{"id":75067,"date":"2013-06-26T16:00:37","date_gmt":"2013-06-26T16:00:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/06\/26\/snowden-greenwald-chronique-du-whistleblower-et-de-son-messager\/"},"modified":"2013-06-26T16:00:37","modified_gmt":"2013-06-26T16:00:37","slug":"snowden-greenwald-chronique-du-whistleblower-et-de-son-messager","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/06\/26\/snowden-greenwald-chronique-du-whistleblower-et-de-son-messager\/","title":{"rendered":"Snowden-Greenwald : chronique du <em>whistleblower<\/em> et de son messager"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h2 class=\"common-article2\">Snowden-Greenwald : chronique du <em>whistleblower<\/em> et de son messager<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tUn des aspects tr\u00e8s sp\u00e9cifiques de l&rsquo;affaire NSA\/Snowden devenue crise, c&rsquo;est le r\u00f4le tr\u00e8s important jou\u00e9 par le journaliste qui organise et relaie la publication des informations du <em>whistleblower<\/em> de la NSA. On y verra encore une erreur relevant de l&rsquo;habituelle <em>overreaction<\/em> du Syst\u00e8me et, par cons\u00e9quent, de ses divers employ\u00e9s-Syst\u00e8me, qui ont impliqu\u00e9 le messager en m\u00eame temps que le message. (On sait que Greenwald est l&rsquo;objet de diverses attaques de la part de coll\u00e8gues journalistes, sugg\u00e9rant que lui-m\u00eame devrait \u00e9ventuellement \u00eatre consid\u00e9r\u00e9 comme presque aussi coupable que Snowden apr\u00e8s tout [voir ce <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-dedefensaorg_que_sont_tes_lecteurs_devenus__26_06_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">26 juin 2013<\/a>].) Cet aspect presque \u00e9motif du Syst\u00e8me, dans le chef d&rsquo;une psychologie qui lui est propre, \u00e9cras\u00e9e par une <em>hybris<\/em> \u00e9pouvantable, lui fait c\u00e9der devant ses pouss\u00e9es de col\u00e8re et de fureur lorsqu&rsquo;il est tenu en \u00e9chec, surtout de fa\u00e7on visible et sensationnelle, et le conduit \u00e0 des fautes co\u00fbteuses,  pour celles-ci, \u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9 du grec <em>hybris<\/em> et comme un compl\u00e9ment, la CIA a le mot <em>blowback<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl s&rsquo;ensuit que Greenwald est devenu partie prenante dans la crise NSA\/Snowden, sans pour autant se compromettre, simplement par les actions-r\u00e9actions du personnel-Syst\u00e8me. Greenwald devient donc une source exceptionnelle, au m\u00eame titre que Snowden, ce qui diversifie l&rsquo;attention, multiplie l&rsquo;information, implique toute une fili\u00e8re journalistique disposant d&rsquo;une bonne r\u00e9putation-Syst\u00e8me (le <em>Guardian<\/em>). Cela contribue \u00e0 faire encore grossir l&rsquo;affaire, \u00e0 aggraver la crise. Dans le cas qui nous occupe, cela conduit \u00e0 pousser un journaliste tr\u00e8s critique, certes, de psychologie activement antiSyst\u00e8me, sans doute, dans un domaine de quasi-r\u00e9sistance ouverte sans pourtant qu&rsquo;il perde son statut officiel. Le r\u00e9sultat est, comme on en a esquiss\u00e9 l&rsquo;id\u00e9e le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-le_premier_cercle_du_syst_me_21_06_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">21 juin 2013<\/a>, d&rsquo;\u00e9largir le domaine antiSyst\u00e8me en mordant largement sur des champs qui \u00e9taient clairement identifi\u00e9s au Syst\u00e8me.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tGreenwald est donc presque aussi sollicit\u00e9 que Snowden, avec la diff\u00e9rence qu&rsquo;il peut r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 ces sollicitations en toute (relative) tranquillit\u00e9. Dans cette interview de <em>The Daily Beast<\/em> du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedailybeast.com\/articles\/2013\/06\/25\/greenwald-snowden-s-files-are-out-there-if-anything-happens-to-him.html\" class=\"gen\">25 juin 2013<\/a>, il explique divers aspects techniques et humains de sa collaboration avec Snowden, les pr\u00e9cautions diverses qu&rsquo;a prises Snowden, celles que lui-m\u00eame a prises, etc. On apprend ainsi que Snowden a distribu\u00e9 un certain nombre de copies des documents qu&rsquo;il poss\u00e8de, qui sont d&rsquo;un nombre et d&rsquo;une importance consid\u00e9rables, et que les personnes auraient acc\u00e8s au processus de leur desencryptage, avec les mots de passe ad\u00e9quats, en cas de malheur comme l&rsquo;on dit. Snowden a donc diffus\u00e9 la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 des attaques contre lui en multipliant hors de lui-m\u00eame les points d&rsquo;exploitation de ses informations de et sur la NSA. La fureur du Syst\u00e8me n&rsquo;est pas pr\u00eate de s&rsquo;apaiser, mais l&rsquo;efficacit\u00e9 de la m\u00e9thode Snowden est d\u00e9sormais install\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tVoici quelques extraits de l&rsquo;interview de <em>The Daily Beast<\/em>&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>As the U.S. government presses Moscow to extradite former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, America&rsquo;s most wanted leaker has a plan B. The former NSA systems administrator has already given encoded files containing an archive of the secrets he lifted from his old employer to several people. If anything happens to Snowden, the files will be unlocked.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian journalist who Snowden first contacted in February, told The Daily Beast on Tuesday that Snowden has taken extreme precautions to make sure many different people around the world have these archives to insure the stories will inevitably be published. Greenwald added that the people in possession of these files cannot access them yet because they are highly encrypted and they do not have the passwords. But, Greenwald said, if anything happens at all to Edward Snowden, he told me he has arranged for them to get access to the full archives.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The fact that Snowden has made digital copies of the documents he accessed while working at the NSA poses a new challenge to the U.S. intelligence community that has scrambled in recent days to recover them and assess the full damage of the breach. Even if U.S. authorities catch up with Snowden and the four classified laptops the Guardian reported he brought with him to Hong Kong the secrets Snowden hopes to expose will still likely be published.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>A former U.S. counterintelligence officer following the Snowden saga closely said his contacts inside the U.S. intelligence community think Snowden has been planning this for years and has stashed files all over the Internet. This source added, At this point there is very little anyone can do about this.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>The arrangement to entrust encrypted archives of his files with others also sheds light on a cryptic statement Snowden made on June 17 during a live chat with The Guardian. In the online session he said, All I can say right now is the U.S. government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.<\/em> [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Greenwald said that he himself has thousands of documents from Snowden that he is continuing to examine. That figure is considerably higher than the 200 documents that Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee, said over the weekend that she was told Snowden possessed. I don&rsquo;t know for sure whether [Snowden] has more documents than the ones he has given me, Greenwald said. I believe he does. He was clear he did not want to give to journalists things he did not think should be published.<\/em> [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Greenwald said he would not have published some of the stories that ran in the South China Morning Post. Whether I would have disclosed the specific IP addresses in China and Hong Kong the NSA is hacking, I don&rsquo;t think I would have, Greenwald said. What motivated that leak though was a need to ingratiate himself to the people of Hong Kong and China.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>However, Greenwald said that in his dealings with Snowden the 30-year-old systems administrator was adamant that he and his newspaper go through the document and only publish what served the public&rsquo;s right to know. Snowden himself was vehement from the start that we do engage in that journalistic process and we not gratuitously publish things, Greenwald said. I do know he was vehement about that. He was not trying to harm the U.S. government; he was trying to shine light on it.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Greenwald said Snowden for example did not wish to publicize information that gave the technical specifications or blueprints for how the NSA constructed its eavesdropping network. He is worried that would enable other states to enhance their security systems and monitor their own citizens. Greenwald also said Snowden did not wish to repeat the kinds of disclosures made famous a generation ago by former CIA spy, Philip Ageewho published information after defecting to Cuba that outed undercover CIA officers. He was very insistent he does not want to publish documents to harm individuals or blow anyone&rsquo;s undercover status, Greenwald said. He added that Snowden told him, Leaking CIA documents can actually harm people, whereas leaking NSA documents can harm systems.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Greenwald also said his newspaper had no plans to publish the technical specifications of NSA systems. I do not want to help other states get better at surveillance, Greenwald said. He added, We won&rsquo;t publish things that might ruin ongoing operations from the U.S. government that very few people would object to the United States doing.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>In this sense Greenwald is applying a more traditional journalistic approach to publishing classified information than WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization that published hundreds of thousands of sensitive diplomatic cables and intelligence reports from Afghanistan and Iraqinitially without removing the names of individuals who were placed at risk after their interactions with U.S. officials in dangerous places were made public. I am supportive of WikiLeaks, but I am doing something different, Greenwald said.<\/em> [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>For now, Greenwald said he is taking extra precautions against the prospect that he is a target of U.S. surveillance. He said he began using encrypted email when he began communicating with Snowden in February after Snowden sent him a YouTube video walking him through the procedure to encrypt his email.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>When I was in Hong Kong, I spoke to my partner in Rio via Skype and told him I would send an electronic encrypted copy of the documents, Greenwald said. I did not end up doing it. Two days later his laptop was stolen from our house and nothing else was taken. Nothing like that has happened before. I am not saying it&rsquo;s connected to this, but obviously the possibility exists. When asked if Greenwald believed his computer was being monitored by the U.S. government. I would be shocked if the U.S. government were not trying to access the information on my computer. I carry my computers and data with me everywhere I go.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p>\n<p class=\"signature\"><em>dedefensa.org<\/em><\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Snowden-Greenwald : chronique du whistleblower et de son messager Un des aspects tr\u00e8s sp\u00e9cifiques de l&rsquo;affaire NSA\/Snowden devenue crise, c&rsquo;est le r\u00f4le tr\u00e8s important jou\u00e9 par le journaliste qui organise et relaie la publication des informations du whistleblower de la NSA. On y verra encore une erreur relevant de l&rsquo;habituelle overreaction du Syst\u00e8me et, par&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[12259,3617,6944,12224,3050,12160],"class_list":["post-75067","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ouverture-libre","tag-beast","tag-daily","tag-greenwald","tag-snowden","tag-the","tag-whistleblower"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75067","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75067"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75067\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75067"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75067"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75067"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}