{"id":74868,"date":"2013-03-02T09:56:17","date_gmt":"2013-03-02T09:56:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/03\/02\/kerry-erdogan-le-sionisme-et-le-droit-detre-stupide\/"},"modified":"2013-03-02T09:56:17","modified_gmt":"2013-03-02T09:56:17","slug":"kerry-erdogan-le-sionisme-et-le-droit-detre-stupide","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/03\/02\/kerry-erdogan-le-sionisme-et-le-droit-detre-stupide\/","title":{"rendered":"Kerry, Erdogan, le sionisme et \u201cle droit d&rsquo;\u00eatre stupide\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h3 class=\"titrebloc\">Kerry, Erdogan, le sionisme et le droit d&rsquo;\u00eatre stupide<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe Premier ministre turc Erdogan, confirmant sa r\u00e9putation d&rsquo;impr\u00e9dictibilit\u00e9 (dans tous les sens, parfois heureusement antiSyst\u00e8me), a choqu\u00e9 beaucoup de monde au cur du vertueux bloc BAO, particuli\u00e8rement chez Netanyahou et \u00e0 Washington. Il faut dire qu&rsquo;il a qualifi\u00e9 le sionisme de crime contre l&rsquo;humanit\u00e9. (Voir <em>Antiwar.com<\/em> le <a href=\"http:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2013\/02\/28\/turkish-pm-sparks-israeli-fury-with-un-comments\/\" class=\"gen\">28 f\u00e9vrier 2013<\/a> : \u00ab<em>In a speech at the UN Alliance of Civilizations meeting, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan urged the international community to speak out against Islamophobia, terming it a crime against humanity and likening it to Zionism, anti-Semitism and fascism.<\/em>\u00bb)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tRencontrant Erdogan lors d&rsquo;une visite en Turquie le 1er mars, le secr\u00e9taire d&rsquo;\u00c9tat John Kerry a exprim\u00e9 publiquement ses objections devant ce jugement, l&rsquo;estimant <em>objectionable<\/em> et l&rsquo;appr\u00e9ciant m\u00eame comme une menace contre le processus de paix dans la question palestinienne (ce qui semblerait vouloir dire qu&rsquo;il y a, actuellement, un processus de paix en cours, ce qui est une nouvelle \u00e9tonnante mais rassurante). Il semble m\u00eame qu&rsquo;en priv\u00e9 l&rsquo;entretien (avec Erdogan et son ministre des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res Davutoglu), et la critique de Kerry et la riposte d&rsquo;Erdogan, aient \u00e9t\u00e9 assez violents. Jason Ditz, \u00e9galement d&rsquo;<em>Antiwar.com<\/em>, nous rapporte la chose le <a href=\"http:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2013\/03\/01\/kerry-slams-turkish-pm-for-objectionable-mention-of-zionism\/\" class=\"gen\">1er mars 2013<\/a> :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Kerry&rsquo;s comments came at a meeting with Erdogan in Ankara, and he claimed to have provided a more thorough rebuke in secret to Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, telling him the comments were a hostile act. Davutoglu reportedly told Kerry that the killings of nine Turkish aid workers by the Israeli military in 2010 was a more hostile act than an offhand comment at a UN meeting. Erdogan, visibly annoyed by Kerry&rsquo;s comments, replied through an interpreter that if his dressing down of Erdogan was so thorough there is nothing left for us to talk about.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tDitz encha\u00eene quelques r\u00e9flexions sur cette \u00e9blouissante r\u00e9ussite diplomatique de Kerry, dans ses premiers pas dans sa fonction. Ditz observe que toute critique du sionisme, \u00e0 Washington et sous les auspices de l&rsquo;AIPAC et de Netanyahou, est consid\u00e9r\u00e9e comme une sorte de sacril\u00e8ge qui vous fait relaps et vous expose \u00e0 l&rsquo;excommunication majeure. Ditz continuer en observant que cette interpr\u00e9tation d\u00e9montre qu&rsquo;on n&rsquo;a rien compris \u00e0 ce qu&rsquo;est le sionisme, tel qu&rsquo;il est interpr\u00e9t\u00e9 en Isra\u00ebl m\u00eame, dans toute la r\u00e9gion et en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral dans le reste du monde (avec des r\u00e9serves pour le bloc BAO qui a adopt\u00e9 l&rsquo;unit\u00e9 d&rsquo;intelligence et d&rsquo;ouverture d&rsquo;esprit qu&rsquo;on sait) : \u00ab<em>In Israel, and indeed across most of the planet, Zionism is by contrast referring to the specific ethno-religo-centric political philosophy the state of Israel is based upon. Most of Israel&rsquo;s political parties are explicitly Zionist, while a handful of smaller parties are explicitly anti-Zionist.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tDitz termine son commentaire en allant directement au cur du sujet : Kerry comprend-il ce dont il parle<D>? (D&rsquo;ailleurs, s&rsquo;int\u00e9resse-t-il \u00e0 la d\u00e9marche de comprendre ce dont il parle ou bien se contente-t-il d&rsquo;agir en <em>drone<\/em> de la diplomatie, actionn\u00e9 en auto-pilote ?) En d&rsquo;autres termes, il nous semble bien que Jason Ditz pose la simple question suivante : John Kerry est-il stupide,  par inadvertance, par d\u00e9sint\u00e9r\u00eat, ou bien, plus simplement et plus droitement, par nature ?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The depth of Kerry&rsquo;s understanding of all of this, let alone his beliefs on the matter, are entirely unclear from this comment or his past comments, and he may well have lashed out at the mention of Zionism based on a dubious understanding of its meaning. Conversely, it is also entirely possible Kerry&rsquo;s objection is simply a parroting of Benjamin Netanyahu&rsquo;s own anger at the comments. As an avowed Zionist himself, Netanyahu&rsquo;s comments would reflect his desire to see his discriminatory system as uniquely justifiable among such philosophies.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Kerry&rsquo;s own position vis-a-vis Israel, and indeed vis-a-vis a lot of important issues, is vague at best, and reflects on his long-standing public role as a consummate politician and speech-giver, and not an intellectual heavyweight in the Democratic Party. Though his speech-making prowess makes him ideally non-controversial as a Secretary of State, it leaves his public rebukes entirely up to chance as to whether or not he is reacting properly or even understands what he is reacting to.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPar bonheur, et comme si le Ciel veillait \u00e0 nous garder les yeux ouverts, quelques jours plus t\u00f4t (le 25 f\u00e9vrier), \u00e0 Berlin, John Kerry avait donn\u00e9 une conf\u00e9rence devant des \u00e9tudiants. Il avait m\u00e9lang\u00e9 quelques r\u00e9flexions sur la Grande R\u00e9publique, <em>America, the Beautiful<\/em>, sur les vertus civiques de son syst\u00e8me politique et ainsi de suite,  largement illustr\u00e9es, ces vertus, par la situation actuelle \u00e0 Washington,  et y ajoutant quelques souvenirs touchants du jeune \u00e9tudiant qu&rsquo;il fut, partant <em>on the road<\/em> (cyclable) en Europe, \u00e0 bicyclette, comme vous et moi. Un passage de son intervention avait retenu l&rsquo;attention de Reuters, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2013\/02\/26\/us-usa-kerry-liberties-idUSBRE91P0HJ20130226\" class=\"gen\">26 f\u00e9vrier 2013<\/a>, \u00e0 la gloire de la libert\u00e9 <em>made in USA<\/em>, qui vous donne notamment et tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment le droit d&rsquo;\u00eatre stupide.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Secretary of State John Kerry offered a defense of freedom of speech, religion and thought in the United States on Tuesday telling German students that in America you have a right to be stupid if you want to be.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>As a country, as a society, we live and breathe the idea of religious freedom and religious tolerance, whatever the religion, and political freedom and political tolerance, whatever the point of view, Kerry told the students in Berlin, the second stop on his inaugural trip as secretary of state. People have sometimes wondered about why our Supreme Court allows one group or another to march in a parade even though it&rsquo;s the most provocative thing in the world and they carry signs that are an insult to one group or another, he added. The reason is, that&rsquo;s freedom, freedom of speech. In America you have a right to be stupid &#8211; if you want to be, he said, prompting laughter. And you have a right to be disconnected to somebody else if you want to be.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa formulation de Kerry ayant \u00e9t\u00e9 litt\u00e9ralement en Am\u00e9rique vous avez le droit d&rsquo;\u00eatre stupide,  si vous voulez l&rsquo;\u00eatre, prudemment nous aurions ajout\u00e9, avec toute notre modestie europ\u00e9enne,  car la chose n&rsquo;est pas si simple que semble le croire le secr\u00e9taire d&rsquo;\u00c9tat : si vous pouvez l&rsquo;\u00eatre (si vous \u00eates dou\u00e9 pour cela). Alors, pour faire une chute, nous pourrions terminer sur une variation de cette fameuse apostrophe de Francis Blanche dans son <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0hmfXMt_pNI\" class=\"gen\">sketch<\/a> avec Pierre Dac transform\u00e9 en voyant nomm\u00e9 Sar Rabindranaduval, pour ceux qui se rappellent de ces personnages inimitables des ann\u00e9es 1960,  mais cette fois \u00e0 l&rsquo;intention de John Kerry : Il peut le faire ! Parfait citoyen am\u00e9ricaniste, <em>indeed<\/em>, malgr\u00e9 son impeccable fran\u00e7ais, John Kerry.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tQuoi qu&rsquo;il soit, toute l&rsquo;affaire va mettre \u00e0 mal aussi bien les projets de Netanyahou de se r\u00e9concilier compl\u00e8tement avec la Turquie, en envisageant des excuses un peu tardives pour les morts turcs de la <a href=\" http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-demonstration_de_l_absurde_par_l_absurde_07_06_2010.html\" class=\"gen\">flotille pour la paix<\/a> de mai 2010, que ceux d&rsquo;Obama de verrouiller le retour de la Turquie dans le bloc BAO \u00e0 l&rsquo;occasion de la crise syrienne. C&rsquo;est en effet \u00e0 ce niveau qu&rsquo;\u00e9volue la diplomatie aujourd&rsquo;hui. Elle aussi, apr\u00e8s tout et parce que la vertu am\u00e9ricaniste est \u00e9videmment universelle, a bien le droit d&rsquo;\u00eatre stupide.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 2 mars 2013 \u00e0 09H54<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kerry, Erdogan, le sionisme et le droit d&rsquo;\u00eatre stupide Le Premier ministre turc Erdogan, confirmant sa r\u00e9putation d&rsquo;impr\u00e9dictibilit\u00e9 (dans tous les sens, parfois heureusement antiSyst\u00e8me), a choqu\u00e9 beaucoup de monde au cur du vertueux bloc BAO, particuli\u00e8rement chez Netanyahou et \u00e0 Washington. Il faut dire qu&rsquo;il a qualifi\u00e9 le sionisme de crime contre l&rsquo;humanit\u00e9. 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