{"id":76624,"date":"2016-06-15T11:35:04","date_gmt":"2016-06-15T11:35:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2016\/06\/15\/chris-hedges-chez-rt\/"},"modified":"2016-06-15T11:35:04","modified_gmt":"2016-06-15T11:35:04","slug":"chris-hedges-chez-rt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/new.dedefensa.org\/index.php\/2016\/06\/15\/chris-hedges-chez-rt\/","title":{"rendered":"Chris Hedges chez RT"},"content":{"rendered":"

Chris Hedges chez RT<\/h2>\n<\/p>\n

Le 11 juin, RT a diffus\u00e9 la premi\u00e8re \u00e9mission de On Contact<\/em>, avec comme invit\u00e9 le vieux Tariq Ali<\/a>, l’un des plus anciens parmi les \u00ab\u00a0dissidents\u00a0\u00bb fameux, l’homme de toutes les \u00ab\u00a0nouvelles gauche\u00a0\u00bb et de tous les combats anticapitalistes depuis les ann\u00e9es 1960. Tariq Ali n’a pas chang\u00e9 et, certes, son jugement en vaut beaucoup, beaucoup d’autres. En face de lui, pour l’interroger, surprise : Chris Hedges, dont il nous est d\u00e9j\u00e0 arriv\u00e9 de parler<\/a> d’une fa\u00e7on pr\u00e9cise. Il s’agit d’une autre gloire de la \u00ab\u00a0gauche antiSyst\u00e8me\u00a0\u00bb, certainement plus jeune qu’Ali, de la g\u00e9n\u00e9ration d’apr\u00e8s, et avec un parcours fort diff\u00e9rent puisque venu du New York Times<\/em> et harnach\u00e9 d’un prix Pulitzer d\u00e9cern\u00e9 en 2002 \u00e0 l’\u00e9quipe d’enqu\u00eateurs sur le terrorisme qu’il dirigeait alors. Ce Bloc-Notes<\/em>, une fois n’est pas coutume, s’int\u00e9resse autant \u00e0 l’intervieweur qu’\u00e0 l’interview\u00e9.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

En effet, Chris Hedges chez RT, c’est un \u00e9v\u00e9nement<\/strong>. Hedges est un homme de la vraie \u00ab\u00a0gauche dissidente\u00a0\u00bb US, celle qui se bat avec une belle ardeur contre le Syst\u00e8me mais qui aime \u00e9galement \u00e0 garder ses distances de certains centres certes antiSyst\u00e8me qui pourraient \u00e9galement sembler un peu l\u00e9ger ou un peu douteux.. (Cette observation pour renvoyer aux \u00e2mes qui assurent une \u00ab\u00a0vigilance\u00a0\u00bb tr\u00e8s pointilleuses sur le respect des \u00ab\u00a0valeurs\u00a0\u00bb, dont on ne sait plus quel but elle [cette \u00ab\u00a0vigilance\u00a0\u00bb] poursuit vraiment, et dont le Syst\u00e8me, qui sait ce qu’il veut lui, a fait une de ses armes secr\u00e8tes les plus efficaces pour diviser ses adversaires.) Nous parlons ici de la \u00ab\u00a0gauche dissidente\u00a0\u00bb qui se bat avec cette \u00ab\u00a0belle ardeur\u00a0\u00bb mais qui n’a gu\u00e8re, sinon aucune chance de gagner, et qui a parfois l’air de se satisfaire de cette absence de perspective pour pouvoir conserver intactes et vierges toutes ses illusions. (Un peu comme, in illo tempore<\/em>, l’on soup\u00e7onna toujours Jean-Marie Le Pen de souhaiter secr\u00e8tement et ardemment \u00e0 n’avoir jamais \u00e0 exercer le pouvoir.) Au reste, dans la premi\u00e8re \u00e9mission de On Contact<\/em>, le vieux Tariq Ali couvert de plaies et de bosses n’a pas eu l’air de d\u00e9mentir ce statut-l\u00e0 de cette ardente \u00ab\u00a0gauche dissidente\u00a0\u00bb, tandis qu’auparavant Hedges, expliquant sa venue \u00e0 RT, avait montr\u00e9 qu’il esp\u00e9rait bien que sa \u00ab\u00a0belle ardeur\u00a0\u00bb finirait par donner de vrais r\u00e9sultats.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

• C’est le 2 juin<\/a> que RT annon\u00e7ait l’engagement de Chris Hedges comme producteur et \u00e9diteur de l’\u00e9mission, sp\u00e9cialement cr\u00e9\u00e9e pour lui, On Line.<\/em> La r\u00e9dactrice en chef de RT, Margarita Simonian, a bien entendu salu\u00e9 cette recrue d’une qualit\u00e9 journalistique exceptionnelle, et qui poursuit une tendance maintenant bien affirm\u00e9e où RT vient prendre au journalisme US certaines de ses \u00ab\u00a0vedettes\u00a0\u00bb \u00e0 l’esprit trop ind\u00e9pendant pour poursuivre dans la presse-Syst\u00e8me, ou simplement fatigu\u00e9s de la routine impos\u00e9e par cette presse. (RT-America<\/em> compte d\u00e9j\u00e0 des gens comme Ed Schultz [News with Ed<\/em>], Larry King [Politicking<\/em>] et [Larry King Now<\/em>], Tyrel Ventura, Tabetha Wallace et Sean Stone [Watching the Hawks<\/em>], etc.)… Voici donc ce que dit Heges de son engagement chez RT :<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

« \u00ab\u00a0The absence of dissident voices from the airwaves, including on public broadcasting that was originally designed to allow those not beholden to the power elites to be heard, has turned the media landscape in the United States into an echo chamber for the powerful and the wealthy,\u00a0\u00bb ‘On Contact’ will feature conversations with activists, intellectuals and revolutionaries. As Hedges puts it, his show \u00ab\u00a0will examine the effects of the endless wars, mounting inequality and the steady erosion of our civil liberties, and will give voice to those who offer radical solutions, including those proposed by anti-capitalists, and who have been shut out of the national debate by a corporatized press.\u00a0\u00bb The constriction of acceptable opinion and debate has eroded the integrity of the press and contributed to the decay of our democracy,\u00a0\u00bb Hedges said. \u00ab\u00a0This program will be a program where dissident voices will not only be amplified, but celebrated.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

» \u00ab\u00a0The media landscape in the United States has narrowed the acceptable range of opinion, or been trivialized, to make it little more than a platform for the elites or part of the vast system of entertainment,\u00a0\u00bb Hedges said. \u00ab\u00a0There are few places <\/em><\/em> RT is one <\/em><\/em> where critics of corporate capitalism and the American empire can find a voice,\u00a0\u00bb he continued. \u00ab\u00a0These voices are vital if we are to find our way back to a democracy. It is for this reason I am doing On Contact with RT.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> »<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

• La rencontre de Hedges avec Ali, pour la premi\u00e8re \u00e9mission, a eu lieu le 12 juin<\/a>. La rencontre est du plus haut int\u00e9r\u00eat et embrasse la situation actuelle de l’hypercapitalisme globalis\u00e9 et de ce que nous nommons l'\u00a0\u00bbinsurrection antiSyst\u00e8me\u00a0\u00bb, ou la tentative, ou l’\u00e9bauche d'\u00a0\u00bbinsurrection antiSyst\u00e8me\u00a0\u00bb. Tariq Ali croit \u00e0 l’effondrement de l’hypercapitalisme, simplement par la stupidit\u00e9 et la rapacit\u00e9 \u00e0 cour terme de ceux qui sont \u00e0 des postes de direction. Il reconnaît ais\u00e9ment que la gauche antiSyst\u00e8me est beaucoup plus faible que la droite antiSyst\u00e8me et, pour s’arr\u00eater \u00e0 un cas particuli\u00e8rement int\u00e9ressant, r\u00e9sume bien une certaine ambigu\u00eft\u00e9 d’une vision r\u00e9aliste dans la \u00ab\u00a0gauche dissidente\u00a0\u00bb, face au ph\u00e9nom\u00e8ne populiste que repr\u00e9sente Donald Trump.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

« The banks behind politicians in the western world \u00ab\u00a0have allowed the poor to rot,\u00a0\u00bb and now the elites in those countries, especially the US, are facing a revolt, journalist and author Tariq Ali told RT America’s Chris Hedges in an exclusive interview. \u00ab\u00a0The elites who have run the United States and western Europe have proven incapable of offering even the smallest palliatives to their populations. They have allowed the poor to rot <\/em><\/em> regardless of skin color <\/em><\/em> and grow,\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> Ali said<\/em>. \u00ab\u00a0And so what we have is a protest against this center elite, which I call the extreme center because whether it’s social democratic or conservative, they unite to crush.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

» Presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump has become a perfect example of this protest against the extreme center, he tells Hedges. \u00ab\u00a0They’ve found in Trump someone who airs their most crazed fantasies at the same time who attacks the banks, at the same time attacks these new treaties which are being carried through and promises some palliatives to the poorest section of the white working class,\u00a0\u00bb Ali said.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

» The right and the far right are growing around the world, while the left has been weak. That is part of the reason that Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders wasn’t able to succeed, even though he also offers an independent voice to the working class. \u00ab\u00a0I don’t think that there’s anything on the radical left at the moment <\/em><\/em> of course, these things are volatile, things can happen,\u00a0\u00bb he said. Ali cited an appeal that actress Rosario Dawson made to Sanders supporters as to why Trump is so popular at a widely attended rally in New York City at the end of March<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

» Both Hedges and him think that capitalism is heading towards a collapse and the banks and political elites are doing everything they can to stop it. An example of what they are willing to do to keep the status quo is what happened in the European Union when Greece was on the brink of default. \u00ab\u00a0Greece is kind of the perfect case study of the myopic thinking on the part of international elites, where they are squeezing everything they can out of this country, knowing full well that it’s ultimately not sustainable,\u00a0\u00bb Hedges said in his first episode of ‘On Contact’ on RT America. \u00ab\u00a0A lot of people in Greece are suffering, and a lot more are going to suffer.\u00a0\u00bb \u00ab\u00a0They will, yeah,\u00a0\u00bb Ali responded, adding that poor people in Greece were already suffering. \u00ab\u00a0The figures coming out of Greece were horrific: malnutrition in Greece, people dying for lack of food, people using barter to survive, pensions going down and down and down <\/em><\/em> in a poor country,\u00a0\u00bb Ali said. \u00ab\u00a0At the same time as the ship owners, a plutocracy which has owned that country, carries on <\/em><\/em> there’s no problems, as far as they’re concerned at all. They don’t pay taxes, they register their ship somewhere else, and even when they don’t, they don’t think it’s their duty.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

» Hedges asked if Greece was destroyed to make an example of it, comparable to what then Secretary of State Henry Kissinger did to Chile and Salvador Allende during the Cold War: \u00ab\u00a0The banking system has to destroy Greece … to send a message to countries like Portugal, Spain, Ireland, whose economy is a mess, which is don’t try this,\u00a0\u00bb the RT America host said. Ali agreed with the analogy. \u00ab\u00a0This was a message to other countries where there is no armed struggle, no guerrilla warfare: ‘Don’t try coming to power like this and nationalizing industries and rapping us on the knuckles [because] this is how we’ll deal with you’,\u00a0\u00bb he said. \u00ab\u00a0That is what was done to Greece by the European Union and, you know, one has to be honest here… it’s had its effect. It’s pushed people back. The Spanish radical group Podemos stepped backwards. And so it’s had its effect.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p>\n

» The journalist and author warned that the collapse is coming because the elite refuses to plan for the future. \u00ab\u00a0They do know that collapse is coming, and they’re trying to make sure that it doesn’t affect them. So the German banks are not prepared to allow the politicians to take any risks by bailing out Greece or bailing out other countries in trouble,\u00a0\u00bb Ali said. \u00ab\u00a0It was one thing bailing themselves out, the banks and the hedge fund system via the banks, but anything else, they say, is unacceptable because it will bring the collapse closer and our interest is to defend the banking system. It’s short-sighted, and they live for today as we know; capitalism and capitalists, by and large, don’t think of the long-term.\u00a0\u00bb<\/em> »<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

L’int\u00e9r\u00eat de l’intervention de Tareq Ali est \u00e9vident, et elle tient aussi bien \u00e0 son entente avec Chris Hedges, \u00e0 la compr\u00e9hension de ce dernier des probl\u00e8mes abord\u00e9s, \u00e0 deux exp\u00e9riences assez proches, etc., ce qui donne une \u00e9mission de haute valeur, de grande audience (\u00e0 l’instar d’un grand r\u00e9seau t\u00e9l\u00e9vis\u00e9 de la presse-Syst\u00e8me) pour des hommes qui ont certes une grande notori\u00e9t\u00e9 de \u00ab\u00a0dissidents\u00a0\u00bb mais qui ne se sont jamais compl\u00e8tement affirm\u00e9s sur les grands r\u00e9seaux de grande audience, – et pour cause, parce qu’ils n’y \u00e9taient rarement invit\u00e9s, parce qu’ils n’y avaient pas vraiment leur place. Cette premi\u00e8re \u00e9mission de On Contact<\/em> est donc assez symbolique, et il n’y a \u00e9videmment nulle surprise que RT en soit le protagoniste. (On observera que le r\u00e9seau RT ne s’embarrasse pas trop des \u00e9tiquettes des commentateurs politiques US qu’elle incorpore dans son \u00e9quipe, sinon en recherchant un caract\u00e8re de \u00ab\u00a0dissidence\u00a0\u00bb. Gauche ou droite, mais sans doute plus souvent gauche que droite, la v\u00e9ritable r\u00e9f\u00e9rence est d’utiliser des personnalit\u00e9s qui n’ont jamais \u00e9t\u00e9 sur les grands r\u00e9seaux US ou qui en sont sortis pour des r\u00e9seaux qui ont souvent \u00e0 voir avec le climat de contrainte-Syst\u00e8me qui y r\u00e8gne.)<\/p>\n<\/p>\n

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Ainsi RT est-il en train de prendre une place grandissante (on le savait) mais surtout in\u00e9dite dans les grands r\u00e9seaux US<\/strong>. Il fait monter au premier rang, dans des grandes \u00e9missions destin\u00e9es \u00e0 devenir des classiques du monde m\u00e9diatique, des personnalit\u00e9s qui \u00e9taient absentes des structures de ces \u00e9missions. Il participe ainsi \u00e0 une recomposition fondamentale quoique extr\u00eamement discr\u00e8te et sur le terme au moins moyen, de la situation m\u00e9diatique dans le monde du syst\u00e8me de la communication<\/strong>, en assurant en quelque sorte un r\u00f4le d’avant-garde vers une situation où la liquidation de l’actuelle presse-Syst\u00e8me sera consomm\u00e9e<\/strong>. Par sa nature tr\u00e8s particuli\u00e8re de grand r\u00e9seau d’une puissance qui est conduite par les circonstances \u00e0 occuper une position d’antiSyst\u00e8me, RT est amen\u00e9 \u00e0 installer dans ses programmes des intervenants antiSyst\u00e8me (\u00ab\u00a0dissidents\u00a0\u00bb aux USA) dans une position de maîtrise qui est d’habitude celle de journalistes-Syst\u00e8me, et d\u00e9sormais de journalistes-Syst\u00e8me assumant cette t\u00e2che d’une fa\u00e7on agressive et consciente. (RT \u00ab\u00a0recycle\u00a0\u00bb \u00e9galement des \u00ab\u00a0gloires\u00a0\u00bb de la communication-Syst\u00e8me qui ont eu du mal \u00e0 s’int\u00e9grer dans les obligations d’activisme du Syst\u00e8me, et qui se retrouve ainsi, eux aussi et cette fois sans v\u00e9ritable conscience de la chose, des antiSyst\u00e8me.) C’est bien entendu aux USA, où son effort est maximal, que RT r\u00e9ussit ce d\u00e9veloppement qui constitue une nouvelle sorte d'\u00a0\u00bbentrisme\u00a0\u00bb dans les structures fondamentales du Syst\u00e8me<\/strong>. On observera avec attention que notre propos ne concerne pas ici des opinions diverses sur des probl\u00e8mes ponctuels, mais bien la perception d’un statut d’antiSyst\u00e8me install\u00e9 dans une structure qui s’est install\u00e9e dans le Syst\u00e8me sans que le Syst\u00e8me ne puisse rien contre elle. RT faut partie du monde de la communication-Syst\u00e8me US, malgr\u00e9 les r\u00e9sistances, les attaques, les diffamations, et il y installe des personnalit\u00e9s-antiSyst\u00e8me \u00e0 des places de magist\u00e8re. C’est une performance remarquable.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/p>\n

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