me, si vous voulez) ont annonc\u00e9es depuis si longtemps et annoncent r\u00e9guli\u00e8rement, sans faire montre d’une lucidit\u00e9 particuli\u00e8re et en consultant simplement l’\u00e9vidence de la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 du monde. Encore plus que les montages et les op\u00e9rations clandestines r\u00e9alis\u00e9es pour b\u00e2tir toujours la m\u00eame narrative<\/em>, s’il existe un mod\u00e8le, et \u00e9cul\u00e9, c’est bien celui de la narrative<\/em> du bloc BAO et de ses acolytes, le fait le plus remarquable est l’absence totale d’enseignement tir\u00e9es des aventures pr\u00e9c\u00e9dentes. Si l’on peut constater \u00e9videmment dans l’acte du bloc BAO une duplicit\u00e9 compl\u00e8te et g\u00e9n\u00e9rale, on pourrait alors attendre de cette duplicit\u00e9 qu’elle ne soit pas d\u00e9pourvue de m\u00e9moire et d’intelligence, et qu’elle tire des enseignements des op\u00e9rations pass\u00e9es pour rendre les op\u00e9rations pr\u00e9sentes plus efficaces. Admettons la duplicit\u00e9, certes, comme une fatalit\u00e9 de la soi-disant realpolitik<\/em> dont les experts font leurs choux maigres, mais esp\u00e9rons qu’elle ne soit pas compl\u00e8tement stupide jusqu’\u00e0 r\u00e9p\u00e9ter sans cesse les m\u00eames erreurs. Ce n’est pas le cas. Notre duplicit\u00e9, en plus d’\u00eatre ce qu’elle est, est d’une stupidit\u00e9 qui semble n’avoir pas de bornes, sans doute quelque chose comme au-del\u00e0 de la stupidit\u00e9, jusqu’\u00e0 r\u00e9p\u00e9ter m\u00e9caniquement les m\u00eames machinations entra\u00eenant m\u00e9caniquement les m\u00eames erreurs, d\u00e9bouchant m\u00e9caniquement sur les m\u00eames catastrophes, et catastrophes pour elle-m\u00eame<\/strong> (notre duplicit\u00e9), pour ses propres plans. (La souffrance des gens, inutile et cruelle bien entendu, pars\u00e8me le long chemin de cette stupidit\u00e9 catastrophique.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tAinsi en revenons-nous aux caract\u00e8res psychologiques des directions politiques du bloc BAO et des ex\u00e9cutants des op\u00e9rations ordonn\u00e9es par ces directions politiques, et de la position des uns et des autres par rapport aux pressions d’un Syst\u00e8me qui les gouvernent totalement<\/strong> par son influence ; et Syst\u00e8me qui est aujourd’hui suffisamment surpuissant et autonome pour g\u00e9n\u00e9rer sa propre politique aveugle de d\u00e9structuration et de dissolution selon des normes automatiques qui ne sont \u00e9videmment jamais soumises au feu de la critique interne et de l’exp\u00e9rience. Les psychologies de nos dirigeants sont trop faibles pour seulement mettre en question le contenu des pressions-Syst\u00e8me qui s’exercent sur eux ; ils ex\u00e9cutent la chose en robots qui s’ab\u00eement dans leurs \u00e9pisodes maniaques permettant de construire leur monde virtualiste justifiant la narrative<\/em> centrale impos\u00e9e par le Syst\u00e8me. Les ex\u00e9cutants ex\u00e9cutent, sans plus s’interroger sur la forme de leurs interventions, ni sur le fait que cette forme duplique ce qui s’est d\u00e9j\u00e0 produit dans d’autres occurrences et a conduit \u00e0 des catastrophes. Cette faiblesse psychologique g\u00e9n\u00e9rale emp\u00eache toute m\u00e9moire critique, voire toute m\u00e9moire tout court. Les d\u00e9cisions politiques sont totalement, on dirait presque (cas de la pathologie) cliniquement<\/strong> erron\u00e9es, en plus d’\u00eatre cruelles et ill\u00e9gales. La logique et les discours qui d\u00e9veloppent cette logique, pour justifier les d\u00e9cisions, deviennent extr\u00eamement grotesques. Le scandale, c’est qu’un homme si \u00e9l\u00e9gant et au parler si caract\u00e9ristique des \u00e9lites fran\u00e7aises qu’un Alain Jupp\u00e9 puisse dire du veto russe \u00e0 l’ONU que c’est un scandale. C’est en l’occurrence monsieur Jupp\u00e9, le plus intelligent de notre g\u00e9n\u00e9ration comme disait Chirac, qui est un scandale d’aveuglement, de stupidit\u00e9 par ignorance, de grossi\u00e8ret\u00e9 mensong\u00e8re par faiblesse psychologique entra\u00eenant son \u00e9pisode maniaque \u00e0 lui par faiblesse habituelle. <\/p>\n<\/p>\n

\tEt maintenant, que fait-on ? Alors, Sarkozy d\u00e9croche son t\u00e9l\u00e9phone et parle \u00e0 Medvedev pour lui assurer que la France et la Russie sont des amies de longue et vieille date. Pour autant, rien n’est chang\u00e9 au programme de la catastrophe en cours. La compulsivit\u00e9 maniaque n’a ni bornes ni orientation, et le Syst\u00e8me, lui, sait ce qu’il veut.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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\tMis en ligne le 10 f\u00e9vrier 2012 \u00e0 06H36<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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