{"id":75231,"date":"2013-09-30T07:17:39","date_gmt":"2013-09-30T07:17:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/09\/30\/perspectives-iraniennes-a-la-lumiere-de-washington-blocage\/"},"modified":"2013-09-30T07:17:39","modified_gmt":"2013-09-30T07:17:39","slug":"perspectives-iraniennes-a-la-lumiere-de-washington-blocage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2013\/09\/30\/perspectives-iraniennes-a-la-lumiere-de-washington-blocage\/","title":{"rendered":"Perspectives iraniennes, \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de Washington-blocage"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h3 class=\"titrebloc\">Perspectives iraniennes, \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de Washington-blocage<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tL&rsquo;Iran int\u00e9resse-t-il Washington ? Nous avancerions \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard que la folle semaine onusienne, qui se poursuit cahin-caha par d&rsquo;autres interventions, est nettement rel\u00e9gu\u00e9e par le fait du jour. A Washington, le fait du jour, c&rsquo;est <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mcclatchydc.com\/2013\/09\/29\/203576\/dc-takes-day-off-from-budget-works.html#.UkknWeA32ew\" class=\"gen\">le blocage<\/a> annonc\u00e9 du fonctionnement de gouvernement de la plus grande puissance \u00e0 l&rsquo;exceptionnalisme av\u00e9r\u00e9 que la terre ait jamais port\u00e9e, ou support\u00e9e c&rsquo;est selon ; cela, du fait des p\u00e9rip\u00e9ties d&rsquo;un pouvoir prot\u00e9iforme enferm\u00e9 dans des querelles disons de bas-empire, pour \u00eatre aimable et flatteur dans le chef de l&rsquo;analogie impliqu\u00e9e. A moins d&rsquo;un accord-miracle de derni\u00e8re seconde, il en sera ainsi \u00e0 partir de demain 1er octobre, et le gouvernement de la susdite plus grande puissance exceptionnelle mettra grand nombre parmi la multitude de ses fonctionnaires dans une sorte de ch\u00f4mage technique, par absence de tr\u00e9sorerie. C&rsquo;est le dernier avatar en date de la guerre sans fin entre les composants du pouvoir washingtonien,  alors, hein, les relations entre les USA et l&rsquo;Iran&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tCela n&#8217;emp\u00eache pas les gens s\u00e9rieux et ent\u00eat\u00e9s de pr\u00e9senter leurs premi\u00e8res r\u00e9flexions sur la visite du nouveau pr\u00e9sident iranien \u00e0 New York, pour la s\u00e9ance onusienne annuelle, et les diverses p\u00e9rip\u00e9ties spectaculaires qui l&rsquo;ont accompagn\u00e9e. Nous avons choisi deux r\u00e9actions, l&rsquo;une d&rsquo;un des tr\u00e8s rares analystes US s\u00e9rieux sur la question des relations entre l&rsquo;Iran et les USA, l&rsquo;autre d&rsquo;un professeur iranien de l&rsquo;universit\u00e9 de T\u00e9h\u00e9ran, sp\u00e9cialiste des relations internationales. Ces r\u00e9actions sont similaires et se r\u00e9sument \u00e0 une phrase lapidaire en forme de lapalissade : tout reste \u00e0 faire puisque rien n&rsquo;est fait&#8230; <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t L&rsquo;analyste US, c&rsquo;est Flynt Leverett, du couple Leverett que nous consultons souvent. Il parlait lors de l&rsquo;\u00e9mission <em>Newshour<\/em> de la station PBS. (Voir l&rsquo;\u00e9mission sur <em>Youtube<\/em>, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Imue3qmREEE\" class=\"gen\">28 septembre 2013<\/a>.) Une tr\u00e8s rapide transcription de son intervention est publi\u00e9e sur le site <em>GoingToTeheran.com<\/em> des Leverett, le <a href=\"http:\/\/goingtotehran.com\/after-rohanis-visit-to-new-york-flynt-leverett-on-prospects-for-u-s-iranian-nuclear-diplomacy\" class=\"gen\">29 septembre 2013<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>In the wake of President Rohani&rsquo;s visit to New York for the United Nations General Assembly, much of the American commentariat (including one of Flynt&rsquo;s co-panelists on the Newshour) is asking how much the Islamic Republic will be prepared to concedeor, more bluntly, surrenderin nuclear talks.  But, as we have noted before, this is mistaken and self-deluding view.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>As Flynt points out on the Newshour, the core idea animating President Rohani&rsquo;s approach to nuclear diplomacyrecognition of Iran&rsquo;s nuclear rights, as a sovereign state and as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (including the right to enrich uranium under international safeguards) in exchange for greater transparency surrounding the Islamic Republic&rsquo;s nuclear activitiesis not new.  It has, in fact, been on the table from the Iranian side for years; Supreme Leader Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei publicly endorsed it well be Rohani was elected.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Rohani and Zarif are perhaps prepared to be more proactive in defining what greater transparency on Iran&rsquo;s nuclear activities would mean, in practical terms.  But, as they themselves have made abundantly clear, they are not there to surrender Iran&rsquo;s nuclear rights. Thus, the real question is: Is the Obama administration prepared to do a nuclear deal with the Islamic Republic predicated on a recognition of Iran&rsquo;s right to safeguarded enrichmentand to face down opposition to such a deal<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t Du c\u00f4t\u00e9 iranien, on retient l&rsquo;interview du professeur Mohammad Marandi, de l&rsquo;universit\u00e9 de T\u00e9h\u00e9ran, retranscrite pour l&rsquo;essentiel sur <em>PressTV.ir<\/em>, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.presstv.ir\/detail\/2013\/09\/29\/326766\/iran-putting-us-to-test-analyst\/\" class=\"gen\">29 septembre 2013<\/a>. On observera que Marandi parle de la volont\u00e9 politique qui serait n\u00e9cessaire \u00e0 Washington pour accepter la r\u00e9alit\u00e9 objective des droits de l&rsquo;Iran, ce qui revient \u00e0 accepter le fait de la souverainet\u00e9 de l&rsquo;Iran. Il s&rsquo;agit de la m\u00eame id\u00e9e qu&rsquo;on retrouve chez Leverett et, en g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, chez le couple Leverett qui plaide le m\u00eame argument depuis plusieurs ann\u00e9es. L&rsquo;\u00e9vidence de l&rsquo;argument de ces propos nous dispense d&rsquo;en discuter longuement.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Press TV<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>A lot of people over the past few days and hours have been speaking about this historic first direct contact between the presidents of Iran and the United States after three decades. But are you seeing this as that initial first step that is going to actually help resolve all that&rsquo;s being called mistrust between the two sides?<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Mohammad Marandi<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>Well, it is possible although it seems that in the United States as we speak the mood is still that somehow it&rsquo;s the Iranians that must give concessions whereas I think President Rouhani has said on numerous occasions already and so has the Iranian Foreign Minister that the nuclear program; Iran&rsquo;s nuclear rights including enrichment, are not up for grabs. So, the Iranians won&rsquo;t accept for example, caps, or to dismantle any part of the nuclear program. There is a possibility, but I think there&rsquo;s a long way to go and it&rsquo;s quite possible that at the end of the day in the coming years the United States simply does not have the political will to accept Iran&rsquo;s rights.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>But what has happened I think at this stage is that Iran has taken the excuse away from the United States. In the past the United States continuously took a confrontational approach towards Iran and basically accused Iran of being aggressive. Now we have a new president  a new tactic is being used by this president; a new approach has been developed by this president and Americans can no longer easily demonize the president and use that as an excuse to block a solution.<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Press TV<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>We did hear the US Secretary of State John Kerry saying that sanctions could be lifted  those sanctions that have been imposed by the United States unilaterally; and the President Barack Obama that I&rsquo;ve talked to John Kerry and a special team to negotiate the nuclear issue and to resolve the nuclear issue.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>But you pointed there to the key factor of concessions. Do you think that the United States knows that Iran is not going to stop uranium enrichment and with that fact in mind it&rsquo;s saying it&rsquo;s going to lift sanctions and it&rsquo;s going to get the issue resolved? Or do you think it is what a lot of other people are saying is that this cannot happen without Iran giving those concessions, which could include stopping uranium enrichment?<\/em>\u00bb <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t<strong><em>Mohammad Marandi<\/em><\/strong>: \u00ab<em>If you look at today&rsquo;s New York Times, you see that as reflective of the mood of policy makers, you still see that mentality where the United States is saying, well, President Rouhani came to New York and said some nice things, but how much is he willing to concede? And I think the idea of Iran conceding is very different from the idea of Iran retaining its sovereignty, but having flexibility at the negotiating table  those are two completely different things. President Rouhani will not concede Iran&rsquo;s parliament or Iranians nuclear program and the United States has to accept that.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>In addition, when Kerry said that sanctions can be moved, he does fail to explain how because these sanctions have been passed into law by Congress, by 500:0 in some cases, and these laws basically, they&rsquo;re not just linked to the nuclear program. Iran has to cut off links with allies like Hezbollah and other organizations; Iran has to do away with its laws and basically become a secular state for these sanctions to be lifted in accordance with American law  I&rsquo;ve read these laws so it&rsquo;s very clear. So, Congress would have to remove these sanctions and is this Congress willing to do so? These are serious issues.<\/em> <\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>I think an important thing is that Iran is putting the United States to the test. And even if the United States fails in recognizing Iran and its rights, the international community will isolate the United States further and it will be much more difficult for the United States to maintain pressure on Iran.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl s&rsquo;agit donc d&rsquo;une rapide mise au net de la situation apr\u00e8s la visite de Rouhani, et la confirmation que Rouhani est une figure politique mod\u00e9r\u00e9e, attentive \u00e0 pr\u00e9senter cet aspect de sa personnalit\u00e9. Sur le fond des choses, qui est principiel puisqu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit de la souverainet\u00e9 de l&rsquo;Iran, rien n&rsquo;est chang\u00e9 puisque rien ne peut \u00eatre chang\u00e9 \u00e0 un principe aussi fondamental sinon \u00e0 admettre que l&rsquo;Iran n&rsquo;est plus l&rsquo;Iran en tant que nation souveraine.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tIl est vrai, comme le note surtout Marandi, que la situation a \u00e9volu\u00e9e en termes de communication, et qu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit sans aucun doute d&rsquo;un avantage marqu\u00e9 pour l&rsquo;Iran. Une personnalit\u00e9 mod\u00e9r\u00e9e comme Rouhani ne peut \u00eatre diabolis\u00e9e ais\u00e9ment, comme le fut Ahmadinejad dont la personnalit\u00e9 pr\u00eatait ais\u00e9ment le flanc \u00e0 une telle manuvre de communication. Ce n&rsquo;est pas un mince r\u00e9sultat puisque la rh\u00e9torique de la diabolisation a constitu\u00e9 le fond principal et l&rsquo;argument \u00e9crasant de la politique du bloc BAO pendant des ann\u00e9es. La futilit\u00e9 du fait n&#8217;emp\u00eache nullement le fait d&rsquo;\u00eatre \u00e9crasant, dans une \u00e9poque o\u00f9 la politique rel\u00e8ve de la futilit\u00e9 et o\u00f9 la communication est la principale force \u00e0 se manifester dans les relations internationales.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 30 septembre 2013 \u00e0 07H15<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Perspectives iraniennes, \u00e0 la lumi\u00e8re de Washington-blocage L&rsquo;Iran int\u00e9resse-t-il Washington ? Nous avancerions \u00e0 cet \u00e9gard que la folle semaine onusienne, qui se poursuit cahin-caha par d&rsquo;autres interventions, est nettement rel\u00e9gu\u00e9e par le fait du jour. A Washington, le fait du jour, c&rsquo;est le blocage annonc\u00e9 du fonctionnement de gouvernement de la plus grande puissance&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[4616,2773,6463,12443,3004,3478,12241,2746,3248],"class_list":["post-75231","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloc-notes","tag-blocage","tag-iran","tag-leverett","tag-marandi","tag-nucleaire","tag-onu","tag-rouhani","tag-souverainete","tag-washington"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75231","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75231"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75231\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75231"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75231"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75231"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}