{"id":75645,"date":"2014-12-06T06:51:00","date_gmt":"2014-12-06T06:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2014\/12\/06\/lavrov-ils-parlent-en-bloc-et-ils-en-souffrent\/"},"modified":"2014-12-06T06:51:00","modified_gmt":"2014-12-06T06:51:00","slug":"lavrov-ils-parlent-en-bloc-et-ils-en-souffrent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2014\/12\/06\/lavrov-ils-parlent-en-bloc-et-ils-en-souffrent\/","title":{"rendered":"Lavrov : \u201cIls parlent en bloc, \u2013 et ils en souffrent\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h3 class=\"titrebloc\">Lavrov : Ils parlent en bloc,  et ils en souffrent<\/h3>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLe ministre des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res russe Sergei Lavrov a adopt\u00e9 un principe d&rsquo;attaque dans sa diplomatie,  la diplomatie ouverte,  et il s&rsquo;y tient ferme. On a vu \u00e0 plusieurs reprises en quoi consiste cette arme de destruction massive de la communication,  voir le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_diplomatie_ouverte_pour_sauver_la_diplomatie__29_10_2014.html\" class=\"gen\">29 octobre 2014<\/a>, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-la_diplomatie_ouverte_comme_arme_de_destruction_massive_20_11_2014.html\" class=\"gen\">20 novembre 2014<\/a>, le <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article-notre_guerre_fait_rage_24_11_2014.html\" class=\"gen\">24 novembre 2014<\/a>. Lavrov s&rsquo;y est \u00e0 nouveau adonn\u00e9 hier, \u00e0 la fin d&rsquo;un forum de l&rsquo;OSCE, en rapportant les confidences de nombre de ses coll\u00e8gues du bloc BAO, qui parlent en bloc justement (selon le mot de Lavrov), en s&rsquo;en tenant \u00e0 la <em>narrative<\/em> impos\u00e9 ; mais dans les conversation de couloir, en priv\u00e9, nombre d&rsquo;entre eux confient \u00e0 ce m\u00eame Lavrov ce qu&rsquo;ils pensent r\u00e9ellement de l&rsquo;Ukraine-Kiev, en m\u00eame temps qu&rsquo;ils confirment la n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 pour eux de parler selon les consignes du bloc.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t&#8230; Justement et c&rsquo;est humain, ils ont l&rsquo;air d&rsquo;appr\u00e9cier cela,  de prendre Lavrov comme confident, sinon comme une sorte de confesseur (j&rsquo;ai p\u00each\u00e9, mon p\u00e8re, je n&rsquo;ai pas dit ce que je pense parce que je suis oblig\u00e9 de suivre les consignes du Syst\u00e8me). Lors de la conf\u00e9rence de presse de cl\u00f4ture o\u00f9 un journaliste ukrainien (de Kiev, <em>of course<\/em>) lui demandait s&rsquo;il ne se sentait pas isol\u00e9, Lavrov, parfaitement d\u00e9tendu et rigolard, a r\u00e9pondu que ses coll\u00e8gues du bloc avaient tant tenu \u00e0 s&rsquo;entretenir avec lui qu&rsquo;il avait rat\u00e9 une partie importante des d\u00e9bats. (Dans <em>Russia Today<\/em>, le <a href=\"http:\/\/rt.com\/news\/211747-lavrov-osce-ukraine-diplomats\/\" class=\"gen\">5 d\u00e9cembre 2014<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00ab<em>The forum has been quite comfortable despite the bloc approach of his counterparts, Lavrov said at a press conference in Basel, Switzerland. I was above par<\/em> [<em>at the OSCE session<\/em>] <em>because I used to take part in the UN General Assembly sessions and other international activities, so I know very well what is usually being said in pursuance of bloc discipline&rsquo;. Therefore nothing surprised me, he told journalists.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Lavrov informed that on the sidelines of the session his foreign counterparts confessed that the Lustration Law&rsquo; (the vetting of corrupt officials) adopted in Ukraine is terrible, while blocking off the southeastern regions from the Ukrainian economic system is unreasonable, harmful and inhumane. But we agreed not to criticize<\/em> [<em>the actions of the Kiev authorities<\/em>]<em>, Lavrov quoted those diplomats as saying. He inquired then whether his counterparts share these thoughts with the Ukrainian authorities during their direct contacts, and the answer was inarticulate, so Lavrov believes they don&rsquo;t. That means that I do know what is going on for real and I believe that Ukrainian journalists<\/em> [<em>present at the press conference<\/em>] <em>do comprehend the essence of the lustration and other laws, which are adopted not to sooth the situation, not to reach a national consent, Lavrov said.  If I do understand the ongoing processes in Ukraine correctly, a national consent is not a task solely for the southeast, but for all of Ukraine, he said, stressing that Probably, one day this is going to come up.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\t\u00bb<em>Answering a question from a Ukrainian journalist about feeling isolated at the event, Lavrov said that he felt no isolation whatsoever. Everybody greeted me cordially as usual. We were telling jokes and discussing affairs being solved together, Lavrov said. Unfortunately, yesterday I spent only about an hour in the convention hall, because another seven hours I spent in bilateral meetings. There were 20 of them altogether. That&rsquo;s why I didn&rsquo;t feel isolated. Rather I felt excessively communicated to, he said.<\/em>\u00bb<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>\tLa diplomatie ouverte de Lavrov marche donc parfaitement, au-del\u00e0 des esp\u00e9rances. Elle suscite m\u00eame des interventions de ses coll\u00e8gues du bloc BAO qui doivent commencer \u00e0 trouver plaisant d&rsquo;avoir ainsi un confident-confesseur sur lequel se d\u00e9charger du poids de l&rsquo;obligation d&rsquo;appliquer les consignes terroristes de la <em>narrative<\/em>. C&rsquo;est une excellente source d&rsquo;information pour Lavrov, qui peut ainsi identifier les maillons faibles du bloc ; c&rsquo;est aussi une bonne m\u00e9thode pour provoquer quelque discorde au sein du bloc o\u00f9 les divers flics de la terrorisation de communication (chacun l&rsquo;est plus ou moins \u00e0 tour de r\u00f4le, sous la pression du Syst\u00e8me) vont \u00eatre confront\u00e9s \u00e0 de plus en plus de dissidents soucieux de soulager leurs consciences,  jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 eux-m\u00eames chercher \u00e0 soulager leurs propres consciences, bien entendu&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p><p>\tMis en ligne le 6 d\u00e9cembre 2014 \u00e0 06H20<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lavrov : Ils parlent en bloc, et ils en souffrent Le ministre des affaires \u00e9trang\u00e8res russe Sergei Lavrov a adopt\u00e9 un principe d&rsquo;attaque dans sa diplomatie, la diplomatie ouverte, et il s&rsquo;y tient ferme. On a vu \u00e0 plusieurs reprises en quoi consiste cette arme de destruction massive de la communication, voir le 29 octobre&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[6039,16218,16217,2628,2662,2830,6194,7708,7503],"class_list":["post-75645","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-breves-de-crise","tag-bloc","tag-confesseur","tag-confident","tag-diplomatie","tag-en","tag-lavrov","tag-osce","tag-ouverte","tag-parler"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75645","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=75645"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/75645\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=75645"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=75645"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=75645"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}