{"id":75066,"date":"2013-06-26T09:22:10","date_gmt":"2013-06-26T09:22:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/06\/26\/la-these-dun-complot-anti-erdogan\/"},"modified":"2013-06-26T09:22:10","modified_gmt":"2013-06-26T09:22:10","slug":"la-these-dun-complot-anti-erdogan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/06\/26\/la-these-dun-complot-anti-erdogan\/","title":{"rendered":"La th\u00e8se d&rsquo;un \u201ccomplot\u201d anti-Erdogan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h2 class=\"common-article2\">La th\u00e8se d&rsquo;un complot anti-Erdogan<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tOn sait qu&rsquo;il y a des diff\u00e9rences notables, avec parfois des positions inattendues, concernant les circonstances et les causes de la situation turque actuelle, depuis la r\u00e9volte de Taksim. On a pu lire quelques \u00e9l\u00e9ments exposant cette complexit\u00e9, notamment les <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-_insaisissable_r_silience_le_cas_erdogan_03_06_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">3 juin 2013<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-inconnaissance_d_erdogan_10_06_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">10 juin 2013<\/a> et <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-_nigme_turque_et_ours_russe_24_06_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">24 juin 2013<\/a>, sans qu&rsquo;il soit possible, de notre point de vue \u00e0 nous, de d\u00e9gager une image claire de l&rsquo;\u00e9v\u00e9nement, donc de nous prononcer de fa\u00e7on pr\u00e9cise \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard. Nous pr\u00e9sentons ici un document qui doit \u00eatre ajout\u00e9 au dossier, sans l&rsquo;estimer d\u00e9cisif mais en lui accordant une certaine importance.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl s&rsquo;agit d&rsquo;une assez longue interview (le <a href=\"http:\/\/rt.com\/op-edge\/turkey-syria-sentop-interview-157\/\" class=\"gen\">24 juin 2013<\/a>) de <em>Russia Today<\/em> de Mustafa Sentop, professeur de droit, adjoint du pr\u00e9sident du parti AKP (ou JDP selon la terminologie en anglais, pour <em>Justice and Development Party<\/em>), conseiller du Premier ministre Erdogan. C&rsquo;est donc une voix officielle du plus haut niveau, exprimant la position d&rsquo;Erdogan. Plusieurs choses m\u00e9ritent d&rsquo;\u00eatre soulign\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t D&rsquo;abord, le fait que l&rsquo;interview est donn\u00e9e \u00e0 <em>Russia Today<\/em>, m\u00e9dia russe de tr\u00e8s grande diffusion. L&rsquo;interview s&rsquo;adresse donc, notamment, \u00e0 la Russie et \u00e0 la direction russe, et les quelques mots cat\u00e9goriques qui concernent la Russie montrent que la Turquie n&rsquo;a absolument rien \u00e0 reprocher \u00e0 ce pays dans les \u00e9v\u00e9nements actuels. Cela doit \u00eatre appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 en fonction des plus r\u00e9centes nouvelles \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard (le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-_nigme_turque_et_ours_russe_24_06_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">24 juin 2013<\/a>), concernant une possible \u00e9volution de la Turquie vis-\u00e0-vis de la Syrie sous l&rsquo;influence russe, mais qui semblerait selon la tendance exprim\u00e9e dans cette interview ne pas l&rsquo;\u00eatre sous la pression mena\u00e7ante de la Russie, comme l&rsquo;affirme <em>DEBKAFiles<\/em> dans le texte cit\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Sentop parle \u00e0 plusieurs reprises des implications d&rsquo;un v\u00e9ritable complot contre Erdogan, qu&rsquo;il va jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 faire remonter \u00e0 2009. Les forces impliqu\u00e9es sont toutes des parties du bloc BAO et du Syst\u00e8me, \u00e0 savoir des int\u00e9r\u00eats capitalistiques ou financiers int\u00e9rieurs \u00e0 la Turquie, Isra\u00ebl, et \u00e9ventuellement les USA. Les m\u00e9dias du bloc BAO, essentiellement britanniques et US, mais aussi allemands, sont \u00e9galement mis en cause. Tout cela est dit bien entendu prudemment, indirectement ou par allusion, mais le sens est ind\u00e9niable. Appara\u00eet d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on claire, au travers de ces diverses citations, un constant soup\u00e7on anti-isra\u00e9lien, correspondant semble-t-il au sentiment profond d&rsquo;Erdogan malgr\u00e9 ses changements de politique.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Concernant la Syrie, Entop, tout en ne d\u00e9mentant pas l&rsquo;actuelle politique turque (anti-Assad), la d\u00e9tache de ce simple but et la pr\u00e9sente essentiellement comme une volont\u00e9 de stabilisation et d&rsquo;apaisement du pays. C&rsquo;est donc appuyer sur des principes que les Russes eux-m\u00eames proclament, mais \u00e9ventuellement consid\u00e9r\u00e9s diff\u00e9remment dans la voie pour atteindre \u00e0 leur application. En bref, le message implicite \u00e0 la Russie pourrait \u00eatre interpr\u00e9t\u00e9 de la sorte : nous avons une tactique diff\u00e9rente, mais notre strat\u00e9gie est la m\u00eame que la votre.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tVoici les extraits choisis, qui sont pr\u00e9sent\u00e9s de mani\u00e8re fractionn\u00e9e en choisissant les affirmations les plus significatives pour notre propos, o\u00f9 l&rsquo;on retrouvera les diverses appr\u00e9ciations d\u00e9taill\u00e9es ci-dessus&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>RT<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>What is the new Constitution all about? Do you have any agreement with the US on revamping it?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Entop<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>Let me first say that Turkey does not tolerate any foreign interference whatsoever, including the US, into these matters. Under no circumstances can the draft Constitution be discussed with the United States or the European Union<\/em>&#8230;\u00bb [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>RT<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>Do the events at Taksim have anything to do with the new Constitution?<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Entop<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>About three or four months ago we started receiving reports that something like that was under way. There are foreign governments directly engaged into this  we can tell that by the media coverage.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>For instance, on June 16 Kazlicesme Square saw a rally of around 1.5 million JDP supporters  one of the biggest rallies in human history. They had gathered to back the ruling party and the Prime Minister. Meanwhile, CNN covered the event, calling it an anti-government protest in Turkey. Just like the BBC, Reuters, the German media, they spread false rumors about our country. We are free to call most of these media the Israeli lobby, because they are funded by Israel. They all offer a rather one-sided, negative coverage of the events in Turkey. When 52 people were killed in Reyhanl&#305;, the CNN only briefly mentioned it in its news ticker. But when the initially peaceful events at Taksim started unfolding, the CNN gave non-stop live broadcasts from the place. It was a clearly an orchestrated scheme.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>RT<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>Is this scenario aimed at distracting Turkey&rsquo;s attention from Syria or involving it even more? Or, perhaps, there is another objective?<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Entop<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>I think there is another objective. Turkey became stronger throughout the rule of the JDP under the leadership of Recep Tayyip Erdogan. The GDP growth of Turkey is 3 per cent, and this is the result of the year&rsquo;s first quarter only. For instance, the average growth rate across Europe is negative.  So Turkey has a stable economy against the background of economic decline in a number of countries.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Another issue is that Turkey has become a strong regional player in international relations. That is why I believe that by causing turmoil and instability inside the country they were trying to make Turkey focus on its domestic affairs so that it wouldn&rsquo;t be able to participate in the settlement of the Syrian crisis. Turkey is concerned about a successful resolution of the problems in Syria, which is obvious  it is our neighbor we share our longest common border with, and in some places this border cuts across villages.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Yesterday I got a phone call from my former student who had gone to the wedding of his relatives that took place in Mardin. Part of the relatives live on the Turkish territory and they were detained by the military police while crossing the border with Syria for they didn&rsquo;t have their passports with them. I called their boss, told him about the wedding and explained the situation asking him to help. I hope they finally made it to the wedding.<\/em>  <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>So the relations between Turkey and Syria are extremely different from relations with the USA, Russia or Germany. The long frontier implies security problems. Turkey is a country that is directly affected by the Syrian problems, so we are more than others looking forward to their soonest settlement. If there is an international conference to be held on the issue  Turkey must be granted the greatest voting power.  The clashes take place right before the Geneva talks between the envoys of the UN, Russia and the USA, so they are aimed at weakening the positions of Turkey.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>RT<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<MI>In this case, since you know Russia participates in the talks and has a different viewpoint on the Syrian problem as compared to the West, do you consider it as one of the instigators?>D>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Entop<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>No, we don&rsquo;t think Russia has a hand in the Taksim unrest.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>RT<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>Then who are the instigators in your opinion?<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Entop<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>External forces have their branches inside Turkey. The growth and stabilization of the Turkish economy had a negative impact on those groups that had raised money on high interest rates on the national debt. Financial speculators are no longer able to make mega-profits. In 2002 they gave us loans at 63 per cent. Since then, we&rsquo;ve pulled down interest rates to 4.6 per cent in May 2013.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>If we had continued taking money at those high rates, we would have paid this interest-rate lobby some 642 extra billion dollars. Thanks to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, that money was invested and not given away for paying the interest rates. Surely, there are some groups that can&rsquo;t earn as much as they used to, so they are dissatisfied with the JDP&rsquo;s and Erdogan&rsquo;s course.<\/em>\u00bb [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>RT<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>What&rsquo;s the difference between the situation of Turkey and that of the Arab countries?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Entop<\/em><\/strong>: [&#8230;] \u00ab<em>&#8230;This way we can see that campaigns have been organized by those domestic and international circles that aren&rsquo;t happy with the JDP policies and with the fact that Turkey&rsquo;s growing stronger. We have the corresponding documents which will be presented in court.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>RT<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>What documents do you have?<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Entop<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>We have information about those who provoked and organized these protests, and provided logistics, funds and other resources.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>As an example, New York Times published an ad on protests. A campaign was organized to pay for it, and $40.000 out of $100.000 was covered by Rafagen, a US pharmaceutical company of Israeli origin. This information was found in open sources. The documents we have will be made public in the near future&#8230;<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<p class=\"signature\"><em>dedefensa.org<\/em><\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La th\u00e8se d&rsquo;un complot anti-Erdogan On sait qu&rsquo;il y a des diff\u00e9rences notables, avec parfois des positions inattendues, concernant les circonstances et les causes de la situation turque actuelle, depuis la r\u00e9volte de Taksim. On a pu lire quelques \u00e9l\u00e9ments exposant cette complexit\u00e9, notamment les 3 juin 2013, 10 juin 2013 et 24 juin 2013,&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[4926,3737,2774,3856,11448,12258,12199,6925,2613],"class_list":["post-75066","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ouverture-libre","tag-complot","tag-erdogan","tag-israel","tag-revolte","tag-russia","tag-sentop","tag-taksim","tag-today","tag-turquie"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75066","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75066"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75066\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75066"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75066"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75066"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}