{"id":74678,"date":"2012-04-30T06:15:36","date_gmt":"2012-04-30T06:15:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/04\/30\/de-tel-aviv-a-teheran-le-renversement-des-fous\/"},"modified":"2012-04-30T06:15:36","modified_gmt":"2012-04-30T06:15:36","slug":"de-tel-aviv-a-teheran-le-renversement-des-fous","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2012\/04\/30\/de-tel-aviv-a-teheran-le-renversement-des-fous\/","title":{"rendered":"De Tel Aviv \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran, le \u201crenversement des fous\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h3 class=\"titrebloc\">De Tel Aviv \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran, le renversement des fous<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tD&rsquo;un c\u00f4t\u00e9, il y a des gens tr\u00e8s rationnels (selon Dagan et Gantz). Ils sont \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran et ils dirigent l&rsquo;Iran. De l&rsquo;autre c\u00f4t\u00e9, il y a des gens dirig\u00e9s par une vision messianique, donc pas vraiment rationnels du tout, sinon, m\u00eame, affect\u00e9s d&rsquo;une psychologie gravement d\u00e9rang\u00e9e. Ils sont \u00e0 Tel Aviv, selon Yuval Diskin, l&rsquo;ancien chef du Shin Bet (contre-espionnage isra\u00e9lien) jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 l&rsquo;automne dernier. Ainsi atteignons-nous \u00e0 la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 pathologique du conflit actuellement r\u00e9duit \u00e0 l&rsquo;invective de communication, entre Isra\u00e9liens et Iraniens ; caricaturalement, on pourrait dire qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;une sorte de renversement des fous&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tDonc, deux fameux n\u00e9gationnistes de la menace iranienne ont d\u00e9j\u00e0 affirm\u00e9 que la direction iranienne est rationnelle, ce qui exclut une intentionnalit\u00e9 folle d&rsquo;attaquer Isra\u00ebl si l&rsquo;Iran venait poss\u00e9der la bombe. (C&rsquo;est effectivement, cette folie d&rsquo;une attaque type-Holocauste, le fondement de communication, bas\u00e9 au d\u00e9part sur une traduction compl\u00e8tement <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-d_bat_sur_la_culpabilit_a_priori_de_l_iran_16_04_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">faussaire<\/a> d&rsquo;un discours du pr\u00e9sident iranien, de l&rsquo;id\u00e9e remu\u00e9e depuis des ann\u00e9es, jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 la naus\u00e9e, d&rsquo;une attaque de l&rsquo;Iran.)  Il s&rsquo;agit de Meir Dagan (le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_question_de_la_rationalite_de_la_direction_iranienne_10_03_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">10 mars 2012<\/a>) et du g\u00e9n\u00e9ral Gantz (le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-r_crimination_et_dissolution_isra_liennes_25_04_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">25 avril 2012<\/a>). Le m\u00eame Gantz parlait d&rsquo;ailleurs de l&rsquo;hyst\u00e9rie de la direction Netanyahou-Barak lorsqu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit de l&rsquo;Iran, ce qui amor\u00e7ait l&rsquo;aspect le plus important de la critique de Diskin (cette intervention de Diskin, dans <em>Haaretz<\/em>, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.haaretz.com\/news\/diplomacy-defense\/israel-s-former-shin-bet-chief-i-have-no-confidence-in-netanyahu-barak-1.426908\" class=\"gen\">28 avril 2012<\/a>).<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tNous avions signal\u00e9 <em>in extremis<\/em>, dans notre <em>Notes d&rsquo;analyse<\/em> du m\u00eame <a href=\" http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notes_sur_la_guerre_civile_isra_lienne_28_04_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">28 avril 2012<\/a>, l&rsquo;intervention de Diskin qui fait grand bruit. <em>Haaretz<\/em> la rapportait dans ces termes : \u00ab<em>Former Shin Bet chief Yuval Diskin expressed harsh criticism of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak on Friday in a meeting with residents of the city of Kfar Sava, saying the pair is not worthy of leading the country.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>My major problem is that I have no faith in the current leadership, which must lead us in an event on the scale of war with Iran or a regional war, Diskin told the Majdi Forum,&rsquo; a group of local residents that meets to discuss political issues. I don&rsquo;t believe in either the prime minister or the defense minister. I don&rsquo;t believe in a leadership that makes decisions based on messianic feelings, he added. Diskin deemed Barak and Netanyahu two messianics  the one from Akirov or the Assuta project and the other from Gaza Street or Caesarea, he said, referring to the two politicians&rsquo; places of residence.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Believe me, I have observed them from up close&#8230; They are not people who I, on a personal level, trust to lead Israel to an event on that scale and carry it off. These are not people who I would want to have holding the wheel in such an event, Diskin said. They are misleading the public on the Iran issue. They tell the public that if Israel acts, Iran won&rsquo;t have a nuclear bomb. This is misleading. Actually, many experts say that an Israeli attack would accelerate the Iranian nuclear race, said the former security chief.<\/em>\u00bb  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPour la premi\u00e8re fois, d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on directe, il y a une r\u00e9action imm\u00e9diate de la direction isra\u00e9lienne, qui est plut\u00f4t plaintive et impuissante. Diskin est d\u00e9nonc\u00e9 personnellement, mais c&rsquo;est le flot de critiques venues de personnalit\u00e9s \u00e9minentes de la direction technique de la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 nationale isra\u00e9lienne qui est implicitement vis\u00e9. Enfin, la mise en cause de l&rsquo;\u00e9quilibre psychologique des dirigeants isra\u00e9liens est durement ressentie. <em>PressTV.com<\/em> s&#8217;empresse de se faire l&rsquo;\u00e9cho de cette r\u00e9action aux propos de Diskin, ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.presstv.ir\/detail\/238739.html\" class=\"gen\">29 avril 2012<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Zvi Hauser, the Israeli cabinet secretary, said on Sunday that Diskin&rsquo;s comments were destructive. The Prime Minister works night and day to form an international front for the struggle against Iran. This struggle is Israel&rsquo;s main struggle today, and unfortunately there are those that with unfortunate statements, irresponsible statements, are breaking apart this front and weakening it, and that&rsquo;s a shame, he said.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe m\u00eame <em>PressTV.com<\/em> rapporte (le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.presstv.ir\/detail\/238764.html\" class=\"gen\">29 avril 2012<\/a>) la r\u00e9action du chef du parti d&rsquo;opposition <em>Kadima<\/em>, l&rsquo;ancien ministre de la d\u00e9fense Shaul Mofaz. Il s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;un soutien complet \u00e0 l&rsquo;intervention de Diskin, ce qui ne peut surprendre si l&rsquo;on a \u00e0 l&rsquo;esprit une r\u00e9cente (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-attaquer_l_iran_pour_cacher_la_crise_interieure_d_israel__30_03_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">30 mars 2012<\/a>) intervention du m\u00eame Mofaz qui accusait la direction Netanyahou-Barak de dissimuler la crise int\u00e9rieure profonde d&rsquo;Isra\u00ebl par leurs projets d&rsquo;attaque contre l&rsquo;Iran :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Speaking to Israel&rsquo;s Army Radio on Saturday, the chairman of the Kadima party backed the remarks made by Yuval Diskin, former director of Shin Bet, Israel&rsquo;s domestic security service, about Israel&rsquo;s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Ehud Barak, saying, To me, Diskin&rsquo;s words are a warning sign to be taken seriously, Ha&rsquo;aretz reported.<\/em> [&#8230;] [Mofaz] <em>said that he agreed with Diskin&rsquo;s assertion that the current regime was using the alleged Iranian threat to distract Israelis from other pressing issues, adding that the threat that Israel will become a bi-national state is far more serious than the Iranian nuclear issue.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tComme nous l&rsquo;observions (<a href=\" http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notes_sur_la_guerre_civile_isra_lienne_28_04_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">28 avril 2012<\/a>), la dissidence des n\u00e9gationnistes de l&rsquo;in\u00e9luctabilit\u00e9 de la menace iranienne est en train de prendre l&rsquo;allure d&rsquo;une crise interne majeure en Isra\u00ebl, d&rsquo;une guerre civile au sein de la direction de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 nationale du pays. Il s&rsquo;agit bien d&rsquo;un \u00e9l\u00e9ment concourant au renforcement de la n\u00e9buleuse des crises de la r\u00e9gion en <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_crise_haute_03_02_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">crise<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notes_sur_la_crise_haute_ddecrisis_20_02_2012.html\" class=\"gen\">haute<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLes deux aspects essentiels de la crise sont d\u00e9sormais explicitement et spectaculairement r\u00e9unis : d&rsquo;une part, il y a indiscutablement la crise psychologique, sous forme de pathologie, dont on trouve partout les traces dans les directions du bloc BAO, et qui est particuli\u00e8rement prononc\u00e9e en Isra\u00ebl, chez les Netanyahou-Barak. D&rsquo;autre part, en Isra\u00ebl mais aussi comme dans la plupart des pays du m\u00eame bloc BAO, les hyst\u00e9ries messianiques de politique ext\u00e9rieure belliciste apparaissant objectivement (tout en y voyant plus un signe de pathologie que de machiav\u00e9lisme) comme un \u00e9cran de fum\u00e9e de dissimulation et une fuite en avant \u00e0 la fois, par rapport aux crises int\u00e9rieures de tous ces pays. Ces crises int\u00e9rieures sont elles-m\u00eames les \u00e9chos nationaux de la grande crise d&rsquo;effondrement du Syst\u00e8me, et toutes ces directions psychologiquement d\u00e9rang\u00e9es sont totalement incapables, non seulement d&rsquo;y faire face, mais seulement d&rsquo;en admettre la v\u00e9rit\u00e9 et le fondement. Cette n\u00e9gation-l\u00e0 est d&rsquo;ailleurs \u00e0 la fois l&rsquo;un des traits majeurs de leur pathologie et un facteur sans cesse aggravant de cette pathologie.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 30 avril 2012 \u00e0 06H14<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>De Tel Aviv \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran, le renversement des fous D&rsquo;un c\u00f4t\u00e9, il y a des gens tr\u00e8s rationnels (selon Dagan et Gantz). Ils sont \u00e0 T\u00e9h\u00e9ran et ils dirigent l&rsquo;Iran. De l&rsquo;autre c\u00f4t\u00e9, il y a des gens dirig\u00e9s par une vision messianique, donc pas vraiment rationnels du tout, sinon, m\u00eame, affect\u00e9s d&rsquo;une psychologie gravement&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[2870,7359,3228,9636,5070,14610,5714,2773,2774,14791,14738,2790,4280,3099,7336],"class_list":["post-74678","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-attaque","tag-barak","tag-crise","tag-dagan","tag-diskin","tag-gantz","tag-haute","tag-iran","tag-israel","tag-messianisme","tag-mofaz","tag-netanyahou","tag-pathologie","tag-psychologie","tag-rationalite"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74678","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=74678"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74678\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=74678"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=74678"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=74678"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}