{"id":75611,"date":"2014-11-19T06:46:12","date_gmt":"2014-11-19T06:46:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2014\/11\/19\/biden-nuland-tambours-de-guerre-a-kiev\/"},"modified":"2014-11-19T06:46:12","modified_gmt":"2014-11-19T06:46:12","slug":"biden-nuland-tambours-de-guerre-a-kiev","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2014\/11\/19\/biden-nuland-tambours-de-guerre-a-kiev\/","title":{"rendered":"Biden-Nuland, tambours de guerre \u00e0 Kiev"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h2 class=\"titleset_b.deepblue\" style=\"color:#0f3955;font-size:1.65em;font-variant:small-caps;\">Biden-Nuland, tambours de guerre \u00e0 Kiev<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>Chaque fois que Nuland se rend \u00e0 Kiev (voir le <a class=\"gen\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article\/nuland-est-de-retour-a-kiev\">7 octobre 2014<\/a>), l&rsquo;alarme retentit. Cette fois, l&rsquo;alarme est \u00e0 la fois double et plus pressante, puisqu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agissait au d\u00e9part d&rsquo;une visite du vice-pr\u00e9sident Bide, \u00e0 laquelle Nuland s&rsquo;est jointe en derni\u00e8re minute. Biden-Nuland, deux incendiaires confirm\u00e9s, notamment et particuli\u00e8rement dans la crise ukrainienne. Le programme officiel concerne l&rsquo;examen du respect par la Russie des accords de Minsk (le respect par Kiev de l&rsquo;accord n&rsquo;ayant pas besoin d&rsquo;\u00eatre examin\u00e9 puisqu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agit du principe fondateur de tout jugement), &ndash; et, accessoirement, les r\u00e9formes de l&rsquo;actuel gouvernement de Kiev. <em>Sputnik<\/em> rapporte la nouvelle, le <a class=\"gen\" href=\"http:\/\/sputniknews.com\/politics\/20141119\/1014901842.html\">19 novembre 2014<\/a><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&laquo;<em>US Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland will be in Ukraine later this week to join the US Vice President Joe Biden during his visit, the State Department said in a statement. \u00ab\u00a0November 20-23, Assistant Secretary Nuland will accompany Vice President Joe Biden on his visits to Kiev, Ukraine, and to Istanbul, Turkey,\u00a0\u00bb the statement issued Tuesday said. Biden&rsquo;s visit to Ukraine is scheduled for November 21, where the US official will meet with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko. Prior to his visit to Ukraine, Biden will travel to Morocco, then to Turkey. Nuland is also scheduled to be to Belgium and Latvia before arriving in Ukraine.<\/em>&raquo;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>On doit rapprocher cette nouvelle d&rsquo;une autre qui est de la m\u00eame eau, qui est une tr\u00e8s r\u00e9cente visite de trois parlementaires extr\u00e9mistes ukrainiens au s\u00e9nateur John McCain. Les parlementaires sont trois chefs d&rsquo;unit\u00e9s paramilitaires compos\u00e9es d&rsquo;activistes n\u00e9o-nazis du type <em>Pravy Sektor<\/em>, les bataillons <em>Donbass<\/em>, <em>Dnieper<\/em> et <em>Mirotvorets<\/em>, tandis que McCain est le grand inspirateur-agitateur belliciste du S\u00e9nat (bient\u00f4t \u00e0 majorit\u00e9 r\u00e9publicaine), particuli\u00e8rement int\u00e9ress\u00e9 par l&rsquo;acc\u00e9l\u00e9ration de la crise ukrainienne et la confrontation avec la Russie.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p><em>Interfax<\/em> du 18 novembre, repris par Russia Insider du m\u00eame <a class=\"gen\" href=\"http:\/\/russia-insider.com\/en\/military_politics_ukraine\/2014\/11\/12\/09-19-25pm\/three_ukrainian_battalion_commanders_leave_us_meet\">18 novembre 2014<\/a>, rapporte la nouvelle en commentant l&rsquo;\u00e9tat de sant\u00e9 mentale de McCain (&laquo;<em>McCain is a bit soft in the head these days, what with his age and all, so he probably just doesn&rsquo;t realize whom he is meeting with&#8230;<\/em>). Pr\u00e9cisions sur la visite :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&laquo;<em>The commanders of the Ukrainian volunteer battalions Semyon Semenchenko (battalion Donbas), Yuriy Bereza (Dnieper) and Andriy Teteruk (Mirotvorets), who have been elected to the Ukrainian parliament, have left for Washington to meet with Senator John McCain. \u00ab\u00a0The three parliamentarians have gone to Washington for one day to meet with Senator John McCain. They had a connection in Frankfurt-am Main. There was a gigantic line&hellip; Their innate politeness didn&rsquo;t allow battalion commanders Semenchenko, Bereza and Teteruk to jump the line,\u00a0\u00bb Semenchenko said on Facebook.<\/em>&raquo;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>Autre \u00e9l\u00e9ment \u00e0 consid\u00e9rer, un article de Patrick Buchanan sur son site, le <a class=\"gen\" href=\"http:\/\/buchanan.org\/blog\/vote-war-7153\">18 novembre 2014<\/a>, qui interpr\u00e8te un tr\u00e8s r\u00e9cent (15 novembre) \u00e9ditorial du Wall Street <em>Journal<\/em>, tr\u00e8s influent dans les milieux <em>neocons<\/em> et bellicistes de Washington, comme l&rsquo;annonce d&rsquo;un possible conflit en Ukraine auquel les USA seraient conduits \u00e0 participer.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&laquo;<em>&#8230; Back to the<\/em> [Wall Street] <em>Journal. On Nov. 15, its lead editorial declared that the great \u00ab\u00a0question before President Obama and Europe is how to stop the Napoleon of the Kremlin.\u00a0\u00bb Putin is Napoleon? Has the Journal lost it?<\/em> [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo;<em>The Journal hails the Senate Foreign Relations Committee 18-0 vote to arm the Ukrainians, and urges Congress to do the same. And what would be the result of U.S. heavy weapons arriving in Kiev? Would Putin recoil in shock and awe and scurry out of Crimea? Probably not, as the Journal itself concedes, \u00ab\u00a0In 15 years running Russia, Mr. Putin has never stood down.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo;<em>And if Putin, seeing U.S. weapons arriving in Kiev, sent in the Russian army to annex Luhansk and Donetsk, took Mariupol on the Black Sea coast, established a land bridge to Crimea, and then offered to negotiate, what would Kiev do? Even with U.S. weapons Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. What would we do? Accept defeat? Send U.S. advisers or troops into Ukraine? Launch strikes on Russian forces? Blockade Crimea? Are we really prepared for war with Russia, over Donetsk?<\/em>&raquo;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>Enfin, pour clore ce dossier, ces pr\u00e9cision du <em>Saker<\/em> US (le <a class=\"gen\" href=\"http:\/\/vineyardsaker.blogspot.be\/2014\/11\/the-key-sentence-in-putins-interview.html\">17 novembre 2014<\/a>) concernant un passage d&rsquo;une interview donn\u00e9e par Poutine \u00e0 la TV allemande ARD. Il s&rsquo;agit de mettre en \u00e9vidence l&rsquo;extr\u00eame r\u00e9solution du pr\u00e9sident Poutine de n&rsquo;abandonner en aucun cas la population russophone d&rsquo;Ukraine dans l&rsquo;hypoth\u00e8se d&rsquo;attaque et de \u00ab\u00a0nettoyage ethnique\u00a0\u00bb des forces de Kiev, particuli\u00e8rement des unit\u00e9s paramilitaires n\u00e9o-nazies.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&laquo;[&#8230;T]<em>he following quote is, I believe, crucial: \u00ab\u00a0Today there is fighting in eastern Ukraine. The Ukrainian central authorities have sent the armed forces there and they even use ballistic missiles. Does anybody speak about it? Not a single word. And what does it mean? What does it tell us? This points to the fact, that you want the Ukrainian central authorities to annihilate everyone there, all of their political foes and opponents. Is that what you want?<\/em> <strong><em>We certainly don&rsquo;t. And we won&rsquo;t let it happen.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo;<em>The Russian original sentence is&#8230;<\/em> [&#8230;] <em>I personally would translate this sentence \u00ab\u00a0You want that? We don&rsquo;t. And we will not allow this.\u00a0\u00bb You could also translate the last part as \u00ab\u00a0we will not permit this\u00a0\u00bb. This is not an expression of a preference or a much more vague \u00ab\u00a0we won&rsquo;t condone\u00a0\u00bb or \u00ab\u00a0we oppose\u00a0\u00bb. This is a very categorical statement which warns that Russia will proactively prevent such an outcome. As I said it many times here already: Russia will not let the Nazis overrun Novorussia.<\/em>&raquo;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>Tout cela doit \u00eatre lu et appr\u00e9ci\u00e9 sur un fond g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, venu de tr\u00e8s nombreuses sources, d&rsquo;hypoth\u00e8ses et de supputations sur une reprise des combats intensifs (des combats sporadiques ayant continu\u00e9 tout au long des derniers mois depuis l&rsquo;accord de Minsk). En g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, l&rsquo;hypoth\u00e8se est celle d&rsquo;une attaque massive des forces de Kiev, et si cela se faisait ce serait n\u00e9cessairement avec l&rsquo;accord sinon l&rsquo;encouragement des USA dans le chef de la fraction belliciste si joliment repr\u00e9sent\u00e9 par les voyageurs Biden-Nuland, et bien entendu avec un soutien effectif et op\u00e9rationnel des m\u00eames USA, notamment gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 un Congr\u00e8s chauff\u00e9 <a class=\"gen\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-ce_congr_s-l_est-il_le_commencement_de_la_fin__10_11_2014.html\">\u00e0 blanc<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>Mis en ligne le 19 novembre 2014 \u00e0 06H41<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Biden-Nuland, tambours de guerre \u00e0 Kiev Chaque fois que Nuland se rend \u00e0 Kiev (voir le 7 octobre 2014), l&rsquo;alarme retentit. Cette fois, l&rsquo;alarme est \u00e0 la fois double et plus pressante, puisqu&rsquo;il s&rsquo;agissait au d\u00e9part d&rsquo;une visite du vice-pr\u00e9sident Bide, \u00e0 laquelle Nuland s&rsquo;est jointe en derni\u00e8re minute. Biden-Nuland, deux incendiaires confirm\u00e9s, notamment et&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[1235,3335,3823,2797,4063,13246,5520,916,12664,3372,1296,3132],"class_list":["post-75611","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-breves-de-crise","tag-biden","tag-buchanan","tag-journal","tag-kiev","tag-mccain","tag-minsk","tag-nuland","tag-poutine","tag-saker","tag-street","tag-ukraine","tag-wall"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75611","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75611"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75611\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75611"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75611"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75611"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}