{"id":75089,"date":"2013-07-09T14:30:05","date_gmt":"2013-07-09T14:30:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/07\/09\/lamerique-du-sud-continent-snowden\/"},"modified":"2013-07-09T14:30:05","modified_gmt":"2013-07-09T14:30:05","slug":"lamerique-du-sud-continent-snowden","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/07\/09\/lamerique-du-sud-continent-snowden\/","title":{"rendered":"L&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique du Sud, continent-Snowden"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h3 class=\"titrebloc\">L&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique du Sud, continent-Snowden<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique du Sud est manifestement le point sensible de la crise-Snowden, le centre de fusion o\u00f9 l&rsquo;\u00e9volution politique par rapport \u00e0 cette crise est la plus forte, la plus profonde, et par cons\u00e9quent la plus active au niveau de la communication. L&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique du Sud est le foyer principal par quoi la crise-Snowden ne cesse de se renforcer et de se d\u00e9velopper structurellement, d\u00e9sormais install\u00e9e dans l&rsquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notes_sur_notre_kosmos_crisique__27_03_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">infrastructure<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-glossairedde_le_facteur_crisique__30_04_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">crisique<\/a>. (Trois pays ont jusqu&rsquo;ici accept\u00e9 la demande d&rsquo;asile de Snowden, selon des conditions peut-\u00eatre diff\u00e9rentes : le Nicaragua, le Venezuela, la Bolivie.) On retient deux \u00e9l\u00e9ments qui ont trait avec la crise-Snowden.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t La situation au Br\u00e9sil a \u00e9t\u00e9 largement modifi\u00e9e \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard par l&rsquo;article d&rsquo;<em>O Globo<\/em>, dont nous avons d\u00e9j\u00e0 parl\u00e9 le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-l_empire_du_blowback_08_07_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">8 juillet 2013<\/a>. Glenn Greenwald, qui en est le co-auteur, nous en dit quelques mots le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/commentisfree\/2013\/jul\/08\/snowden-video-whistleblowing-brazil-rousseff\" class=\"gen\">8 juillet 2013<\/a> dans sa rubrique r\u00e9guli\u00e8re du <em>Guardian<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>As for the revelations I wrote about yesterday regarding mass, indiscriminate NSA surveillance of millions of Brazilian citizens, the fallout in Brazil is substantial and growing. The New York Times this morning has a good summary of the rising anger among the citizenry and political class over these revelations. The most influential television program in the country, Fantastico, did an excellent investigative segment last night really highlighting why this is such a significant scandal; it includes the country&rsquo;s Communications Minister conveying that President Dilma Rousseff reacted with \u00ab\u00a0indignation\u00a0\u00bb to the story and vowing criminal investigations (the segment can be seen here). Senators are scheduling formal investigative hearings and calling for international action.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;article du New York <em>Times<\/em> signal\u00e9 par Snowden est du <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/07\/08\/world\/americas\/brazil-voices-deep-concern-over-gathering-of-data-by-us.html\" class=\"gen\">8 juillet 2013<\/a> \u00e9galement et d\u00e9taille les r\u00e9actions du gouvernement br\u00e9silien. La pr\u00e9sidente br\u00e9silienne, bien qu&rsquo;ayant d&rsquo;abord r\u00e9agi avec vigueur \u00e0 l&rsquo;aspect sud-am\u00e9ricain de la crise-Snowden (l&rsquo;\u00e9quip\u00e9e de pr\u00e9sident Morales dans son avion, dans le ciel europ\u00e9en), avait observ\u00e9 une position plus en retrait que celle du groupe des pays les plus radicaux. Les r\u00e9v\u00e9lations de <em>O Globo<\/em> devraient \u00e9videmment modifier cette position.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The international tensions stirred up by recent revelations about American spying spread to yet another nation on Sunday, when Brazil&rsquo;s foreign minister expressed deep concern over the issue and said his government would press the United Nations to take action that preserves the sovereignty of all countries.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Reacting to a local news report asserting that the United States has been collecting data on telephone calls and e-mail traffic in Brazil, the foreign minister, Antonio Patriota, said Sunday that his government would pursue United Nations measures to impede abuses and protect the privacy of international Internet communications to guarantee cybersecurity that protects the rights of citizens. Mr. Patriota said that his government was taking action because of its deep concern at the report that electronic and telephone communications of Brazilian citizens are being the object of espionage by organs of American intelligence. For the same reason, he added, Brazil has also asked for clarifications from the American government.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t L&rsquo;\u00e9quip\u00e9e de Morales dans les cieux europ\u00e9ens, justement, est l&rsquo;objet d&rsquo;une interview du pr\u00e9sident bolivien dans <em>Russia Today<\/em>, ce <a href=\"http:\/\/rt.com\/news\/morales-snowden-rt-interview-760\/\" class=\"gen\">8 juillet 2013<\/a>. Morales raconte certaines des conditions du vol, de son escale forc\u00e9e \u00e0 Vienne, etc. Il annonce \u00e9galement qu&rsquo;il veut obtenir des explications des pays europ\u00e9ens qui se sont signal\u00e9s par l&rsquo;interdiction de leurs espaces a\u00e9riens.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tPoint int\u00e9ressant : dans le cours de l&rsquo;interview, Morales r\u00e9v\u00e8le que les USA avaient transmis une demande d&rsquo;extradition de Snowden \u00e0 la Bolivie deux ou trois heures apr\u00e8s que son avion se soit pos\u00e9 \u00e0 Vienne,  dans une occurrence qui \u00e9l\u00e8ve la co\u00efncidence au rang des beaux-arts. Nous sommes donc convi\u00e9s \u00e0 faire l&rsquo;hypoth\u00e8se \u00e0 multiple encha\u00eenement, 1) que les USA \u00e9taient certains, selon leurs informations exclusives, que Snowden se trouvait \u00e0 bord de l&rsquo;avion de Morales (bravo pour la CIA + la NSA, pour leurs infos exclusives) ; 2) qu&rsquo;ils avaient demand\u00e9 \u00e0 la Bolivie son extradition au cas o\u00f9 Morales passerait sans encombre le rideau des pays europ\u00e9ens et souverains lui interdisant leurs espaces a\u00e9riens ; 3) qu&rsquo;ils \u00e9taient donc au courant de ces dispositions d&rsquo;interdiction de leurs espaces a\u00e9riens par ces pays europ\u00e9ens ; 4) qu&rsquo;ils \u00e9taient au courant,  cela \u00e9tant suppos\u00e9 pour saluer leur esprit d&rsquo;initiative et leur sens de l&rsquo;organisation,  simplement parce qu&rsquo;ils \u00e9taient les initiateurs imp\u00e9ratifs de la mesure  ; enfin 5) qu&rsquo;ils se sont av\u00e9r\u00e9s suffisamment rapides pour n&rsquo;avoir pas fait parvenir, en derni\u00e8re minute, l&rsquo;avertissement au d\u00e9partement d&rsquo;\u00c9tat de prudemment suspendre la demande d&rsquo;extradition pour ne pas trop se d\u00e9couvrir, puisqu&rsquo;ils devaient savoir depuis quelques heures que Snowden avait bel et bien, \u00e0 Moscou, rat\u00e9 son avion pour La Paz, via Vienne et les espaces a\u00e9riens europ\u00e9ens interdits.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tRien de fondamentalement nouveau sous le soleil de juillet, mais un peu plus de lumi\u00e8re sur les pratiques des divers figurants-Syst\u00e8me du bloc BAO, sur la brutalit\u00e9 et l&rsquo;habilet\u00e9 US, sur la servilit\u00e9 europ\u00e9enne et ainsi de suite. On admirera, dans cette interview, que le malheureux Morales aient encore entretenu, avant l&rsquo;incident, quelques illusions sur la capacit\u00e9 \u00e0 pr\u00e9server leur ind\u00e9pendance de ces pays europ\u00e9ens ; mais soyons beaux joueurs : nous aussi, nous avons tout de m\u00eame \u00e9t\u00e9 surpris par cette formidable capacit\u00e9 europ\u00e9enne, et surtout fran\u00e7aise ne le dissimulons pas, \u00e0 rendre compte avec une rigueur exemplaire et une telle rapidit\u00e9 de l&rsquo;existence de cette <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-qui_dit_qu_il_y_a_pas_d_europe_et_celle_de_l_infamie__03_07_2013.html\" class=\"gen\">Europe-l\u00e0<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>Bolivian President Evo Morales has threatened measures against European countries in response to the grounding of his plane in Vienna last week, demanding they reveal the source of false information that Edward Snowden was on board. We are expecting European countries that forced me to land to explain what made them think I was transporting the fugitive US citizen. Where did this information come from, and why are they breaking international laws? If we in South America are not given that explanation, we will have to take measures, the socialist politician said during an interview with RT in La Paz.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Morales blamed Washington for masterminding the audacious scheme. At 3 or 4 pm we are forced to land the plane in Austria. At 6 pm the US ambassador delivers an extradition request in Bolivia, which is proof that is the work of the US, who used European countries for their aims, said Morales. My first thought when I was forced to land was: how can European countries obey the will of the US? I imagined these nations were defenders of democracy.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Morales confirmed that officials did not attempt to search the French-made Dassault jet, which would have been illegal under diplomatic conventions, but still attempted to find their way on-board. I said to the airport officials, You can&rsquo;t search the President&rsquo;s plane. They said We can&rsquo;t unless you invite us for a cup of coffee&rsquo;. They wanted me to invite them for coffee! recalled a still-seething Morales.<\/em> [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>We have had enough humiliation at the hands of the Americans. I am not scared of shutting the US embassy in Bolivia, he said. Morales claims the incident reflects a neo-colonial attitude to his entire continent. It is a crime not against Evo Morales, but against the people of South America and the Caribbean. It is utter discrimination, said Morales, who insisted no one should be treated as a second-rate president. The Europeans and Americans think that we are living in the era of empires and colonies. They are wrong. We are free people. They think that by intervening in our affairs, staging coups, installing neoliberals or military dictatorships they can suck out our resources. But this is in the past, they can no longer do this.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 9 juillet 2013 \u00e0 14H29<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique du Sud, continent-Snowden L&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique du Sud est manifestement le point sensible de la crise-Snowden, le centre de fusion o\u00f9 l&rsquo;\u00e9volution politique par rapport \u00e0 cette crise est la plus forte, la plus profonde, et par cons\u00e9quent la plus active au niveau de la communication. L&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique du Sud est le foyer principal par quoi la&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[4994,3677,3104,12276,6944,4901,3871,12224,5164],"class_list":["post-75089","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-bolivie","tag-bresil","tag-cia","tag-globo","tag-greenwald","tag-morales","tag-nsa","tag-snowden","tag-vienne"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75089","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75089"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75089\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75089"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75089"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75089"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}