{"id":76301,"date":"2015-12-17T10:35:25","date_gmt":"2015-12-17T10:35:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2015\/12\/17\/la-coalition-suite-choisissez-phg-plutot-que-larabie\/"},"modified":"2015-12-17T10:35:25","modified_gmt":"2015-12-17T10:35:25","slug":"la-coalition-suite-choisissez-phg-plutot-que-larabie","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2015\/12\/17\/la-coalition-suite-choisissez-phg-plutot-que-larabie\/","title":{"rendered":"La coalition (suite)\u00a0: choisissez PhG plut\u00f4t que l&rsquo;Arabie"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><h2 class=\"titleset_b.deepblue\" style=\"color:#0f3955; font-size:1.65em; font-variant:small-caps\">La coalition (suite) : choisissez PhG plut\u00f4t que l&rsquo;Arabie<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>S&rsquo;il faut comparer et choisir entre la proposition de PhG (&laquo; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dedefensa.org\/article\/on-fait-coalition-dimanche-a-la-maison-vous-venez\">On fait coalition dimanche \u00e0 la maison, vous venez ?<\/a> &raquo;) et celle d&rsquo;ailleurs affirm\u00e9e comme \u00e9tant d\u00e9j\u00e0 r\u00e9alis\u00e9e de l&rsquo;Arabie des mille-et-un Princes, le conseil de bon sens serait de choisir la premi\u00e8re. D\u00e9j\u00e0, on a une id\u00e9e en observant les premi\u00e8res r\u00e9actions de ceux qui ont \u00e9t\u00e9 embrigad\u00e9s d&rsquo;office dans la riche id\u00e9e des riches mille-et-un princes ; cela va du \u00ab\u00a0pas au courant\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 celle de \u00ab\u00a0Qu\u00e9sako ?\u00a0\u00bb et de \u00ab\u00a0pas int\u00e9res\u00e9 du tout\u00a0\u00bb, notammen en Indon\u00e9sie et au Pakistan. (En n&rsquo;oubliant pas, comme l&rsquo;avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 not\u00e9 l&rsquo;un de nos lecteurs, que le Liban a d\u00e9j\u00e0, le premier, annonc\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0n&rsquo;\u00eatre pas au courant\u00a0\u00bb malgr\u00e9 que son nom soit dans la liste.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>Reuters donne <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/us-saudi-security-idUSKBN0TZ1H520151216\">une int\u00e9ressante synth\u00e8se<\/a>, tr\u00e8s instructive, ce 16 d\u00e9cembre, sur les diverses r\u00e9actions qui ont suivi l&rsquo;annonce solennelle par le jeune et dynamique Prince h\u00e9ritier de la Couronne (ou adjoint-au-Roi, on ne sait) et ministre de la d\u00e9fense Mohammed ben Salman. Confusion compl\u00e8te, mines stup\u00e9faites, peut-\u00eatre m\u00eame index tourbillonnant fix\u00e9 sur la temps, etc. Il n&rsquo;est pas certain que cette derni\u00e8re initiative de ben Salman (la guerre contre le Y\u00e9men est aussi une de ses id\u00e9es), qui prend eau de toutes parts et transforme la politique pseudo-agressive du Royaume en une clownerie \u00e0-la-<em>The-Donald<\/em>-en-campagne, renforce \u00e0 terme assez rapide son statut au sein des autres mille-et-un Princes ; cela devrait acc\u00e9l\u00e9rer les intrigues de couloir dans les mille-et-un palais des Princes, rendant encore plus fragile l&rsquo;actuelle royale \u00e9quipe au pouvoir.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>On notera que la seule autorit\u00e9 \u00e0 accueillir avec enthousiasme la nouvelle est le clerg\u00e9 ultra sunnite\/wallabies, ce qui renforce l&rsquo;id\u00e9e d&rsquo;une \u00ab\u00a0ruse\u00a0\u00bb pour rassembler une coalition anti-chiite. A Moscou, Lavrov a dit sa col\u00e8re \u00e0 Kerry que la Russie n&rsquo;ait appris que par les journaux la formation de cette coalition, pour  s&rsquo;entendre r\u00e9pondre, sur un air penaud, \u00ab\u00a0Mais moi non plus, Sergei, je ne sais pas tr\u00e8s bien ce qui se passe, je n&rsquo;ai pas \u00e9t\u00e9 averti\u00a0\u00bb. (Ce qui a \u00e9t\u00e9 exprim\u00e9 par le Secr\u00e9taire \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense Ashton Carter d&rsquo;une fa\u00e7on plus martiale : &laquo; <em>\u00ab\u00a0We look forward to learning more about what Saudi Arabia has in mind in terms of this coalition,\u00a0\u00bb U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on Tuesday<\/em>. &raquo;) Reuters essaie de faire son travail en traitant s\u00e9rieusement cette superbe bouffonnerie grotesque, ou grotesquerie bouffonne superbement illustrative de l&rsquo;esprit du temps et de sa devise fameuse &ndash; \u00ab\u00a0Plus vous avez de $milliards, plus compl\u00e8tement vous d\u00e9connez\u00a0\u00bb. Voici donc ce que l&rsquo;agence nous dit cette \u00e9trange coalition dont nombre de membres ne semblent pas avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 avertis, ni particuli\u00e8rement enthousiastes \u00e0 l&rsquo;id\u00e9e&#8230;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&laquo; <em>Some key members of the 34-nation anti-Islamic State coalition announced by Saudi Arabia have a fundamental question: just what is it? Indonesia did not know it was going to be a military alliance, which it does not want to join. A senior Pakistani lawmaker only learned the news from a Reuters reporter<\/em>. [&#8230;] <em>Comments from several of the countries that signed up to the initiative appeared to reveal a lack of preparation by Riyadh, which approached partners with an invitation to join a coordination centre but then announced a military alliance. When Saudi Arabia&rsquo;s Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman announced the new group at a sudden midnight press conference, he called it an \u00ab\u00a0Islamic military coalition\u00a0\u00bb, a description that appeared to surprise some of the governments involved.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo; <em>Armanatha Nasir, Foreign Ministry spokesman for Indonesia, said the Saudi foreign minister had approached Jakarta twice in the past few days to ask it to join a \u00ab\u00a0centre to coordinate against extremism and terrorism\u00a0\u00bb. However, \u00ab\u00a0what Saudi Arabia has announced is a military alliance, &#8230; It is thus important for Indonesia to first have details before deciding to support it,\u00a0\u00bb he said. Jakarta had not yet decided whether to join the group. Chief Security Minister Luhut Pandjaitan said later: \u00ab\u00a0We don&rsquo;t want to join a military alliance.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo; <em>Of the 34 countries Riyadh said had signed up for its coalition, several of those contacted by Reuters appeared to have different conceptions of what it would actually entail, while some said they had not been officially notified. Pakistani Senator Sehar Kamran, who is on the Senate defence committee and lived in Saudi Arabia for many years, said a phone call from Reuters was the first she had heard of the alliance. \u00ab\u00a0I haven&rsquo;t seen the news yet,\u00a0\u00bb she said. Asked if this had been debated in the Senate or National Assembly, she said: \u00ab\u00a0No. Not yet.\u00a0\u00bb The country&rsquo;s Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry was quoted in the daily newspaper Dawn as saying he had been surprised to read of Islamabad&rsquo;s inclusion and was seeking details from Riyadh<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo; <em>That confused approach to the project may undermine its goal, not only of creating an effective group to fight militancy, but of assuaging Western fears that Muslim countries are indifferent to the threat posed by Islamic State. In recent weeks, media and politicians in Western countries have complained about what they see as Saudi Arabia&rsquo;s failure to match their own focus on destroying Islamic State militarily or to combat its militant Islamist ideology<\/em>. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo; <em>In Saudi Arabia, the coalition proposal was quickly endorsed by the Council of Senior Scholars, the grouping of top clerics in the conservative Islamic kingdom, which issued a statement urging all other Muslim states to join the grouping. Jubeir said the anti-terrorism group would not only include a military, security and intelligence track, but an ideological one as well. Whether more statements by the Wahhabi clergy denouncing militancy will allay Western criticism, though, is doubtful<\/em>. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>&raquo; <em>One driving force of support for Islamic State has been a rise in sectarian anger, much of it driven by the proxy wars emerging from a political struggle between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shi&rsquo;ite Iran. In that context, the absence from Riyadh&rsquo;s coalition of Iran and its allies Iraq and Syria seemed to suggest that it may hope eventually to use its Muslim coalition against terrorism as a Sunni bloc that could isolate Tehran&rsquo;s Arab Shi&rsquo;ite proxies<\/em>. [&#8230;] <em>Whether such a goal would be shared by most of Riyadh&rsquo;s new partners in its much vaunted coalition, a group that includes countries which have amicable ties with Iran, appears unlikely.<\/em> &raquo;<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><p>Mis en ligne le 17 d\u00e9cembre 2015 \u00e0 10H34<\/p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>La coalition (suite) : choisissez PhG plut\u00f4t que l&rsquo;Arabie S&rsquo;il faut comparer et choisir entre la proposition de PhG (&laquo; On fait coalition dimanche \u00e0 la maison, vous venez ? &raquo;) et celle d&rsquo;ailleurs affirm\u00e9e comme \u00e9tant d\u00e9j\u00e0 r\u00e9alis\u00e9e de l&rsquo;Arabie des mille-et-un Princes, le conseil de bon sens serait de choisir la premi\u00e8re. D\u00e9j\u00e0,&hellip;&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"neve_meta_sidebar":"","neve_meta_container":"","neve_meta_enable_content_width":"","neve_meta_content_width":0,"neve_meta_title_alignment":"","neve_meta_author_avatar":"","neve_post_elements_order":"","neve_meta_disable_header":"","neve_meta_disable_footer":"","neve_meta_disable_title":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[3259,8150,3265,3643,5253,855,5611,3379,7610,13131],"class_list":["post-76301","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-breves-de-crise","tag-arabie","tag-ashton","tag-ben","tag-carter","tag-coalition","tag-kerry","tag-liban","tag-pakistan","tag-prince","tag-salman"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76301","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=76301"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/76301\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=76301"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=76301"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=76301"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}